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Microsoft To Offer Free Wireless VoIP

Strudelkugel writes "The Business Online reports: MICROSOFT has developed a Skype-style free internet voice service for mobile phones that City analysts believe could wipe billions off the market value of operators such as Vodafone.The service is included in a mobile version of Microsoft Office Communicator due to be released this year. It will take the form of a voice-over internet protocol (VoIP) application that allows Office users to make free voice calls over wi-fi enabled phones running Windows Mobile software. Microsoft chief executive Steve Ballmer dropped his bombshell at the mobile operators' annual 3GSM show in Barcelona last week. The significance of his remarks was missed because of his effusive and eccentric delivery..." That is huge; I would hope to see the same thing coming out on the Symbian and other devices. The hard part will be getting these to market; since almost all mobile phones are sold thru the mobile telcom companies.

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  1. Telco's are still running the show though by Tenk101 · · Score: 3, Informative


    I'm all for this, but at least where I live in the UK most public WAPss are control by telephone companies like BT or T-Mobile, this even includes WAPss that you find in hotels etc.. It would definately be good at home and at work but I think less good on the move unless a bunch more WiFi operators start up and get seriously comptetive.

    As it is, I only really use public WAPs when I really need something because they also charge very high rates for short sessions like an hour. The only way to get better rates on the public WAPs is to subscribe to a telco operated service then you end up full circle.

  2. Service and Phone separated in Europe by madsen · · Score: 5, Informative
    The hard part will be getting these to market; since almost all mobile phones are sold thru the mobile telcom companies.
    In the states perhaps. In Europe it's very common that you buy your phones unlockled. Here in Finland it's even illegal to sell a phone with the service included, they have to be sold separately, without connection.
  3. Re:It won't wipe billions off anything by acid_zebra · · Score: 3, Informative

    "3G internet costs a fortune to use"

    that phase will not last long. Already here in the Netherlands I can get almost 100% coverage (granted, we're a small country) and my provider has contracts with most other European countries so I don't pay through the nose there.

    I pay something like 60-70 EUR a month for flat-fee UMTS access.

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  4. Re:Hmm by dodobh · · Score: 4, Informative
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  5. Skype has that by Britz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Isn't that exactly what Skype has been offering for almost 2 years now with Skype for Pocket PC?

    http://www.skype.com/products/skype/pocketpc/

  6. Very good point. by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 5, Informative

    Free, RELIABLE wi-fi is not available in nearly as many areas in the U.S. as even T-Mobile cell phone coverage. (Note: T-Mobile's coverage SUCKS. They still have far greater and more reliable coverage than free or even paid Wi-Fi.)

    Also note that 802.11's channel access scheme is not well suited to transferring many small packets at low latency, which is required for VoIP. The end result is that even an 802.11g access point at full rate (54 Mbps) has trouble matching even a 1.544 Mbps T1 line in terms of VoIP capacity, *even with voice compression*. This is because the capacity limit turns out to be not the raw bitrate, but the number of *packets* per second that the system is able to handle. Small packets and 802.11 just don't mix for a number of reasons. For bulk data, there are packet bursting extensions to 802.11 that help a lot (Part of SuperG for example, and I think Broadcom's equivalent to SuperG also does bursting), but packet bursting introduces too much latency and variation in latency for VoIP.

    There was a good analysis of 802.11 capacity for SIP-based VoIP somewhere, I can't remember where. Note that IAX trunks would get MUCH better capacity in this situation, but this only helps for actual trunk connections (for example, trunking across a long-range cantenna-based 11g link), not when each user has a different device connected to the AP.

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  7. Re:Sounds Great by killjoe · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can do this now. If you have a windows based mobile phone you can use skype. You don't have to wait for MS to sell you something.

    All you need is a wifi spot.

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  8. It's weak, but here's how by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 3, Informative

    MS Communicator enters Microsoft into two areas:

    • VOIP
    • Corporate Instant Messaging and Collaboration

    The integration only works on MS OSes and in MS Office of course.

    Microsoft recently announced that they're going into the corporate mobile email business, competing with RIM.

    Microsoft announced that their mobile OS will support free wireless VOIP.

    So... the year is 2008. You fire up your new workplace computer, it comes up with MS Communicator. You can add all your buddies from your IM lists, and you can add all their cell phones for texting. You can also access your corporate email.

    Now you're looking at your cell phone plan and thinking "I sure wish I had a MS mobile phone so that I could use all these features from my cell phone. Free calling, corporate IM, corporate email integration... etc."

    That's how MS uses their OS monopoly to extend into the cellular market, entrench their corporate email solution, deepen their penetration of MS Office, while providing people the first reason to upgrade since Office 97.

    (BTW, I HATE real-time collaboration.)