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10 Best S/F Films That Never Existed

Jamie mentioned (via a Metafilter discussion) a great article entitled The 10 Best Sci-Fi Films that Never Existed. From the piece: "There was a movie that perfectly captured the Douglas Adams experience, the combination of bitter sarcasm and sharp imagination, the droll British wit and whale-exploding slapstick that infused his novels. And that movie was Shaun of the Dead. That movie was not, unfortunately, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a movie that floated around Hollywood for about 20 years before it finally appeared in theaters as a flat, lifeless, americanized lump that was mostly hated by people who liked the book and loathed by people who hated the book. "

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  1. gibson + movie = horror by Doktor+Memory · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At least Gibson's treatment for Neuromancer didn't get filmed. His script for Johnny Mnenomic did, and it was a complete and total atrocity.

    (That said, his script for Alien 3 would probably have been better than the abortion that Fincher foisted off on us.)

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  2. As an independent filmmaker... by dex22 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...who has struggled for years to fund my various off-the-wall projects, like Best Served Cold I know how hard it is to do anything different.

    I've been working on the project that follows BSC for a year now. It's a cheesy B movie pisstake with zombies and alien bugs, and it'll be a scream. But can I get funding? No! My low budget productions are well made and funny as hell, but fundraising when you're deliberately making cheesy movies, or movies with gorgeous fat chicks, well, it's tough.

    Anyone got $15,000 I can use? :)

  3. Classics by Belseth · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Guess they weren't concerned with novels. Little things like Mote In God's Eye and Ringworld. Even Lucifer's Hammer blew away any of the meteor films that got made, although many stole from it. Science fiction novels done properly for cinema are virtually nonexistent. There are rare exceptions like 2001 but the script was by the writer of the novel and Directed by Kubrick of coarse.

  4. Some biggies... by Foo2rama · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Forget Doom...

    Enders Game
    Stranger in a Strangeland - purchased by Tom Hanks is the rumor
    The Cat who could Walk Through Walls - Heinlin again
    I have no mouth and I must Scream - Ellison

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  5. Re:Oopsie. by Thangodin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It has already been made, and it's called Blade Runner. Gibson was working on Neuromancer when the film came out, and he came out of the theatre buzzing. It was exactly the world he envisioned for Neuromancer.

  6. Re:You know the state of film is lame when... by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What I'd like to see done, and done right, is The Lensman Series, by E.E. "Doc" Smith. Yes, you'd pretty much have to re-write all the dialogue because Smith's writing style wasn't that good, but the story itself is a real classic. Most people reading it today find it cliched, but that's because Smith created the cliches and everybody's been copying him since then. I've heard that Lucas originally wanted to do this, but Smith's daughter turned him down. If so, there's a lot in the Jedi that looks like it was lifted out whole cloth.

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  7. Getting Movies Made by podperson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wishing for novels or computer games to be made into movies, or better movies, is to be ridiculously naive about the moviemaking process. The problem with, say, the DOOM movie is that it's a dumb concept so it doesn't attract good people. Good people are a necessary, but not sufficient, precondition for a halfway decent movie. You options are to pay lots of money to find someone obviously good (e.g. Ridley Scott) and try to get them interested in your movie, or try to pick someone you think will be good, and hope...

    Why has StarCraft not been made into a movie? It's not so incredibly well-known that someone with $50,000,000 can be reasonably sure that folks will watch it despite it having a no-name director and no-name actors, and it isn't that interesting a concept. Aliens, only bigger. People in power armor. More aliens. Big deal. Any fool can come up with this concept, and many have.

    And even if you have a great concept, there are other obstacles.

    Why has Snowcrash not been made into a movie? Not because of any conspiracy, but because it's in creative purgatory somewhere. I guarantee you that (a) someone owns the movie rights, (b) that person has been trying to put the project together since the book was written (or he/she got the rights from the last person), and (c) the project has looked like it might happen at least ten times. The same thing happens to pretty much every halfway decent novel. "Forever War" -- for example -- has been optioned since it was published, and has had directors such as Ridley Scott interested in it, but there are only so many projects a top guy (like Paul Verhoeven, for example) can take on, and stuff gets left by the wayside. Meanwhile, do you want your brilliant SF movie directed by Ridley Scott in ten years or whoever's available today? Down one path lies a movie that never gets made; down the other lies DOOM: The Movie.

