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India Tops Target List For Spam

Ant wrote to mention a ZDNet news report on the realities of spam traffic. The U.S. is still the number one producer/distributor of spam in the world. However, with their quick adoption of technology over the last few years, Indian users are now top targets for spam. From the article: "India's rapid adoption of new technology has left its PC users struggling to cope with very high levels of spam, according to a report released Wednesday. Ninety-one percent of email traffic sent to Indian PC users is spam, according to email security company MessageLabs, which warned that the rate of technological advancement has outstripped growth in security awareness. 'There is booming technology in India, but it has been suggested there is little thought for security, which creates a market to exploit that,' said Paul Wood, security analyst at MessageLabs."

107 comments

  1. Who's really surprised? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Asians are afflicted with smaller than average penises. It makes sense to target them with appropriate spam.

    It's a huge growing market over there. In more ways than one!

    1. Re:Who's really surprised? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      I wonder if they're getting emails with

      Hello! I've got a wonderful business opportunity for you. I have a large sum of money stuck in a bank account. If you can send me $$$ I can compensate you 4x time that when I get my funds released....

      or something to that affect. I wonder if the address to mail the money to is now in the US rather than somewhere in India?

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    2. Re:Who's really surprised? by middlemen · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Not only that. Since porn and strip bars are illegal in India (moral police!) even nude Britney Spears emails will be opened, because a lot of Indians are sexually desperate (too many engineers in the country eh?). I have been in India for 5 years and that is the hard truth.

    3. Re:Who's really surprised? by anshubansal2000 · · Score: 1

      Hello Mr.Middlemen!! I agree with you that there r too many Software engineers..I also admit that they r sexually desperate. Now let me explain you the reason behind this. Actually they never get chance easily to mate someone...do u know why?? because cultural values are still alive in their hearts... And this is not the fact in other countries..Like may be in your case..I can bet that even you wont know the name of your father??? Am I rite????? Also I can bet that you still dont know where is your father and Mother living...and its the fact in Western countries....Because no Guardian takes care of themselves thats why they used to have sex and alcohal all the time and nothing is more important then money for them....Got it!!! Also the literacy rate in Western countries is so poor that I can laugh on that...:)) all are doing shit jobs..like cleaning and labour jobs.. So next time when you comment any asian community. remember my words.. Cheers and think wat I said Anshu Bansal

    4. Re:Who's really surprised? by c_forq · · Score: 1

      Wow. I did not realize there were so incredibly wrong stereotypes of Westerners. I really hope that jumbled mess is supposed to be sarcastic or it is a failed joke.

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    5. Re:Who's really surprised? by theturtlemoves · · Score: 1

      You wish. This is a really common Indian view. I know, I grew up in India.

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    6. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why do americans have to prove again and again, how frustrated they are?
      so, which country are you going to invade next?!! :))

    7. Re:Who's really surprised? by middlemen · · Score: 1

      Actually your email explains it all. The lack of sex education in India and the fact that Indians have a very "holier than thou" attitude towards the Westerners is the major cause of the anger expressed in your email. Sex is a good thing, it is a natural thing. Why you have to explicitly associate it with Westerners I am never able to comprehend, considering the fact that India has an over-burgeoning population of 1 billion and still growing. You talk about literacy rate but how many of Indians actually go to school ? Do you have statistics ? No! You can only rant against a truthful observation that I made because it is the truth. There is no difference between you and the politicians of India because all you are doing is running away from the truth and preventing people from fixing the problem. Get off your ass reading slashdot and do something about it. It is not that Western countries don't have their flaws. You come and live in a western country, the flaws will be visible to you. But if you cannot see the flaws in your own country, that is a shame. No one is perfect, but perfection can be strived for.

    8. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heck, I really hope that jumbled mess is supposed to be intentional, but I know it isn't so. Most Indians write that way these days; I find it extremely annoying (I'm Indian too, so I have to endure this crap more than you have to).
      Consider for example the way he uses "r", "rite" and "wat", and "!!!" and "???" everywhere — although I'm sure he was taught properly in school, he probably thinks it's cooler to spell incorrectly. Worse, most of them write in a stream-of-consciousness style, with hardly any well-formed sentences to speak of. It's probably the effect of SMS (text messaging) and IM, but I'm not sure.
      Come to think of it, that's how most of the world writes these days (on the internet), anyway....

