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Cell Tracking on the Rise

An anonymous reader writes "ZDNet is reporting that with the recent advances in cell phone tracking tech more and more companies are using it to keep track of their employee's movements. From the article: 'The gains, say the converted, are many, ranging from knowing whether workers have been "held up" in the pub rather than in a traffic jam, to being able to quickly locate staff and reroute them if necessary. Not everybody is happy about being monitored, however, and civil rights group Liberty says the growth of tracking raises data privacy concerns.'"

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  1. Read between the lines by DavidHOzAu · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read the article, but when reading between the lines I noticed that someone could track your cell phone without any sort technological upgrade on your phone. This means that the tracking technology is on the telco's side, and if they are now offering it as a reliable service to the public, it means that it has been around for a while... sounds like old technology to me. I guess all this means is that now businesses can do what the government has been doing for years. Face it guys, our privacy has been invade-able for a while, and there is little that we (the concerned public) can do about it.

    oblig.: "In Russia, you can always find a Cell Phone. In Soviet Britain, Cell Phone finds YOU!"

    1. Re:Read between the lines by ELProphet · · Score: 3, Informative

      As far as I can tell from some presentations I've seen and articles I've read, the technology goes something like this:

      When you enter the range of a cell tower, your phone sends it's number and 4 digit pin number. These are authenticated, and assuming everything works right, the cell tower updates your providers network that this tower can reach you. When someone calls you then, the telco looks up which cell tower(s) you are near, and tells them to connect with your phone. It does so, and everything is fine great and dandy, and you go on to assure your wife that you'll pick up the kids on the way home.

      The tracking comes from triangulation of which tower(s) can reach you, and the strength of the signal for the calls you make. I live in a city of approx. 100,000 (Billings, Montana), and as far as I know, there are 7 100 meter+ cell towers. These are the ones that require a special permit in our (and from what I understand most) zoning laws.

      From what I've been able to get from a buddy of mine that works for the major telco in Billings (sorry, not naming names. I don't know how sensitive this is.), their towers are able to determine how strong your signal is WHEN YOU ARE ON A CALL. The number of bars you see on your cell phone are determined by your phone, and are not communicated directly with the telco until you place/recieve a call.

      My buddy claims that with just the seven towers, they can tell to within 3 blocks of where you are. When you are actively engaged in a call, that goes down to somewhere between 1/2 and 2 blocks, depending on where you are, etc. etc. etc.

      Again, this information is entirely second to third hand, should be taken with a grain of salt. Still, I think this is very plausible.

      As for the dangers, that rest entirely on how people use the knowledge.

  2. Privacy by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 4, Informative

    Turning off the cell phone is not enough not to be traced.
    When you turn the cell phone off (or it is shutting down because of low battery), it nicely says the network is being shut down. So your evil tracer would know what you did.
    It is a much better solution to unplug the battery. The cell phone will suddenly disappear from the network as if you were passing through an uncovered area.
    And none could say where you are and why they don't know.
    The only cons are about the loss of some cell phone data (like the last calls details and so on). But we can afford such a loss for the sake of privacy, can't we?

    --
    Maybe Computers will never be as intelligent as Humans.
    For sure they won't ever become so stupid. [VR-1988]
  3. Tracking cell phones by Confused · · Score: 3, Informative

    The mobile provider knows which cell your phone had contacted last. If the last contact is a little old, your cell phone can be paged to find it. This paging is always done when there's a call for you, but it can be done at any time. Usally the cell phone networks page the mobile phones a few times a day on their own. This alone gives a rough estimate where your cell phone is located.

    If more precision is necessary, there are applications that request from your mobile the signal strenght of the available cells and triangulate from this data a better location. Depending on how the network is laid out, this can give very good results.

    So if you want to have a peaceful time in the pub, best just take the battery out of your phone. This way it drops out of the network without signing off and you can always blame no reception. As an alternative, select nice pubs in cellars with no coverage.

    This applies to GSM and UMTS networks. I have no idea if it also works that way with those weird american networks.

    1. Re:Tracking cell phones by Jasin+Natael · · Score: 2, Informative

      It applies to networks in the US, to an extent. But the tech is new, at least here. Carriers had to make all manner of upgrades to comply with emergency/911 legislation, and now they're trying to commercialize it.

      In the US, a single cell of coverage might be (and usually is) up to 8-10 km in diameter. Previously, there was no way to get any kind of accuracy. So a lot of phones are equipped with GPS, so they can be 'pinged'. Even the ones that aren't GPS-enabled have been given signal strength feedback so that the tower can estimate how far away the phone is, and the towers have been fitted with specialized antenna arrays to deduce direction. But a lot of times, the GPS is necessary because there will only be 1 tower and therefore very low accuracy.

      These upgrades have been 'in-process' here for about 6-7 years. That they have penetrated to the point of commercial viability is both good and bad. Now I can expect 911 dispatch to find me, but ...

      Jasin Natael
      --
      True science means that when you re-evaluate the evidence, you re-evaluate your faith.
  4. Re:Easy solution by Keruo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tracking a cell phone doesn't rely on sim card.
    Each cell phone has unique vendor identification code called IMEI, which is used to identify the phone on cell networks.
    Think MAC address, but it's harder to fake, and it's visible to entire network instead one lan segment.
    Turning off your phone does block the trace as long as you move from the point where you turned the phone off.
    Device-id query for powered off phone returns the last connected cell tower as phone location when the device itself cannot be reached from service area.
    Atleast when we're talking about GSM networks

    --
    There are no atheists when recovering from tape backup.
  5. Re:Unions For High-Skill Workers by JasonEngel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unions are NOT the answer. Individual people standing up for themselves IS the answer, particularly if as many people as possible do so. I have worked as a unionized employee just once, and it was not a pleasant experience. The union limited what I could do on the job, took my hard-earned money (because the company agreed to only hire union workers, who had to pay dues), yet never did anything for me.

    Unions are NOT the answer. Indvidual people working together to assert their rights and make necessary changes is fine, but unions as they exist today are NOT ok in my book.

  6. 911 in Ontario.... by cttforsale · · Score: 2, Informative

    All cell calls to 911 are located in this manner.

  7. Re:You all *do* realize in the fictional Star Trek by sjames · · Score: 2, Informative

    And yet this is the world many of you fantasize about living in. Every week they fight for and babble on and on about the inalienable rights of aliens. How could anyone not believe they would use the ship's monitoring cameras to see each other's poker hands and use the Holodeck for Orion slave-girl porn reenactments?

    In that same FICTIONAL UNIVERSE, employers and government don't abuse the massive database. The communicators for tracking are onlt worn by military personel, and only (necessarily) on duty. Apparently, the location function only works when abord the Enterprise. Apparently, having a genetic trait that will/could lead to a disease requiring expensive treatment doesn't get you banned from free medical care.

    Unfortunatly, those conditions are not present today. The ability of a society to pinpoint any citizen's location and to know their exact medical condition carry great responsabilities. Our 'leaders' today are far too irresponsable to be trusted with any it.