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Slashback: Quinn, InfoCards, McKinnon

Slashback tonight brings some corrections, clarifications, and updates to previous Slashdot stories, including The Boston Globe's Ombudsman speaks on Peter Quinn story, Microsoft continues to push their password-less approach to web browsing, Gary McKinnon extradition reopened, and more news on the organic car fuel front -- Read on for details.

Globe's Ombudsman silent no longer. Andy Updegrove writes "For two months, the ombudsman of the Boston Globe has been silent on the reporting that helped bring about Massachusetts CIO Peter Quinn's resignation. Last night, in response to an entry pointing out that silence at the Standards Blog, ombudsman Richard Chacon at last responded, admitting to "lingering questions over why the [Quinn travel investigation] story was allowed to run without comment from Eric Kriss," but standing by "the initial reasons for looking into the story." Chacon also promises to report back with further observations after contacting Peter Quinn."

Microsoft continues push for 'InfoCards'. FrankieBoy writes "Bill Gate kicked off the RSA computer conference in San Jose, CA by unveiling a few more details about their new 'InfoCard' system in the upcoming IE7. With InfoCards people could save personal information on virtual cards on their computers which websites would recognize removing the need for many different internet passwords."

Gary McKinnon extradition hearing reopened. earthlingpink writes "BBC News is reporting that the extradition hearing has reopened for Briton Gary McKinnon who is accused by the US of hacking into military computers. The damages he has caused is estimated at £370,000 (about $640,000 today) and he is said to face more than 45 years in prison. The original story and audio interview were both covered by Slashdot in June of last year."

Bugs to help kick oil addiction. Mr. Ghost writes "Bugs such as certain species of termites and fungi such as Trichoderma reesei may be the key to effectively and cheaply generate ethanol from cellulose. Small companies like Iogen and large international energy companies like Royal Dutch Shell are putting more and more money into this research. This type of technology may even be a way for the American automobile industry to gain back market share from its competitors."

21 of 103 comments (clear)

  1. Nice. by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So stealing my laptop will allow anyone to go to websites and impersonate me?

    1. Re:Nice. by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So stealing my laptop will allow anyone to go to websites and impersonate me?

      Why, yes, yes it will.

      Aren't you sleeping soundly, Citizen?

      Trust the Computer: The Computer is Your Friend.

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    2. Re:Nice. by Xeo+024 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nah, you're just being paranoid. I'm sure no one has the time to "go to websites and impersonate" other people. Have some faith in your fellow man..

      -CmdrTaco

  2. Passport The Standard? by webmistressrachel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see how Microsoft would like to position their system (passes, OS, Mail Client, etc.) as the "standard". Even previous versions of Windows allowed users to talk to everybody and anybody. Now it seems they have found another way to cut out 3rd-party companies, or get license fees (thus still dominating the market).

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  3. Collection of InfoCard Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    At a Harvard workshop last week on user-centric identity, a bunch of us agreed to collect InfoCard issues as we hear about them. While work in progress, and your mileage my vary, I put an initial list of those on my blog.

    http://netmesh.info/jernst/Digital_Identity/micros oft-infocard-issues.html

    Kim Cameron, the chief identity architect at Microsoft, agreed to take them back into Microsoft to hopefully get them resolved.

    1. Re:Collection of InfoCard Issues by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Funny

      Chief Identity Architect? (yes, it's unfair in this case)

  4. Re:New mantra? by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 3, Informative

    Troll on, but you miss the mark, my uninformed friend.

    This is nothing to do with data aggregation, targeted advertising or behavior tracking. It is not invasive software, surreptitiously installed while a user beleives they are performing another action.