    9. Re:Who's really surprised? by nutz-13 · · Score: 1

      I mean really......... who says stuff like that.
      oh, let me guess, only people with serious issues with
      getting it up, if by chance up, geting in to do the job guy!!!

      On a serious note, do u really believe that people are living
      on road along side elephants!! wake up buddy before you
      loose the new job you got!!

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    10. Re:Who's really surprised? by middlemen · · Score: 1

      Yes, you are right. English grammar is going to the dogs everywhere. I have seen it in India and I have seen it in USA. Slangs are used more than often especially in written English. Oh what happened to the good old days of written English ? I have not encountered any British written emails with bad grammar yet.

    11. Re:Who's really surprised? by dustmite · · Score: 1

      Wow ... ridiculously ignorant cultural stereotypes - not just for whites anymore!

    12. Re:Who's really surprised? by anshubansal2000 · · Score: 1

      Mr.Middleman...I think ur slashdot id suggested that in fact u r a middleman...... :)) I hope if you will deeply analyse the meanin of Middleman..u'll b embarrased.... Middleman suggests that A_MAN_HAS_NO_END...(neither F nor M)...By the way, I m really disappointed bout ur comments on Indians... you gotta some kind of problem with Indian..may be when u been in India, u hav been humilized..I dont know.. Also I wud like to state that here we r not gathered for spelling and sentences....everybody is using slangs these days..especially in Britain...I can imagine tat u never been there tats why u r saying that... First, be in England for a while then u gonna see where the English language goin on????

    13. Re:Who's really surprised? by dodobh · · Score: 1

      A middleman is someone who does not produce, not consume, but routes a product or service from a producer to a consumer. Someone like a shopkeeper, or a broker.

      And no, not all Indians are bad at English. And your comments about the western world were stupid and ignorant. Perhaps you need to learn more about how the world really is.

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    14. Re:Who's really surprised? by nutz-13 · · Score: 1

      And your point is?
      Somebdy plz hlp me undrstnd how dis is relevant (cudnt find shorter version of this) to d topic!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Talk about being off.

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    15. Re:Who's really surprised? by ghoul · · Score: 1

      Going to School != Literate. In the great US of A most students spend their time at school putting on mini fashion shows and playing sports. They get promoted from grade to grade even if they have not learnt anything so as to not hurt their sense of self worth. In the end they end up working retail, fast food or if their parents have contacts Management. All 3 of these pretty much need no more skills than looking pretty and being able to talk the good talk. The really hard jobs whether they need hard physical labour like gardening or hard mental labour like Engineering is done by cheap immigrants.
      The US is good at one thing and that is marketing the US as the best place in the world. Once that is done the rest takes care of it itslef. The best people from all over the world make a desperate beeline for the US and once they are here they work hard and cheap and keep this country running. Its a different matter that their children who are US born citizens are again more interested in having a good time than actually studying which is why this country needs immigration in every generation to keep it running.
      It is like the biggest Ponzi scheme ever but as long as theri are new suckers (immigrants) falling for the scheme this country will stay on top. And oh when we have too many of these useless youth to be absorbed by Walmart or Middle Management we start a war from time to time to send these extra youth off to get rid of them.
      Its actually a pretty good system for the American born. It is like a world wide colony the only difference being instead of sending raw goods the colonies educate, train and send their best people to the colonial master the US.
      The funny thing is this only works because the US makes it so hard for immigrants to come in that only the best get in. If the US was actually welcoming to immigrants the days of living off the backs of immigrant labor would be over

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    16. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please read properly; I was the AC who made the remarks about English, not middlemen.
      I am from India, and a patriotic Indian at that. I find it shameful that many of you idiots from my country insist on writing so badly. I don't care how the British write, all I care about is that you write like an incoherently babbling jackass. Why do you have to use three question marks everywhere when one will do? Why can't you take the effort to write "you" instead of "u"? Why does your comment not have a single sentence? (Everything ends with "...")
      What school did you go to? I'm sure that when you were in school, your English was much better than it is now.
      People will pay more attention, and will understand you better, if you write more clearly. Otherwise, you won't be able to make any point, and you'll be giving all of us a bad name.

      I wrote about the English issue because I care about it; I won't even go into your ridiculous stereotypes. All I can say is this — if, for whatever reason, people are sexually desperate, it is not a good thing.