    Look at the books that do get made into movies... They're either something that has grabbed the attention of someone with serious clout (e.g. Clint Eastwood or Oprah or whoever) or they're absolute no-brainers ("The Da Vinci Code").

    Aside:

    Hitchhiker's Guide was originally a radio play, so statements (from TFA) such as "since most of the comedy was in the narrative language and descriptions" are baloney. This reminds me of the director of "The Saint" (the version with Val Kilmer) who referred to having researched "the original TV series" (sorry, bud, it was originally a series of books).

  8. Needed: The Mega Phantom Edit. by MsGeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The way I figure it, Episode I was a total waste of time. It was dull, badly written, poorly acted and just generally no damned good. What Liam Neeson was doing in this movie I'll never understand, and the introduction of idiocies like midichlorians and Anakin-as-Jesus-virgin-birth crap was nonsensical, and would require the most bizarre explanation for Anakin's brother Owen in the next film.

    Agreed. Episode I raped my childhood. I've already gone off about midichlorians. The idea of Anakin being a created being caused by Sith force-manipulation of one of Shmi Skywalker's ova is interesting, but was introduced clumsily in Episode I. This revelation might have been something for a later episode. Or maybe an aside in a single prequel movie.

    I always come back to it, again and again: Episodes I, II and III would have made a bitchen single movie.

    Another thing that rankled about Episode I was the blatant pandering to the juvenile audience. Jar Jar Binks was only the tip of the iceberg. Young Anakin as a boy genius was just intolerable and gag-producing. Episode I didn't have to be kidvid. "The Phantom Edit" proved that.

    Episode II just didn't seem to know where to go. Did it want to be Obiwan's detective story? Did it want to be the love affair between Anakin and Padme? About Anakin's descent into the dark side? The Sith's bizarre machinations (including a Sith apprentice who tells Anakin that "oh yeah, the Sith control the Senate")? Or is it a political thriller? It wanted to go so many places in two hours that it ultimately went very little distance at all. One way to have patched things up would have been for Anakin to become Darth Vader at the end of that film, which would have made the next film much more interesting.

    Again, if the prequels had just been one movie, a lot of this weirdness could have been just asides and flashbacks. Also the main weakness of the film was the actor chosen to play Anakin as an adult. Sorry, but Hayden Christiansen falls completely flat as a pancake. He reminds me of the deer-caught-in-the-headlights performance of John Travolta as "The Boy In The Plastic Bubble." He might have been good elsewhere, but he was a bad Anakin.

    Everyone screamed when Leonardo DiCaprio was considered as Anakin. However, he had chops as an actor before "Titanic," (Go rent "What's Eating Gilbert Grape" and "The Basketball Diaries" sometime) and he definitely showed he had chops and could portray a character like Anakin in the movie "The Aviator." DiCaprio's Howard Hughes was a swashbuckling, rogueish guy who started coming apart at the seams. Anakin Skywalker always struck me as a swashbuckling roguish guy who came apart at the seams. DiCaprio is going to wind up like fellow ex-teen idol Johnny Depp...a really awesome character actor who can do anything he wants to. I don't know if his oevre will be as quirky as Johnny Depp, whose work I love.

    Episode III. As close as we'll ever get in Lucas's post-1980s world to a good Star Wars film. Still clunky, but at least the Emperor comes off interesting (by now he's clearly the only character in the prequels that is really all that interesting). Still, way too much deux ex machina. Anakin still seems to sort of abruptly become Darth Vader rather than a slow descent into evil (which is why I think the more natural transition would have been at the end of Episode II). The whole "my apprentice is in trouble" which gets the Emperor on a ship to fly to Vader's aid was the worst example. The ending was idiotic, the Darth Vader suit sequence seeming anticlimactic, and the whole bit about Padme dying not only ridiculously maudlin but making the Epside VI statement by Leia that she could still remember her mother rather odd, considering Luke didn't.