    This is more akin to "soft token" technologies:
    http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=214 1
    http://www.actividentity.com/en/products/4_2_6_sof tware_token.php
    http://www.securehq.com/group.wml&deptid=80&groupi d=566

    The catcher is that this is not tied to X.509 PKI infrastructures, per se. Identity is established by locally configurable means - usually a Kerberos ID - and presented by signed XML markups, rather than the static, signed ASN.1 encodings in certificates. The exchange is still fundamentally an RSA public key validation type problem, but with an extensible policy mechanism in XML. This is an application of the work done by multiple vendors in the WS-Security space. Dynamic policy, negotiated in a federated manner between endpoints, is not possible with x.509, which has permanent policy encoded in the cert.

    There is integration with Windows AD Federation, which means there is possibility to interoperate with SAML clients. Trust can also be established by reputation - with attesters signing a keychain for particular identities.

    The short story is that this could end phishing attacks.

    The long story is that most banks and investment firms won't make this mandatory for transactions, since their Businesses still insist on Win95/IE4 compatibility from their IT and InfoSec personnel.

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  5. Ombudsman didn't really respond at all by Error27 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I hate how lazy and irresponsible the mainstream media is these days.

    The original article basically implied that Quinn was taking gifts from vendors to travel to conferences all over the world. This turned out to be false. So basically falsehoods. My feeling is that Quinn deserves an appology at minimum.

    Then the "investigation" is just the Ombudsman phoning the reporter up, the reporter says there isn't any issue so it's fine. Plus some excuses about how busy the Ombudsman is and how his assistant is only part time. Mix in a few ad hominem attacks.

    Nice. Way to go. It's goot that we have moronic lazy turd to keep everyone honest.

  6. yes they can, without that much trouble. by twitter · · Score: 2, Insightful
    So stealing my laptop will allow anyone to go to websites and impersonate me?

    They can do that now, depending on what tools you use to store your information. All of the better browsers have some kind of password memory. If you took Bill's bait, you are using passport, the one password to rule them all. Of course, any of the keyloggers that propagate by M$ born worm will remember your passwords without telling you and Microsoft's "fast find" has kept a log of everything you type since 98. The real thing to worry about is the system being compromised from afar. Someone who knows what they are doing does not have to steal your laptop to get what they want out of it. Non Microsoft tools have taken local and remote attack into consideration but all bets are off with silly stuff like fast find.

    Things are better on non M$ platforms.

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    1. Re:yes they can, without that much trouble. by rohanl · · Score: 2, Informative
      They can do that now, depending on what tools you use to store your information. All of the better browsers have some kind of password memory.

      I don't know how other browsers/platforms implement this, but Safari on Mac OS X stores all password info in the Keychain. So the info is only available if you can get into that.

      The default Keychain is unlocked when you log in, but you can create any number of other Keychains and keep them locked. Move the password data stored by Safari into a different keychain that you keep locked, and it's pretty secure.

  7. Re:But "InfoCard"'s nothing new, is it? by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No. You are talking about PIN/Password caching, in an encrypted store. Think Mac keychain.

    This is an identity system, that supports federation, incorporates policy negotiation and can establish reputation with third-parties.

    It is Passport, without the central identity repository - similar to Liberty Alliances' SAML work, but in the WS-Security framework, and with extended user functionality.

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  8. Re:Biofuels are great! by KlomDark · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unfortunately the majority of farms these days are corporate farms. Sure, there's still a lot of family-owned farms, but they are slowly getting Borged by the CorpFarms. Also lots of sneaky bullshit where CorpFarms set up deals with companies so they get better deals when they sell their products than the family farms can get.

  9. InfoCard and Passport by truthsearch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Microsoft already had a universal password system fail: Passport. The majority of web site owners simply didn't trust Microsoft enough to integrate their security in any way.

  10. How much land? by TheEvilOverlord · · Score: 2, Interesting

    effectively and cheaply generate ethanol from cellulose

    I wonder does anyone know how much land this would take up?

    A. What's the richest source of cellulose
    B. Based on the energy value of the ethanol produced from say 1 tonne of the crop, how much land is going to be needed to replace the oil consumtion in private cars in the USA?

    I bet it's not a small amount...

