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SCO Denied Again In Court
CDWalton writes "Groklaw has the latest in the SCO v. IBM case. Judge Wells denied SCO the opportunity to get depositions from involved parties after the date she had specified as the cutoff for those activities." From the article: "Brent Hatch started out talking about the request to take the depositions of Intel, Oracle, and The Open Group. Judge Wells brought up her October 12, 2005 order and said that depositions MUST be completed by the cutoff date. That any that cannot be taken by that date must be forgone. Brent stated that they properly noticed the depositions before the cutoff date and that they were not taken for reasons outside his, or his client's, control ... Judge Wells asked if the subpeonas were defective in some manner. Hatch: Yes, they were."
Because lawyers get paid by the hour. That's why.
The legal system is full of loopholes, extensions, exceptions, and other silly rules that are designed to cover up for inadequecies in other laws. This helps to give everyone a fair chance by providing an abundance of opportunities to get justice, but as a result, the cockroaches that are running from the light have plenty of dark corners to hide for awhile. It usually delays the inevetable, but in some cases if they stall for time long enough it can work out in their favor. Though it also can mean the farther you lift the hammer in the air, the harder it hits when at last it lands. I'm looking forward to SCO getting "nailed". It will be entertaining to watch their entire world suddenly collapse in on itself under the weight of justice, as the last of their shoddy bracing gives way at once.
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
I think the fact that SCO is able to drag it's feet is result of the inefficiency of the system. SCO has so far not been asked to make a specific accusation yet for gods sake. They have changed their complaint mid stream too. How is that not inefficient?
SCO started out this case by making a copyright violation accusation. Nobody is the court system said "which copyright, when and how?". During the pre-trial phase (more then two years!!!!!) they dropped that complaint and went on to other complaints.
Why hasn't anybody asked SCO what bits of unix they own, what pieces SCO alleges Ibm stole. They still haven't said what IBM stole form them.
Finally. Novell claims they own UNIX, not SCO. SHouldn't that case be settled first? If SCO does not own unix then this whole case has been a wasted time.
evil is as evil does
Their ability to drag their feet is not really an inefficiency in the system. The delays are perhaps abuses of the system. The system itself will run as efficiently as the parties want it to. Given willing and cooperative parties, justice can be dispensed very quickly. In this case, SCO doesn't want to move the case forward as they know it is a loser. They seem to be hoping that they can keep hanging around long enough that someone will pay them off to go away and they can declare victory. They don't seem to be willing to read the tea leaves here as it seems clear that IBM is not going to bite.
Jesus jiminy cricket on a rocket-powered pogo stick!
Why aren't these SCO assholes and their coconspirators behind bars already?
This is ridiculous! - Since this SCO thing started, Martha Stewart traded stocks, got indicted, lied to investigators, got tried, found guilty, sentanced, finished her sentence, and returned to public life, and they can't even get this worthless SCO thing through depositions so they can decide it needs to be tossed out of court?
And they wonder why people think the court system is broken in this country.
These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
From the article:
1. "...the January 12th subpoena was defective in both substance and service." The subpoena is a document compelling the other side to show up at a deposition with certain documents, ready to talk about certain topics. Its substance was basically its content, what it was intended to communicate. The service is the procedure by which the document creator gives it to the target person (organization) in a legally effective way. The judge says the subpoena was defective in both characteristics, so it's not legally binding.
2. "...That even had it not been defective it provided inadequate notice and time.
Judges like to give 2nd reasons, when available, for their decisions, out of meticulousness (which is a good thing in a judge) or desire to forestall appeals (not a bad thing). Here, the judge is saying that even if she was wrong about point #1, the subpoena is no good because it didn't fulfill legal requirements as to the amount of time before the deposition that the subpoena has to be delivered, and warning (notice) about the content of the deposition. Ideally, depositions are not supposed to be occasions for surprising witnesses with weird questions, but a Search For The Truth, so witnesses are supposed to be given fair notice & time to prepare.
3. "[the judge's] October 12th orders were clear, not subject to unilateral decisions to violate."
TRANSLATED: the judge is really, really pissed. SCO's lawyers are giving totally bogus arguments, in her evaluation, which not only needlessly delays this particular case, but also strikes at the integrity of the entire judicial process.
It appears from this article that SCO believes its only hope would seem to be to bait the judge into saying or doing something stupid, like Judge Jackson in the Microsoft case a few years back.
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