    17. Re:Who's really surprised? by anshubansal2000 · · Score: 1

      Hiya! Yes! u r rite...Mr.Middleman..seems 2 me tat u hav done lots of research on India..Nice!! but will suggest that if u hav done this on your home country then u wud be more surprised then I.. the growing population of Old People and decreasing population of youngsters. Their own children show then their ass and and say the old people that you said to me before.. and government had to take care of them..m i rite?? Also I admit that there is lots of illetracy in India but I can say that still there r more Graduates then any other country in world.. Am I rite..?? Also I would like to say that if in a city there will be only 4 person and 5th one will take care then the system itself will be strong and there will be more resources..which is not the case in India that why the system is bad and people like me r workin for that... So mind your words next time.. Cheers

    18. Re:Who's really surprised? by PsychoMcCrazy · · Score: 1

      Hey come on man Anshu, have a perspective. I have been born and brought up In India, and I know that there is a BIG difference between India and the Western countries. Our culture is much more conservative than their's, but you have a very stereo-typical view of the western society, perhaps because of too many hollywood movies. Now while I am not saying that middlemen is absolutely right, (he also has a slightly stereotypical view - but who doesn't these days), you are way off the point. Ours is a very conservative society, and it has both positives and negatives.The positive side means that we have more respect for our parents, elders and all, the negative that I am still a virgin at age 22. But this does not mean that western society is totally iresponsible and non-caring. And also, do not abuse someone so vocally, I am surprised how your comment has a positive score. PS. @ middlemen Too many engineers... yeah moral policing.. yeah sexual desperation... yeah but still, not all "nude britney spears" mails are opened ;) And as far as the Spam target No. 1 India is concerned, faster than light expansion of IT with the freedom of www. what else will happen???

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    19. Re:Who's really surprised? by ghoul · · Score: 1

      Okay who is this person. Shes not Indian coz I have never met an Indian with such bad English. Either must be a Pakistani or a product of the American education system where reading means listening to audio books and writing is copying articles of the internet.
      Okay there are a lot of Indian Engineers desperate to get some pussy but the reason is life in India is tough and guys who make it to Engineering college give more priority to making a career than getting pussy.
      See Indian guys know once they have their careers made they can pick the best pussy they want in the arranged marriage scene. Frankly on this particular front the Americans have it harder as they have to compete hard from an early age to have any chance of ending up with some acceptable pussy and this does take their concentration away from studies. No wonder they are falling behind in Science and Engineering.
      If the US wants to blame anything for the fall in Science and Engineering levels they can blame Womens lib not Outsourcing. Outsourcing is a result not a cause.
      Sure Womens lib gave us a few extra women Engineers and Scientists but it also bloated the heads of all the other girls who were never really qualified to be anything but housewives and as a result they have become so high maintenance a lot of men opt out of time consuming careers in Science and Engineering and opt for Management and Marketing where taking the wife out to a cocktail dinner counts as working and networking.
      Sure go ahead and call me a Male Chauvinist Pig but remember before Women's lib the US was on the top in science and Engineering.

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    20. Re:Who's really surprised? by ghoul · · Score: 1

      I would much rather have a society where the kiddies are desperate for sex and porn than one where 13 year old girls turn up pregnant all the time. Maybe a little conservatism is not such a bad thing.

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    21. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello i am bill clinton , and we the americans are not sexually desperate.

    22. Re:Who's really surprised? by middlemen · · Score: 1

      India is my home country. I have lived for 22 years there. I think I made a mistake in one of my earlier emails when I wrote 5 years. I was born and brought up in India, I did my schooling and college education there and now I work in a different country.

    23. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hello everybody
      this is your GOD speaking (writing?)....please stop hating each other and commenting about each others' dick sizes, otherwise i'll take out that little stick from man version 2.

    24. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent post says "illetracy".

      The word is illiteracy, and based on your postings in this topic, you seem to suffer from it.

      For the love of deity, get a spell checker and learn to compose coherent sentences.

