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Razorback2 Servers Seized

An anonymous reader writes "Slyck is reporting that Belgian and Swiss authorities have raided and seized Razorback2's servers. From the article: 'Razorback2 was an eDonkey2000 indexing server - very different in nature from an indexing site such as ShareReactor. Unlike indexing sites, Razorback2's index was only available through an eDonkey2000 client such as eMule. While it does not host any actual files or multimedia material, it does index the location of such files on the eDonkey2000 network. The legality of such indexing remains questionable, however this has not deterred copyright enforcement actions.'"

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  1. Decentralize by ZephyrXero · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is why decentralized file-sharing is the only way to go.... maybe now stuff like Waste or the more traditional Gnutella will gain a big rise in popularity?

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  2. Sucks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...because it was the biggest and best ed2k server but there are lots of others left. Also, there is KAD (kademlia - a decentralized search) which has pretty much replaced the ed2k servers for me (you get *FAR* more and way better results using KAD instead). The worst problem I see is more people will rely on KAD, increasing the server load...

    1. Re:Sucks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The worst problem I see is more people will rely on KAD, increasing the server load...

      Please, get your facts straight!

      Kademlia (short: KAD) is _NOT_ a centralized search facility, it is a search that goes just as much Peer 2 Peer as the downloading goes.

      You ask your "neighbours" in the network, they will ask you, they report back to you, you to them and so on...

      Therefore, your thought about "overloading the KAD-Servers" just wont happen, maybe your very own connection will use more resources for searching and giving results than before when everyone uses Kademlia but thats about it.

      Read more about Kademlia here

  3. Re:Interesting by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Insightful
    > > How come when the property of regular citizens is siezed for investigation of a piracy or drug-related crime, you always hear the term "raid."
    >
    >That's because regular citizens "loot" these materials, while Microsoft "find" tax loopholes ;)

    I am erotic. You are kinky. They are perverts.
    We protect. Our allies enforce. Our enemies oppress.
    Congress appropriates. Microsoft lobbies. Citizens steal.

    With apologies to Calvin and Hobbes - if you think verbing weirds language, wait'll you try conjugation!

  4. Interesting bits from TFA by NiteShaed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Swiss authorities arrested the site's operator at his residence in Switzerland this morning and searched his home.

    Searched his home? For what, burned copies of Spider Man 2 and illicit Metallica albums?

    By shutting down Razorback2, the ease with which pirates can obtain illegal content online will slow dramatically.

    Two comments about this part....

    One, I hate it when they make it seem like the main users of these systems are organized crime lords sitting in their pirate CD distribution warehouses. I guess that image is more dramatic than nerds looking for episodes of StarGate Atlantis though.

    Two, slow "piracy" down dramatically? Do they actually believe this? Taking down one ed2k server, however large it is, hardly strangles p2p file sharing....

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  5. Re:Interesting by david.given · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...if you think verbing weirds language, wait'll you try conjugation!

    Now, now, conjugating verbs should be done only between consenting grammatical forms in the privacy of their own paragraph.

    Remember: people have sex, and words have gender!

  6. Scary in another context. by AntiDragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find it somewhat worrying. It's an index, right? It's not the infringing content per se, but a list of where such content could be found. Morally, pointing the way to some of this content is wrong...but what law is it breaking?

    Look at it another way. Let's say I've learnt of someone who gives away burnt CDs. I don't have any myself but but I'm fully aware of how to contact this guy and get freebies. So in conversation I let other's know too. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything and although it may be immoral not to turn the guy in, I'm fully within my rights to share what I know. I'm basically indexing this guy's contact details for other people to obtain. How they use those details is beyond my control.

    Shakey analogy aside, where does protecting copyright end? Shall we go close down a library because a few of the books describe how to perform an illegal act (Shock! Horror! This book describes how someone murdered an innocent! No!)?

    Or am I just getting pissed off and ranting? Probably both to be honest...

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    "...So I hung back and lurked. For 18 months. Can't beat a good old-fashioned lurking."
  7. Hmm by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As long as companies like Adobe justify charging $700 for Photoshop, and rationalize it partially "to make up for the ten people who steal it", I will have no sympathy for companies who lose money to software piracy.

    As long as products like iTunes charge a reasonable price for a reasonable product (both reasonables debatable, but the point stands), I will happily plunk down my $.99 cents per song.

    In other words, don't make me feel like you're screwing me, and I won't feel like I have to screw you back.

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    This comment is my opinion and does not represent an official position of Donald Trump or others I do not work for
  8. Re:"A menace to society" by Frazbin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Making crazy, half cocked, analogies is like driving a cart full of dachsunds through a marshmallow factory.

  9. Re:Ah... edonkey by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not questionable. That's like saying the postal service is "questionable" because illegal things make it into the mail. Is the telephone network questionable because you can call criminals, or plan an illegal activity? Are fricking lightwaves questionable because you can see things you're not supposed to see?

    No, in fact, it's not questionable. Copyright infringement is illegal, therefore illegal stuff has made it into a perfectly normal information conduit. This is not the conduit's fault, it is the fault of the individuals who are putting the material on there.

    End of story.

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    ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
  10. More info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will you give me:
    * The floorplans to the bank?
    * The hours of the guards?
    * Details on the type of security, and escape routes?
    * Instruction for nerve agents to attack the staff with?

    At some point you would be going to far.

    You Imply that the address is not enough, well fine, its not. But there is a line, it can be crossed, and it won't get clarified by bad analogies on slashdot.