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360 Sales Slow, Chip Blamed For Issues

Gamasutra has a bevy of information about the XBox 360. Sales seem to be slowing, just as supply issues seem to be resolving. Microsoft has a target for its annoyance regarding those issues. An analyst is blaming German chip manufacturer Infineon Technologies for the slow arrival of 360 units to market. Regardless of past problems, the company is going full speed ahead with more launches. Latin America saw launch on February 2nd, and "The system will launch in Korea on February 24, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore on March 16, Australia and New Zealand on March 23, with a global presence in 30 countries by the end of March."

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  1. OR ... we are all waiting until PS3 and NR come by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I for one, am doing just that.

    I have a GameCube, multiple GameBoys (color, etc), an xBox and ...

    I'm going to wait until PS3 and NR are here and I can see what actual games work on them and what they feel like.

    I'll probably get a PS3 this time, but maybe I'll get a NR instead. But the xBox360 severely underwhelmed me. Maybe if I had an HDTV right now I might be more into it, but from my perspective it's the Games that matter, not the console itself.

    The reason I bought Sims 2 for the xBox was the graphics were better than the GameCube version. I'm still pretty unimpressed with the xBox, and moreso the xBox360.

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    1. Re:OR ... we are all waiting until PS3 and NR come by Agent00Wang · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm with you on waiting. I haven't been an early console adopter since SNES. I'd rather wait and see how things sort out first. I don't have the time or money to be playing around with multiple systems and I rather just pick one after the competition has run a bit.

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    2. Re:OR ... we are all waiting until PS3 and NR come by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's cause Super Mario World (and Mario 64) were games that were worth their price plus the system in and of itself :)

    3. Re:OR ... we are all waiting until PS3 and NR come by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Interesting

      especially if the GBA player can be attached to the NR... I am 100% sold. It would mean that I can play 100% of the games I regularly play on my current box/SP with the new one, plus the game download service and unique interface.

      According to the Konami and Nintendo shareholders meetings - translated into English, mind you - from this year, it looks like the GBA player will be attachable to the NR, and have wireless connections too.

      We have an old school xbox in our living room on a DLP projector, and it already looks pretty good. I really only play Fable and Morrowind GOTY on it, and my roommates only play Halo 2 and Madden. As of yet we are not impressed enough to split a 360. That box will likely stay there until we can actually compare PS3 and Xbox 360 side to side.

      I agree. I only play Fable (ok, Fable: The Lost Tales or whatever the upgrade was), Sims 2 (new), and Lego Star Wars on the xBox. The rest of the games I find pretty boring. I'll wait until we can look at PS3, NR, and xBox360 - and only believe in games I can demo and see reviews for. I bought the xBox on the hype of games, and I'm not going to shell out good money until I see real games and can test and compare them for all the systems.

      Unless ... they come out with Grand Theft Auto: Seattle ... now, that would be sweet, using the choppers on top of the hospitals here, jumping onto car ferries while being pursued, using a cycle to get on the Ice Cream Cruise, and riding across the swinging bridge or using the Monorail track to bypass traffic jams ...

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  2. Gee, really? by payndz · · Score: 3, Interesting
    360 sales are slow, huh? Maybe that's because:

    There are no real killer titles (and a lot of ports); and
    You still can't buy the damn thing. Nowhere that I've seen, anyway. It's 'Out of stock' notices all round where I live...

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    1. Re:Gee, really? by AgentUSA · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ok, but who really wants to jump through those hoops 3 months after release?

  3. The Blame Game by vonPoonBurGer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...or rather, blame the games. Want something to pin slow console sales on? How about the fact that Xbox360 still doesn't have a killer title! Perfect Dark Zero was a decent enough game, but by most accounts it fell short of being the must-have title that would drive sales of the hardware. The Xbox had Halo, the Xbox360 has... nothing even close to that in terms of popularity. No wonder they can't sell the hardware, there's no Xbox360-exclusive game that people really, really want.

  4. What i am waiting for by azcoffeehabit · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am holding out for the Phantom Game Console!