    25. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me ask you a simple question. If the immigrants(indians included) are the people who made US a economic superpower, then why is it that their native countries are still in third-world status? Lets assume that 30% of the brightest people in India immigrated to the US and they are the ones who helped America become a economic giant. Then why isn't India surging ahead of the US with the rest 70% of these "brightest minds" ?? You think most of the youth in america are working in wal-mart? Get a clue. Remember the Wal-mart "hiring illegal immigrants" story?? And what are the youth in india doing? Driving taxis? You are deluded dude. The "holier than thou" attitude of the indians is soo pathetic. Look around you.

    26. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm Indian, and the way you write English is a fucking disgrace to the whole country. Grow up, get an education, and follow it.

    27. Re:Who's really surprised? by TheWingThing · · Score: 1

      But I bet you'd never be one of those millions of graduates, with such language skills.

    28. Re:Who's really surprised? by XchristX · · Score: 0, Troll

      While I agree with you that spelling like a three year old is a bad thing, you have to admit grandparent has a point. The truth of the matter is that the racist tirades against Indians on slashdot is a manifestation of Wagnerian ideologies among white christians, who see Indians as little more than trained monkeys who don't belong in their professions. This is particularly true among the Ulster-Scott-Irish derived Americans (most americans are of Scott-Irish descent), themselves of poor breeding even among westerners. Their crude behaviour, violent lifestyles, alcoholic excesses, obsession with killing and guns, and their criminal tendencies are a result of that breeding.

      They are conditioned by their families and communities to believe that white christians are chosen by god to rule the earth, and anybody who challenges this claim should be summarily murdered. Whenever any ethnic group tries to work their way up in the world, they see a threat to their perceived entitlement and superiority.

      White society in America is rigidly stratified in terms of race, with white anglo-saxon protestants seen as the highest race. Others, such as Catholics, Slavs, Mediterraneans, Ashkenazy/Mizrahi Jews, Arabs etc. seen as inferior white races, and Hispanics, African-Americans, South Asians, East Asians and miscellaneous other groups seen as "mud people". Basically we are not seen by these people as human at all, but simulcra of human beings created by the Abrahamic satan with the intent of "putting down the white man".

      So you see, the Bharatiyas are not the first ones to go through this. In fact, there have even been other white races who have had to suffer discrimination and hate attacks from these people because they were perceived as "racially inferior whites", as noted above. The treatment of Jewish people in America has been particularly bad, with widespread antisemetism and Judenhass in many parts of America making life very difficult for these poor people.


      The good news is that they are losing. America is becoming increasingly more multicultural, and the political influence of minority lobbies is greater now than ever before. More and more White americans are rejecting this kind of hate and turning away from their jaundiced roots.

      I don't know whether enlightenment will come to the world in time for our people or not. I read a lot about the past history of the Jews in Europe and North America and wonder if that might be our future. Whether Indian Hindus would be next in line for white christian pogroms and gas chambers. Don't think that this cannot happen. All the signs are there. The traditional path of racial hatred among white christians usually takes this route. Already, the blood libels against Indians have started (see slashdot forum posts).

      If that is to be the case, it is vitally important that out cultural solidarity remain strong and intact. We must not miscegenate or diasporise into these foreign socities and we must not allow them to dilute our traditions and our heritage. Our unity should be our greatest strength, as should be our will to survive. If we stay together as one, we can weather this storm until the western world evolves past their bestial tendencies, or they destroy themselves with their nuclear bombs.


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    29. Re:Who's really surprised? by chichchaaa · · Score: 1

      Do you how to write in hindi? And just for you... one more time.....?????

    30. Re:Who's really surprised? by jma05 · · Score: 1

      As an Indian in the west, I actually quite like the west and it's values. It is just too hard for the bright to do their work in India. The bureaucracy and corruption slows everything down. I was just blown away at the intellectual freedom and opportunity in my first year here.

      I do however think that life in US is too easy. I can work in Walmart or McDonald's with no skills at all and expect to get all my basic needs answered and even be respected. Not enough motivation to push the limits. Of course, I am not implying that it is a bad thing.

      The 'holier than thou' attitute is usually restricted to Indians who have never seen the west first hand. Remember that Indians were subjected to anti-west propaganda and nationalism in the cold war era. The effect is waning but the shadow still exists.

    31. Re:Who's really surprised? by modecx · · Score: 1

      Oh, so are those strong cultural values the reason that India has one of the fastest growing AIDS infection rates in the world, and the largest population infected with AIDS? Are strong values the reason that an ever growing number of monogamous and loyal wives are becoming infected with AIDS by their husbuands? Are strong values the reason for the ever increasing use of drugs in India?