    Episode III would provide the backbone to a potential "Mega Phantom Edit." Every important element that moved the plot forward in Episodes I and II could be told in flashback around the framework of Episode III.

    The whole relationship between Padme and A

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  9. Re:Best quote from the article by imadork · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Are people still worked up about this midi-chlorian shit? That's the part of the prequels that bothered me the least. I do at least understand why you're all pissed. Who would have ever thought that a mystic bad-ass Jedi Knight would have essentially whipped out a tricorder and punched a few buttons to get the answer? It just seems wrong, right?

    You see, that's the whole point -- it was wrong. The Jedi Order from the prequels was getting a little too big for its britches, a little too political, a little too technical. They were starting to abandon the mystical connection to the Force in favor of things that they could see and measure. As a result of this, they started to miss the whole point of this Force business, and the only way to rescue things and "bring balance" was to fucking kill them all, and start over from scratch.

    At least, that's how I would have wrote it.

  10. MOD UP by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So many other folks don't seem to get how the Jedi Order in the prequels was intentionally a bit crap. The "return" in ROTJ means Luke is restarting the Jedi, but it also means that the purity has returned, the Jedi are back to their ideal.

    Note how neither Yoda nor Obi-Wan try to teach Jedi culture to Luke. No "council", no rules, no "padawan" or other ranks. If they hadn't the time while alive, they could still do it while blue and glowy - but no. I'd call that deliberate.

  11. The Matrix Re-Edited by payndz · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm pretty sure if you give me Reloaded and Revolutions and a knife, I can cut you a lone, 100-minute Matrix sequel that would flatten your balls.

    I actually did that, just for the hell of it. It wasn't 100 minutes, but 117 isn't too far off. As to whether it flattened anyone's balls, I couldn't really say - but I do know it's now the only way I can watch the sequels, because it made me realise just how awfully bloated and padded and pretentious they are.

    The major changes:
    All the 'Trinity's death' dream sequence (and references to it) removed.
    Film now starts with Smith possessing Bane, then cuts to Neo jolting awake on the Neb as if that's what woke him.
    Meeting of the captains shortened.
    Arrival at Zion shortened.
    The Kid excised almost completely (I accidentally left one shot of him in).
    The rave deleted.
    Neo's fight with Seraph removed.
    The Oracle's conversation with Neo shortened.
    Most of the meeting with the Merovingian taken out (including the 'virtual orgasm').
    Chateau fight shortened.
    Twins fight shortened.
    Car chase shortened.
    Fight between Morpheus and the Agent deleted.
    The scene where the Machines destroy one of the ships re-edited to take out the 'WTF?' accident that kills the crew (now they just get blown up).
    The Architect's bafflegab shortened.
    Trinity/Agent fight shortened.
    Trinity doesn't get shot while falling - Neo simply grabs her, so the scene of him taking out the bullet also goes.
    The 'DUN!' ending of Reloaded re-edited using a shot from Revolutions so that the two films blend together.
    The entire Mobil Avenue/Club Hel/Morpheus and Trinity meet the Oracle section deleted.
    Neo's meeting with the Oracle shortened.
    Smith's meeting with the Oracle, ditto.
    The standoff between Neo and Bane as Trinity's held hostage removed.
    The three stories at the climax are now intercut - Neo's flight to Machine City, the Hammer's Sewer Shark fight and the Battle of Zion now all take place at once.
    Huge amount of cutting of the Battle of Zion - the only minor character who now gets any screentime is Mifune (Zee and all her pals are completely gone).
    Major re-editing so that Mifune, not The Kid, opens the door.
    Trinity's death scene cut by three frickin' minutes!
    Super Burly Brawl shortened.
    Meeting between the Oracle and the Architect cut - the film now ends with Neo's apotheosis cutting straight to sunrise over the Matrix.

    All done using iMovie and iDVD! I know that some Matrix purists were enraged by the mere idea of cutting any of the existential dialogue when I posted about this elsewhere, but screw 'em - if you live your life according to the philosophy of a movie, you've got bigger problems than some guy doing his own edit of it.

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