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UK Government Confiscates Firefox CDs

Alsee writes "The idea that Free Software can be sold has some government officials perplexed. Times Online has the story. A UK Trading Standards officer contacted the Mozilla Foundation to report catching a business selling copies of Firefox. The organization confiscated the CDs with the intent to prosecute said business. When informed that such distribution was authorized, the officer first expressed disbelief that Free Software could be sold then said 'If Mozilla permit the sale of copied versions of its software, it makes it virtually impossible for us, from a practical point of view, to enforce UK anti-piracy legislation'."

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  1. Re:I love Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where's the (-1, Too Stupid to Correctly make a <)?

  2. No-one expects the British Inquisition ! by cbelt3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    My GOD ! They're giving it away ! How can we control this !

  3. "If your software's free... by Ossifer · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... you're going to put us out of our jobs, I mean, who would we prosecute then??!?!"

    1. Re:"If your software's free... by Ossifer · · Score: 2, Funny

      "The people who violate OSS licenses? How could anybody violate something that's free?!?" ;-)

    2. Re:"If your software's free... by aborchers · · Score: 5, Funny

      Their comment

      "If Mozilla permit the sale of copied versions of its software, it makes it virtually impossible for us, from a practical point of view, to enforce UK anti-piracy legislation"

      reminds me of something I heard once in a meeting at work. A middle manager, upon being told a single, sensible and direct way to solve a problem, blurted out:

      "But we need options so we can make decisions!"

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  4. Free Beer by wwwillem · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone should take this guy to the bar and explain it to him over a 'free beer'.....

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    1. Re:Free Beer by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 3, Funny

      Someone should take this guy to the bar and explain it to him over a 'free beer'.....

      Giving out beer for free is illegal. I am guessing due to some copyright issue with the originating monk.

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  5. Mr. Officer... by SeekerDarksteel · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thise word..."Free Software"...I do not think it means what you think it means.

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  6. And this is why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    The UK goverment should consider an import blockade on banana's.

  7. This is SO funny by jonbeckett73 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does this mean the DTI is going to try and confiscate all boxed copies of Linux for sale in the UK?

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  8. Re:I love Mozilla by tuckerteeth · · Score: 3, Funny

    Junior ministers have already been deployed to find out what the government should do about free software...
    "It goes against the grain to have this sort of thing going on in Great Britain. We've partially dismantled free speech and the freedom of movement. We will need to review what can be done to combat this new threat." (quote was made up).

  9. The real problem is by osgeek · · Score: 3, Funny

    Government official: Must... apply... thought... to... job..... Must... think... *ugh* outside... of... the... box... *gah*.

  10. Re:I love Mozilla by Mike+Savior · · Score: 1, Funny

    In that case... what a cute bum.

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  11. Re:submitter: RTFA by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 2, Funny

    upon uncountering the "suspicious" distributor, he first contacted the copyright owner

    RTFA yourself:
    A little while ago, I received an e-mail from a lady in the Trading Standards department of a large northern town

  12. Re:Not the first time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Litter is British slang for prostitutes.

  13. Re:Licenses by Raven42rac · · Score: 3, Funny

    Free as in speech, not as in beer. You CAN sell "free software" Look at the packaged linux distros. English cops=n00bs. RTFM bobbies.

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  14. Paradox days by Devir · · Score: 2, Funny

    first we get a computer that runs without running, now we get people selling free software, for money.

  15. Re:Licenses by Uber+Banker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hehe,

    Everyone who buys it is reducing load on the download servers and mirrors
    I download one copy for every copy i burn.

    Those who actually offer some added value will sell better. This encourages Firefox development (in the same way that Red Hat, Mantiva, Novell, IBM and many others have contributed to Linux).
    I only sell it to Microsoft employees who promise to burn every copy.