      You know what India is? It's a nation of denial and cultural repression. You all can foam about the mouths because of what I said, but I don't give a shit. You might think we "Westeners" are fucked up, but you've got some pretty good problems also.

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    32. Re:Who's really surprised? by BeanThere · · Score: 2, Informative

      Where do you get this crap? India has a pretty low HIV rate, and per capita is actually very close the HIV rate in the US.

    33. Re:Who's really surprised? by anshubansal2000 · · Score: 1

      Dear Wingthing....I am glad to say tat I am above then these millions of Grads..The language u talkin about is the lang of internet.. I hop u never get ny chance to chat.... Seeya!

    34. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, that is not the language of the internet. That is the language of children on the internet that are ignored by those of us that have something meaningful to say and wish to communicate it properly.

      Feel free to learn your lesson at any time.

    35. Re:Who's really surprised? by modecx · · Score: 1

      Where do I get my crap? Hmmm...

        http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/press/1997/DECEMBER /199708.htm/
      http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-02-23-aid s-india-cover_x.htm?csp=34
      http://qa.aidsmatters.org/answer/13479/
      http://indiatogether.org/2005/jun/ksh-blaming.htm
      http://www.youandaids.org/Asia%20Pacific%20at%20a% 20Glance/India/index.asp
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3886883.stm
      http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/08/60minute s/main610961.shtml

      Maybe they do have a very low per capita incidince of HIV, but it's been shown that the rate of infection is increasing at a rate more than any other country. Combined with the sheer number of people, infected and not, the virus is set to explode. Sorry, I can't find the particular article in which I read this at this moment, but when I do find it, I'll be happy to share. Everywhere I've read, it's extremely taboo for Indians to discuss sex and AIDS.

      I don't think the numbers you link to tell the story very well. It's like trying to say that Luxemborg has a larger economy than the US because thier GDP per capita is 60% higher than ours, which is obviously not the case. Compare China and India. They're the only two countries that are close enough to be comparable in popluation and economic status. The CIA world factbook (the source of information that Nationmaster uses) says that 0.9% of Indians are infected, that 0.6% of US citizens are infected, and that 0.1% of Chinese are infected, and that there are about six times the number of Indians infected as there are Chinese, despite China having a third of a million more people (i.e. approximately one United States more people than India).

      My point to the poster I replied to was that Indians get it on like nobody's business. I stand by it.

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    36. Re:Who's really surprised? by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      That BBC article confuses the notion of "rate" with "absolute number":

      The world's second most populous country has one of the highest infection rates - and more than five million HIV/Aids cases.

      I think you are making the same mistake; having a large number of HIV cases is only to be expected when you have such an incredibly huge population. The rest of the articles make the same mistake ... looking at a large absolute figure and concluding that it's all "really really terrible". But five million, although a lot of people and a horrible tragedy, is tiny when taking the population size into consideration. If you want to say that Indians are "worse" with HIV (in terms of being supposedly hypocritical about their values, as you suggest) then you have to use the per capita rates, not the absolute number (unlike your economics article). I live in a country with around a 25% HIV infection rate and the largest absolute number of infected people (over 10 million in a population of only 44 million compared to India's 1.something billion) ... so sorry to say but 0.9% sounds miniscule to me, if you think India has a problem with its values you should come here.

    37. Re:Who's really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Abe Bansal, jaa apni bansi choos. Sale choot ke dhakkan.

    38. Re:Who's really surprised? by modecx · · Score: 1

      See, now we're just arguing over semantics. I agree, India's AIDS per capita rate is low for a country so big. I also expect that their numbers would be very large. I don't think India is a bad place, with deprived values or anything like that. I've never disagreed with these things. I was simply using HIV, and that bit of information that the % growth of HIV in India was increasing substantially in the last few year as a tool to illustrate to the GGGGP that just maybe their average social values aren't what they appear to be on the surface (because of social taboos, or whatever), and that India isn't a some kind of panacea. Nothing more. He/she was cocking about with the whole westerners are rich white devil monkeys, and our values are clearly better than theirs because we know who our parents are, because we don't fuck around routine...

      Anyway, it sucks that whatever country you're in (South Africa, I'm guessing?) has been hit so hard by this stupid virus. It's a travesty wherever it hits, there can be no doubt. I guess I'll go stfu now.

