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Gamers Of The Apocalypse

The Escapist's theme this week is 'retro-style games', and Russ Pitts (one of the gents behind Gamers With Jobs) has a piece on post-apocalyptic gaming. Entitled 'Duck and Cover', it touches on games with that fallout flavour. From the article: "The desolate imagery and desperate sense of hopelessness in the face of unimaginable tragedy make Fallout a difficult game to finish (especially for a Day After Kid), but it is precisely the ending of this game that makes every moment of pain and frustration worthwhile. Watching the Fallout's ending cut-scene rendered me utterly speechless. I literally could not summon the words or thoughts to describe my emotions."

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  2. Re:MMORPG needed by drewzhrodague · · Score: 2

    Wait 10 years, and then go outside. It'll be real, though, not a game.

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  3. He missed two great ones by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) Wasteland is the godfather of all post-apocalyptic RPGs. If you haven't played it, try giving it a few hours.

    2) Burntime is another people might enjoy, it's a challenging mix of post-apocalyptic RPG and RTS.

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  4. Fallout 2 by mmalove · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Fallout 2 was one of, if not the, best open ended RPGs out there. I never did finish it though. The farthest I got with with a pugilist (I poured points into Hand to Hand), which while requiring a good deal of reloads when combat didn't go quite right, was in fact the funnest and funniest rpg I ever played. For all the streetfighter II, there was nothing quite like critically kicking an alien in the eyeball, blinding it, knocking it back 100 meters, and ultimately killing it in one cruel blow.

    Somehow, with all it's 3d skill/stat/level/3cd/2expansion, Morrowind never could hold a candle to this rpg. I'm now itchin to reinstall it:)

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    1. Re:Fallout 2 by Rayonic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ever play with a character who had an Intelligence of 1? (Or however low it will let you set it.) Lots of hilarious dialogue, as your character can barely string three words together. Yet, the game remains perfectly beatable.

    2. Re:Fallout 2 by Txiasaeia · · Score: 3, Interesting
      "Actually, I'm 100% sure you could not beat Fallout 2 with H2H combat..."

      Heh, you're wrong. It's entirely possible to defeat the end baddie in hand to hand combat with a mega power fist and lots of criticals. I did this about two weeks ago.

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    3. Re:Fallout 2 by tdelaney · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Speaking as someone who's completed both Fallout 1&2 over 40 times each (and counting ...)

      It is entirely possible to complete FO2 using H2H - it's lots of fun too. First thing - aimed attacks on the arms ...

      It's what I love about the Fallouts - you can play any way you want. Combat, diplomacy, good, evil, theft (for the most part) ... I've done them all. I've completed games where I've killed every single person in every location. I've completed games where I personally haven't killed anyone directly. I've had games last as short as a few hours, and gams last over 100 hours.

  5. Re:MMORPG needed by HanClinto · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whoa, looks sweet.

    Why does every game like that have to be riddled with scantily clad females? Sheesh. You'd think if you lived in a place with sandstorms and hostile chemicals, you would wear at least a t-shirt that didn't have holes all through it.

    Other than that, looks like a good game!

  6. Re:Fallout 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    but I worry anytime someone buys someone elses baby and tries to run with it.

    You said it, brother. I tried that once and it turned out to be an fbi sting operation. Boy, was that ever a mistake.

  7. Day after kid by mazarin5 · · Score: 2

    Sorry, but WTF is a "Day after kid"?

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    1. Re:Day after kid by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Given the topic, he's probably referring to the made-for-TV movie The Day After , which was directed by Geek movie god, Nicholas Meyer (Star Trek II). It was shown in 1983 on the ABC television network in the U.S. and showed what might happen in small-town Kansas after a nuclear holocaust.

      My guess is that he was a kid when that movie first aired, which had a powerful impact on a lot of viewers back then, thus making him a "Day After" kid.

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  8. Ridiculous /. moderation strikes again by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Okay, will someone explain to me why the parent was slammed as a "troll"? As I replied, the author of the Escapist article is most likely referring to himself in reference to a 1983 movie -- that's 23 years ago, folks -- from a U.S. network. Okay, he could have asked with a bit less attitiude, but there should be no surprise that people would not understand the reference.

    Not everyone on Slashdot is from the U.S., and not everyone on Slashdot is old enough to remember some of the events in 1983 that would have such an impact on the TV psyche like "The Day After" did for a lot of people.

    I'm from the U.S. and I remember when "The Day After" was shown on ABC. But at least I can give Slashdot users the benefit of the doubt that they're not all American thirty-somethings. Hopefully, metamoderation will slam that knucklehead appropriately.

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  9. Re:Interesting read, nothing new. by Dehumanizer · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just a correction: pimping your wife (or, indeed, having one) was a Fallout 2-only feature. :)

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  10. Fans have significantly patched Fallout 2 by The+Optimizer · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a game developer, the community following that Fallout and Fallout 2 have sustained to this day totally amazes me. Of course when I've encountered some of the ex-Black Isle guys, I had my moments of being reduced to a fanboy as well. No offence guys :-)

    Anyway, the user community has slowly but surely reverse engineered most of the Fallout games with the intent of making mods and fixing bugs in the games. The release of the Fallout 2 Mapper (thanks to many of the former team, especially Chris A) help accelerate the process.

    One of the great things that came out of their effort has been a few mods that fix most of the gameplay bugs in Fallout 2. Fixed Items, Quests, Dialog options, NPC's, missing encounters, and so on. I personally replayed the game last fall with Seraph's Fallout 2 patch, and _WOW_, what an improvement.

    My recommendation: If this article made you think you would like to replay Fallout or Fallout 2, head on over to http://www.nma-fallout.com/ and dig up one the latest patches and play the game as the designers had intended it to be.