    In many places, offering a product for sale implies a certain amount of warantee which cannot be disclaimed, on the part of the seller (lemon laws, etc). This gives consumers leverage by which to demand things like security updates, which further incents distributors to participate in Firefox development.
    I tell them the security update warnings are spammers, and that I won't update it for them.

    Many people in the world with very slow, noisy connections to the Internet cannot reasonably download something as large as Firefox.
    I give them Opera.

    For every dollar (or Euro or Pound) spent on Firefox CDs, there is more measurable sale of open source software.
    Sales are unregistered with tax, etc, authorities.

    Overseas sales will encourage better regionalization enhancements.
    If someone from overseas orders a copy, I send them an empty box.

    Since you can download it for free, those purchasing it are likely people who would NOT have used Firefox otherwise (perhaps they just don't trust free software, or perhaps they would not have come acorss it other than on a shelf).
    To encourage sales, I have a large advert in my shop window stating that the MD5 sums on Mozilla's website are incorrect because Mozilla is an increasing target of hackers and they regularly hack the site and put malicious copies in the place of genuine copies. Only I have genuine copies, only I, only for $50.99.

    I have too much time on mu hands, you insensitive clod!

  16. Re:Licenses by VolciMaster · · Score: 4, Funny
    unless you have MoFo's permission.

    Man, there's a particularly unfortunate abbreviation.

  17. Re: NOW it's a quote. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "It goes against the grain to have this sort of thing going on in Great Britain. We've partially dismantled free speech and the freedom of movement. We will need to review what can be done to combat this new threat."

  18. Re:Not the first time by stevied · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do you want to explain to them what a "lay by" is, as well? ;-)

  19. Re:Licenses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unfortunately awesome, maybe.

  20. Re:Licenses by that+_evil+_gleek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe, they should have explained as shareware, but you only have to pay $0 to register it ;-]
    (and you don't have to register it )

  21. Re:Licenses by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nah,
    Validation Department. Now there's an unfortunate abbreviation.
    We changed our name to Design Validation Lab shortly after.
    -nB

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  22. Re:Licenses by jokewallpaper · · Score: 5, Funny
    Check out www.MoFo.com http://www.mofo.com/

    The big law firm of Morrison & Foerster..."Over one thousand lawyers worldwide"

    That's a lot of mo fos

  23. Re:Licenses by budgenator · · Score: 4, Funny
    Actulay it's also a law firm
    With more than a thousand lawyers in nineteen offices around the world, Morrison & Foerster offers clients comprehensive, global legal services in business and litigation. The firm is distinguished by its unsurpassed expertise in finance, life sciences, and technology, legendary litigation skills, and an unrivaled reach across the Pacific Rim, particularly in Japan and China. We have one compelling mission: to deliver success for our clients.
    Morrison & Foerster.
    Attorney A "Who are we up against?"
    Attorney B "It's the MoFo's."
    Attorney A "That just great!"
    I guess if you need an attorney, you'll want one that's a real MoFo.
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  24. Re:Licenses by operagost · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not enough. Apparently, you also need a paperclip.

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  25. Re:Slashdot: News for Nerds. Stuff that ... by Eightyford · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I read a story about something interesting on, say, the BBC's technology pages, I know it'll probably hit /. in a few hours, or at worst a couple of days, and once it does there'll be Interesting Discussion.

    And more often than not it will hit slashdot again a week later too.

  26. Re:Not the first time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Also, "picking up" is British slang for buggering.

  27. Re:What they mean to say is.... by bckrispi · · Score: 2, Funny
    Maybe some of these people don't have a net connection...

    Hell of a lot of good Firefox is going to do them in that case!

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  28. Re:Slashdot: News for Nerds. Stuff that ... by pimpimpim · · Score: 2, Funny

    And with a bit of luck, people that missed the discussion on slashdot the first time still get the change to read a similar discussion when the dupe is posted a few days later ;)

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  29. Proper response by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 2, Funny

    The proper response to her "virtually impossible" comment would be "Ummm, and as copyright holders that's our problem how again?". :)