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  2. Re:Elsewhere in the article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does one thing have to do with the other? How does having viruses in the UAE hinder the running of a port?

  3. Hmm ... by LizardKing · · Score: 1

    Appropriate, considering that a large proportion of the spam I receive is about "offshoring oppportunities" in India.

    1. Re:Hmm ... by MalHavoc · · Score: 1

      I wonder if people living in India get spam about offshoring their company to India?

  4. A bit late for that. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

    the rate of technological advancement has outstripped growth in security awareness

    That happened the first time one of our grandmothers got a computer "to look at the online." The day computers outgrew the subset of the population who knew everything about how to use them safely is long past.

    1. Re:A bit late for that. by yintercept · · Score: 1
      That happened the first time one of our grandmothers got a computer

      I thought it happened the first time a business major looked into the engineering department to see the flashing lights on that computer thingy that everyone was talking about.

      Of course, if we looked into history, we probably would find tricked out abacuses in ancient China.

      The interesting thing here is that US computer knowledge has evolved along with the evolution of computer threats. Many people in India are getting their introduction of computers with the garbage running full throttle. It will be interesting to see if this baptism by fire makes a more sophosticated computer user. The American view is that with each innovation, the slimebags of the world would come up with a new way to violate privacy and trust. The view in India might be that the whole thing is a large landmine field with a hundred tricks and pitfalls at every turn.

  5. Wo-ho! US banking spam by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Funny
    Ha! Turnabout is fair play. MY NAME IS JOHN SMITH AND I WAS REFERRED TO YOU BY A CLOSE FRIEND...FOR YOUR PART WE WOULD PAY YOU 30 BILLION(s) IN RUPEES...

    Hehe. Come on, let's get started! How do you say "penis pills" in Hindi?

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    1. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by middlemen · · Score: 1

      Hehe. Come on, let's get started! How do you say "penis pills" in Hindi?

      We say "HangingChad"...

    2. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      How like an american to not know the difference between Nigera and India.

      Turnabout and fairplay indeed. Sheesh.

    3. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by AnonymousPrick · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      I think it would be more profitable to sell the Indians pills that "guaranteed" that they'll have sons. And then another to sell sex dolls for those 20 million men who are unable to find a wife because everyone prefered sons so they had their daughters aborted or whatever.

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    4. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by thej1nx · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Bloody ignorant xenophobic Americans!

      That is Nigerian scam you idiot! Has nothing to do with India.

    5. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      american cluelessness at its finest hunh ?

    6. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by hcob$ · · Score: 1

      I'll take offense to the xenophobic remark... but everything else is dead on. On behalf of the non-moronic Americans, sorry for the scam remark. But you have to admit it's somewhat humorus. Indian-sourced tech help have been helping clean American computers of spam/spyware for years. Guess ya'll will have even more experience to help on those tech calls!

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    7. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by bayankaran · · Score: 1

      Come on, let's get started! How do you say "penis pills" in Hindi?

      Laude Lasoon.

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    8. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by ghoul · · Score: 2, Funny

      You cant sell Penis Enlargement Pills to Indians. Due to ancient Tantric knowledge we already have the biggest dicks in the world.

      Can I now interest you in a set of course of Tantric knowledge on how to enlarge your hmmm ego?? Only 19.95 plus delivery .

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    9. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by metlin · · Score: 1


      Land ki dawai. :p

    10. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How like a non-american to not HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR, and to be mortally and (morally?) offended just because you don't GET IT that it's A FUCKING JOKE. Sheesh.

    11. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      barey bhanchod ho! :)

    12. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by billstewart · · Score: 1

      Dude, maybe you didn't notice, but the Nigerian part's being played by an American in his joke, including not knowing to say 3 crore rupees instead of 30 million ...

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    13. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Dude, Maybe you didn't notice but GP was talking about "Turnabout is fair play":... which means that he thinks Nigerian scams originate from India. Which ofcourse means that he thinks Nigeria is in India :p

      One clueless American makes a stupid lameass joke based on his lack of geography and other clueless Americans find it funny.

    14. Re:Wo-ho! US banking spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      How like an arrogant American to make stupid lameass jokes about a country (which has nothing to do with Nigerian scams btw) and then wonder why the world hates them.

