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20th Century Warmest In 1200 Years

gcranston writes "Research from the University of East Anglia in Norwich, U.K. shows that the 20th century was the warmest for the northern hemisphere since approximately 800AD. Historical climate data were calculated from weather 'proxies' such as tree rings, ice cores, and seashells from Europe, Asia, and North America, and attempted to address the shortcomings of earlier studies. The findings support the argument for global warming as a result of human interference rather than natural climate change."

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  1. Food for thought by MyNymWasTaken · · Score: 5, Informative

    There has been a 19.4% increase in the mean annual concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere from 1959 to 2004.

    During the 1959-2002 period, the total CO2 emissions equaled ~220 gigatons; ~14% of the atmospheric CO2 in 1959.

    In 2002, Humanity pumped 7 gigatons (6975 megatons) of CO2 into the atmosphere. That is almost 4 times the emissions from 50 years ago (1952: 1795 megatons), and is more than was released from 1751-1886 (136 years: 6732 megatons).

    There is a close correlation between Antarctic temperature and atmospheric concentrations of CO2. The extension of the Vostok [antarctic ice core] CO2 record shows the present-day levels of CO2 are unprecedented during the past 420 thousand years.

    Cites:
    Atmospheric carbon dioxide record from Mauna Loa [ornl.gov]
    Global CO2 Emissions [ornl.gov]
    Historical carbon dioxide record from the Vostok ice core [ornl.gov]
    Earth's atmosphere [wikipedia.org]

    1. Re:Food for thought by OverlordQ · · Score: 5, Informative

      "From 1986 to 2000 central Antartic valleys cooled .7 C per decade with serious ecosystem damage from cold"

      'Antartic climate cooling and terrestrial ecosystem response' Nature 415: 517-20

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      "Both satellite data and ground stations show slight cooling over the last 20 years."

      'Variability and trends in ANtartic surface temperates from in situ and satellite infared measurements' Journal of CLimate, 13: 1674-96

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      "Side-looking radar measurements show West Antartic ice is increasing at 26.8 gigatons/yr. Reversing the melting trend of the last 6000 years"

      'Positive mass balance of the Ross Ice Streams, West Antarticia' Science 295: 476-80

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      "During the last four interglacials, going back 420,000 years, the Earth was warmer than it is today."

      'CLimate and atmospheric history of hte past 420,000 years from the Vostok Ice Core, Antartica' Nature 399: 429-36

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      "Less Antartic ice has melted today than occured furing the last interglacial"

      'Radiocarbon constrains on ice sheet advance and retreat in the Weddell Sea, Antartica' Geology 27: 179-82

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      The Sahara has shrunk since 1980

      'Africans go back to the land as plants reclaim the desert' New Scientist 175, 21 September 2002.

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      On the other hand sea level *is* rising, as it has been for the last 6000 years since the satart of the Holocene, about 10-20 cm every 100 years.

      http://www.csr.utexas.edu/gmsl/main.html

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      Hell I could throw in stats and references about the decreases in tropical storm activity, but I think I've made my point enough.

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  2. Re:No.. It doesn't show this... geeze... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Informative
    Global warming is about as solid as the basis on which greenhouses work. All it relies on is the absorption spectrum of CO2 (and other greenhouse gases) and on blackbody radiation. Both are extremely well tested parts of science, up there with gravity and relativity.

    No, it's not. Modeling climate change is far more complicated and difficult than a simpleminded approach like that. For one, it's difficult to predict the effects of aerosol and cloud formation, both of which reflect/scatter light and reduce the total incident solar energy. It's also necessary to model the CO2 harvesting charactersitics of oceans, and glacial movement as well.

    I'm not saying global warming *doesn't* exist, or that it's anthropogenic, but real climatologists will tell you that saying CO2 + IR absorption = warming doesn't cut it.

  3. Logic clew-by-four by 0xABADC0DA · · Score: 4, Informative

    If the data they considered stops 1200 years ago then it can be correct that this was the warmest century in those 1200 years *and* it was colder before that. Similarly, if this was the hottest January on record that doesn't mean the hottest January ever.

  4. Re:Interesting... by slumberer · · Score: 5, Informative

    They're saying that it was every bit as warm in 800 A.D. then? That kinda discounts their theory that modern man is causing global warming then doesn't it?

    From TFA Reliable records from trees and other sources go back only about 1,200 years. So no, they're NOT saying that it was as warm in 800 AD. They are saying that this is the warmest year since 800 AD and that they don't have have any reliable records before that! This is a big difference.

    I know that this is Slashdot but you really should try reading the article before making inflamatory statements like "Another crackpot theory bites the dust."

  5. Quit assuming that 800 AD was as warm as today. by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Informative

    They're saying that it was every bit as warm in 800 A.D. then? That kinda discounts their theory that modern man is causing global warming then doesn't it?.

    No they didn't and no it doesn't.
    1) Nothing was said about the temperature in 800 AD.
    2) Nothing was said about the rate of change in temperature in 800 AD.

    We didn't have the modern industrial society that is thought to be the primary cause of global warming today. They're just using the tree ring study by Esper, Cook, and Schweingruber as the end point for as far back as we can go. Check out this graph and its explanation on the Wikipedia for more data points.

    Basically, the Medieval Warm Period was still an average of 0.4 C cooler than modern times. It took about 800 years for temperatures to drop 0.4 C to the minimum before the Industrial Revolution and only 200 years since then to rise 0.8 C, an 8X difference in rate of change. Global climate does change on its own naturally, but the change since the dawn of the Industrial Age is still the fastest we've ever seen, and we have solid science that shows how it happens in the form of the greenhouse effect. What more will it take for you people to quit filtering the world for the few tenuous scraps of information that back up your preconceived notions?

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  6. Re:Ingrate! by Reaperducer · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't think Australia signed either. They must hate the Earth, too. Things haven't been right down there since they dropped ".oz"

    You're right about Kyoto, though. The biggest problem with it is the nations that didn't jump on: China and India. Save the "developing nation" crap. Yes, they're dirt poor. They're also huge polluters because they can't afford proper scrubbing on their stacks. There's also a zillion of them, and CO2 isn't the only way to measure pollution. Think particulate matter. I hear lots of environmentalists saying that 300,000,000 Americans make more pollution than 3,000,000,000 Chinese and Indians. Then how come the skies of our cities aren't choked dark orange in midday like in China? (Yes, I've been there, I know.)

    Oh, and for the record: Germany is the only European country actually reducing pollution to meet its Kyoto obligations. CO2 output is up 7% in France, 11% in Italy, and 29% in Spain (numbers from 2003 - the most recent available). They're supposed to reduce their emissions 8% by 2012. Looks like arrogant Europe is going the wrong way and should get its own house in order before jumping ugly with the U.S.

    Good thing I've got Excellent karma. I'm going to need it after this one.

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