    1. Re:How much land? by gone.fishing · · Score: 3, Informative

      You have some good questions and I don't have the answers however, I can share some insight that I do have.

      Any woody or grassy plant is an excellent source of cellulose. This means that much land that is currently thought of as unprofitable would be well suited to grow the crop. For instance swamps could be harvested (without harming the wetlands in the winter) and could provide a huge amount of the raw matterials. "Slash and trash" from forests being harvested for lumber and pulp could also supply a lot of cellulose from the branches, leaves, and roots that are currently unused.

      From what I have read the conversion of cellulose to ethanol is pretty efficient; the bugs eat the woody stuff and crap out suggary stuff that is made into ethanol using pretty normal, efficient processes. Think of these bugs like yeast, they eat and reproduce quite well given the proper circumstances so their added cost is minimal.

      While the amount of land required to produce the feedstock for an ethanol production facility is something to consider, along with the costs of producing ethanol, this is only one part of the formula. The other side is the fact that oil that the United States imports puts us at the mercy of some people who we don't want controlling us. If we can put ourselves on a diet and reduce the amount of energy we import, we have a safer country and a more stable economy while we put Americans to work making something that we currently pay someone else for. When we reduce the demand for oil it is even likely that the oil that we do import will be less expensive (we are a major consumer of oil and the law of supply and demand will slide in our favor).

      Ethanol is not a new, unique, or unusual fuel. Brazil is already up and running on an alcohol based economy, the lion's share of their fuel is produced in Brazil from sugar cane. In the MidWest of the United States, many states require all of the fuel sold in their state contain ten percent ethanol. In Minnesota (where I live) we recently increased the minimum amount of ethanol to twenty percent. We have a number of ethanol plants here that are distilling ethanol from corn. E85 us also making inroads. I have not noticed any difference in the way my cars run (2000 Dodge pickup, 2000 Chevy Venture, and a 1993 Ford Explorer) since the switch. Regular gas here today was $2.04/gal. Some people say their gas mileage is about the same but I'd say that I have seen a slight decrease in the MPG from "real" gas, I would guess the number to be about 5% reduction in MPG. Still even assuming a slight reduction in MPG, how does $2.04 stack up against the price you are paying for gas?

  11. Re:Biofuels are great! by LoRdTAW · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The only problem is, this will put the oil companies out of business."

    If you think about it why would they let themselves go out of business? Who is to say they wont buy out bio firms and farms working on alt fuels? Trust me, one day driving by exxon and shell farms producing the raw material for ethanol and bio diesel.

  12. Because its a crime stupid. by Chiminea · · Score: 3, Insightful

    McKinnon did not accidently wander into those systems, he did it intentionally knowing he was breaking the laws in both the UK and the USA. I took over as SA on a machine he had previously compromised. When it was determined that it had been "hacked" (yeah it takes mad skillz to exploit the old default MS SQL password) I had to report it and deal with the ensuing fun. After the forensic analysis (which was very fruitful) the box had to be reinstalled from scratch:NT,SQL and a particularly ugly document management application. Now those of you reading this who are actual professional system administrators know that we probably had other things to do. So if Gary is worried about spending time in a Virginia prison, tough. Thats where we keep criminals. (Sorry, didn't mean to rant).

  13. Re:New mantra? by CaymanIslandCarpedie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Make no mistake, no security scheme (at least that is feasible for average use) will ever be perfectly secure. But when saying "all that does is identify the machine, not the user" you must consider "what does the current system (passwords) identify?".

    The answer is nothing. Passwords are probably just about the worst security method you could imagine (besides no security at all)! They just happen to be the easiest method, so they became default.

    If you spend some times actually researching InfoCard, you'll see it is at minimum a very interesting idea. Do I think it is the ultimate correct answer to security? No. However, its the most promising proposal I've seen in some time that can both provide pretty solid security and be easy enough for joe sixpack to put in wide use. Eventually, I'm sure better things will come along (or things similar to InfoCard will evolve and improve) but for the time being InfoCard is probably the best idea out there right now considering security offered, ease of use, expandibility, etc.