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  5. "Chip Blamed For Issues" by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Chip"? Is that Ballmer's new nickname? *confused*

  6. the MAIN reason why people don't buy it: by fluor2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The MAIN reason why people don't buy it: it's probably not crackable. Who want a system like that?

  7. Or maybe we don't care... by sterno · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Part of the problem here might simpyl be a lack of interest in the next generation platforms. Yes, there's the hard core people who will be out buying the systems early. But I own a PS2 and it plays the games I have just fine and I haven't bought a game for it in a while. Furthermore, because the XBox and the PS2 are still posessing large market shares, publishers are still making games for them.

    Right now, what incentive is there to drop $400-500 on a new game system? Are the games that much better? Not really. Yeah the graphics are a bit better but not in the same way that the PS2 graphics were better than the PS1. I saw an XBox 360 at the store the other day and some kid was playing a fighting game. Yeah the graphics were nicer, but it was more or less the same game I would play on my Dreamcast back in the day.

    In the end people will move to the new platform because that's where the games will be, but for now there's not a lot of incentive. Most people don't have HDTV's so they don't get much from that. Many people don't even network their game systems from what I've seen. So much of the touted features of the new systems aren't benefitting the majority of people.

    Personally I'll probably buy a PS3 shortly after the release of the next GTA title.

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    1. Re:Or maybe we don't care... by suspected · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Part of the problem here might simpyl be a lack of interest in the next generation platforms.

      I wouldn't say that there is a lack of interest for next generation platforms; historically speaking, the next generation of platforms has always had at least two consoles that sold well. Personally, I don't see the xbox360 as a next generation platform; the release time between the xbox and xbox360 just seems to be too small. Am I the only one who finds it strange that the xbox was the last of the previous generations to be released and that their 360 was the first of the "next-gens" to be released? It seems apparent that Microsoft didn't care enough to release something truly inspiring for their consumers but rather wanted to get the advantage of being the first console out by a long-shot. As a result, it's apparent that the upgrade from the xbox and 360 isn't as overwhelming as we expect when we compare different generation consoles; furthermore, the lack of games for the system is another testament to their speedy release.

      Sorry to get a little long winded, but to conclude: say what you want about the 360 sale's, but don't group it with the other next-gen consoles or use it to make assumptions regarding next-gen sales.

  8. Before fanboys defend the 360 sales figures... by Johan111 · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_2#Sales_r ecord PS2 sold 1 million in opening weekend in Japan, and 500,000 on FIRST DAY in USA. The 360 has been out for almost 3 months and hasn't made a dent in the market. Read the article, the PS2 is outselling 360. And there are units in stores now, go to a Walmart, Zellers, whatver you have. They have 360s. But guess what, higher res versions of the same games wont get people to spend the big bucks.

    1. Re:Before fanboys defend the 360 sales figures... by ivan256 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You can be absolutely positive that if the PS3 sells for $500/unit it will sell nowhere near 500k units in one day in the U.S.

      That's why you can be absolutely positive that the PS3 won't be priced at $500.

      Sony has never gone to market with the most expensive console, even though all the "experts" have always predicted that every upcoming Sony console would be more expensive than the competition.

      Sony wants to let people thing that it's going to cost $500 so people will think it's a bargain when it comes out at $349.

  9. Multiple reasons.... by int2str · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We own(ed) a N64, PS2, PSP, GBA, XBOX and others.
    But we have not bought a Xbox 360 yet. The reaons are multiple:

    - The Price

    The Xbox 360 is significantly more expensive than most other consoles before it. It simply doesn't fall into the "playmoney" category somehow. This makes the barrier of entry too high.

    - The Games

    I've bought the Xbox almost solely because of multiplayer Halo and because my wife is a big Oddworld fan. No sign of either for the 360. Call of duty looks nice, but nothing to shell out ~$350 for (X360+game).

    - The Future

    The Nintento Revolution is going to have Bluetooth (non proprietary) controllers, focus on gaming alone and is set to try a "different" angle on gaming. Hopefully it'll have a good Mario game and come thruogh on the hype.

    The PS3 will have GT 5 (eventually). That's good enough for me :D.

    Either one are worth waiting for to have something to compare the Xbox 360 against.

    Just my $.02

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  10. Sales slow, even if there was enough supply. by dividedsky319 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In my opinion, even if there was enough systems, sales would still be fairlys low.

    There's a certain base of hardcore gamers out there who just have to have the next best thing. Since the 360 is the only next-gen system out right now, it's selling systems.

    Sure, people are preparing for the future, confident that eventually there will be some killer games on the system. But right now, there's really no system seller. People point to the fact that "there's tons of games rated over 8.0 at IGN!" but... an 8.0 game isn't a system seller. It's a game worth playing, but not worth buying a system for. There's plenty of good 8.0 and higher games on the Xbox, PS2 or Gamecube that are comparable at the moment.

  11. Misleading Story Title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This stories title is very misleading, If you read the article it does not say the reason for the slow sales of Xbox 360 is because of lack of demand but quoting right from the article "Needless to say, the main constricting factor for Xbox 360 sales continues to be the poor supply of the console, rather than a lack of consumers to purchase it.". Supply is still an issue, in my area you can not get one, if you go to ebgames.com you are put on a waiting list. If you know how to get one beside paying an absurd amount on ebay let me know. The article even makes comment that supply is still going to be an issue with the additional manufacturing facilities, quoting from the story, "In fact, Wedbush Morgan's note on the sales indicated that it does not believe U.S. supply will exceed 300,000 units per month in the near future, due to the initial worldwide launch and the forthcoming Asian and Australasian launches.".

  12. RTFA by startled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow. There are four posts at 3 or greater, all of them speculating about reasons for slowing XBox 360 sales. The article says: "Needless to say, the main constricting factor for Xbox 360 sales continues to be the poor supply of the console, rather than a lack of consumers to purchase it."

    Interestingly, none of the speculators have given any reason to trust them over Gamasutra, Wedbush Morgan, and Simon Carless. Hey, don't let that get in the way of a pointless flame-fest.

  13. troll by the+computer+guy+nex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "We own(ed) a N64, PS2, PSP, GBA, XBOX and others. But we have not bought a Xbox 360 yet. The reaons are multiple: - The Price The Xbox 360 is significantly more expensive than most other consoles before it. It simply doesn't fall into the "playmoney" category somehow. This makes the barrier of entry too high. - The Games I've bought the Xbox almost solely because of multiplayer Halo and because my wife is a big Oddworld fan. No sign of either for the 360. Call of duty looks nice, but nothing to shell out ~$350 for (X360+game)."

    Price? At $300 it is $50 more than the PSP and exactly the same as the Xbox, PS1, and PS2 at launch date.

    Games? See how many other consoles are released with *4* titles grabbing 90+/100 ratings at launch. COD2, PD0, Kameo, and PGR3.

    People will find any reason to try to bash this system, even make things up.

    1. Re:troll by Winterblink · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you trust the reviews, sure. 1UP went to far to rate PGR a 10/10 the day the 360 hit stores. Perfect? Not so sure about that. I wonder what that reviewer would rate it now after a few months.

      Which only goes to show that review scores themselves are a load of crap really, with the best opinion of a game being your own.

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  14. I disagree by maynard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Speaking as one who does not own a 360, but has field tested it in HD with a friend, I must say that the unit has quite the graphical and raw horsepower punch. I was never much impressed with the original Xbox, but the 360 is a different animal. It competes with a high end gaming PC rig, playing Quake 4 pretty damn well for a $400 toy. COD II is a damn fun game (even if it has had problems with multiplayer in Xbox live). Didn't much care for PDZ though. Not the point.

    I don't think the PS3 will be significantly more powerful, particularly given that Cell SPEs are weighted toward SIMD single precision FP, whereas Xenos has three full integer and VMX (Altivec) cores. The 360 is an amazing deal for $400 - when it works. And that's the problem with the unit. It has an abysmal failure rate, even for a 1st gen product. So I'm holding out for a product update from MS and waiting to see how the PS3 will really perform.

    But I'm not so dismissive of MS's latest offering. If fact, on raw power alone, I'm pretty damn impressed.