    The point is passwords have well outlived thier usefulness in computer security and ideas like InfoCard are promising ideas which could well be the answer (at least for now).

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  14. Too biased and anti-Microsoft... partial nonsense by TheSpoom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    IE has password memory. So does Mozilla / Firefox, Opera, Safari, and a host of other browsers. It's a feature to make it easier to access sites, but users with high authentication should know that that ease comes at a cost of security. Admittedly many non-IE browsers have a "master password" structure whereby you type one password for it to remember all of your passwords on demand (as mentioned by a sibling post about Safari), but said poster also recognized that most of these systems ship with the feature off by default, and even if it is on, you're still doing a balancing act with security and ease -- if a cracker finds your master password, they've found ALL your passwords.

    And I believe you're referring to FindFast, Microsoft's indexing tool that they shipped with Office. As I remember it, FindFast indexed documents (i.e. Microsoft Word, Excel, etc. files) so they could be found easier later, as well as have quicker in-file searching (i.e. searching for a word inside all your documents). It never stored your domain passwords or any such security-related tokens. Once again, though, you're only screwed if you put your password inside a Word file in your system... and why the hell would you do that if you're concerned about security? (P.S.: Anyone who had even a bit of technical acument would turn FindFast off back in the time when it was used, as it made your system horribly slow when it was indexing and tended to do so at inopportune times.)

    Passport only works on sites that explicitly choose to support it, and generally only if you register yourself that way: most will give you an option for a registration in their site database only (eBay did this previously if I remember correctly). Several alternatives have been attempted at Passport-like solutions as well, to be fair, including some open source options. Once again, Microsoft isn't forcing you to use their solution, and I doubt a lot of systems use Passport authentication for high-level access anyway.

    Normally I wouldn't be so argumentative, but you made a sweeping generalization when you said that "non Microsoft tools have taken local and remote attack into consideration". You made your bias quite clear in that statement. Next time you want to post attacks, at least back them up with some proof or evidence.

    Anyway, I have yet to form an opinion on this InfoCard thing, but seeing as how it'll likely be Microsoft-proprietary and they'll probably have something to gain from it, I doubt I'll be either signing up for one (unless I have to in order to access a system, and even then I'll resist quite vocally) or deploying it on my own login systems.

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  15. Ombudsman didn't get it either by konijn · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "I (and the Globe) have no stake in the debate over Open Source or Windows."
    Mr. Chacon, this is about Open Standards, not Open Source.
  16. Re:The problem with 20% Ethanol by gone.fishing · · Score: 2, Informative

    We have had ten percent ethanol in our fuel here in Minnesota for many years. I personally have never had to replace any part that has been damaged by ethanol and I don't expect the old Explorer to suffer any worse with twenty percent. Frankly, I think ethanol helps keep the fuel system cleaner.

    Alcohol is less volatile than gasoline in cold weather but the lion's share of every-day cars on the road are now fuel injected and that more than makes up for some alcohol in the gas (injectors vaporize fuel much better than carburetors). Also, the alcohol really helps with frozen fuel lines and "water in the gas" both used to be big problems here in Minnesota where many of us all winter long added gas line anti-freeze (which is just alcohol) to our gas. We no longer need to do that.

    Today, we don't need a second tank for gas/alcohol mixes but they do use that configuration in Brazil where most drivers use pure ethanol for fuel. I have a friend who uses E85 in her tank and she has never complained about hard starts in cold weather so, I assume that just a little gas added to the alcohol is all it takes to make it start well in the winter.

    What really helps in the winter is a good battery. I try to replace mine at three years and I buy the biggest battery that will fit (you can get some 1000 amp batteries that are pretty small). Back in the days of carburetors I used to have to use a tank-heater and when it was really cold I'd even hook up a battery charger and throw a blanket over the hood and grille. I haven't done that in ten years though.