      And how like other stupid americans to find the lameness funny.

  6. Re:Elsewhere in the article: by AnonymousPrick · · Score: 1
    You think that's bad, the UAE is also a huge customer of weapons from, well, you guess.

    From this A: some stats on weapons sales to our "friends" including the UAE: * $2 billion of AMRAAMs, ammunition and bombs to complement a previous $6-8 billion F- 16 fighter jet sale to the United Arab Emirates. The U.A.E. has also demanded the computer coding for the F- 1 6s which would enable it to modify or replicate the jet's intelligence. If the U.A.E. gets the source code, other buyers will be sure to want it too.

    what's sad is that I can't find a list from OUR government.

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  7. AntiSpam software and outdated sendmailers by egnop · · Score: 1

    I guess the truth is out there software, or should I say somewhere...

    It somehow claims to be outdated open-relay-sendmail and could be easily replaced by other software - like some of the rest of the world you have to change and adapt to common evolutions, or could it be that this is a commercial stunt on selling Anti-Spam software...

    1. Re:AntiSpam software and outdated sendmailers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best use is to use AntiSpam software that works and are relaible.

      Spam will always be there as many unethical marketers push teh same sort of "offers" that they have been conned into selling.

      If you want one that helps, send email and refer others to this email.
      [Mail to: SpamDemolish@spamarrest.com] and you will get the details immediately.
        Spammers should learn how to market their "wares" ethically as there are buyers who may need what they sell(some are very competitve markets so they must learn to do something different that no one else does.)

      Here is one great demanding product and lots of services that many people want..use this idea, learn for free ethical marketing, High commissions paid, 100% guarantees for products and services if not satisfied, ull support given......http://www.mobiles-3g.2u.co.uk/join/ (for US, UK and few others).

      Thank you
      Do refer others to this email.
      Your Friend in need.

    2. Re:AntiSpam software and outdated sendmailers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the reasons is rampant usage of pirated software, with Pirated software one would get basic software, but as the security vulnerabilities are closed or updated via patches, the software goes out of sync and exposing these computers to be hacked. So it is easier to get through spam, get the worm crawling and perhaps to phish the person (internet banking still has to catch on. . so I dont suspect much of phishing but still it is a distant possibility).

      Targeting India may have many reasons, probably most of the SPAM is related to Porn or have some adult related content, targetting much younger demographics would make sense.

  8. I Don't Believe It But, Hell Yea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don;t believe the statistics. But, with everything else being outsourced to India, including nucular materials, I think it only fitting that spam be sent there too!

    1. Re:I Don't Believe It But, Hell Yea! by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      > Ninety-one percent of email traffic sent to Indian PC users is spam

      That's about the same for me on my oldest (10+ years) email that sits on mailing lists and the like.

      But ...

      Go online .. find email usless .. don't bother with email ...

      The asymptote of ham to spam for that cycle is 100% spam.

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      There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
  9. When will it end?! by Zarxrax · · Score: 2, Funny

    First they take our tech jobs, and now they are taking our spam! Is there no end to this madness?!

    1. Re:When will it end?! by Billosaur · · Score: 1
      First they take our tech jobs, and now they are taking our spam! Is there no end to this madness?!

      If you think that's madness, you just wait till they have more nukes than we do.

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  10. Spam doesn't go over well in India... by digitaldc · · Score: 1, Funny

    How ironic that 'India Tops Target List For Spam' when 70% of India's population are vegetarians.

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    1. Re:Spam doesn't go over well in India... by digitaldc · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      70% of the world's vegetarians live in India, rather...

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    2. Re:Spam doesn't go over well in India... by v1k · · Score: 1

      From the wikipedia article you linked: "Indian vegetarians ... are estimated to make up more than 70% of the world's vegetarians. They make up 20 to 30% of the population in India..."

    3. Re:Spam doesn't go over well in India... by yourdeadin · · Score: 1

      me is a veggy too!!1:D me is from india too Are all veggys from india??

  11. Microsoft has a creative solution by dingen · · Score: 1

    In response, Microsoft India is trying to sell their stuff to illiterate people. Smart move. Customers who can't read spam aren't bothered by it.

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    Pretty good is actually pretty bad.
    1. Re:Microsoft has a creative solution by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      In response, Microsoft India is trying to sell their stuff to illiterate people. Smart move. Customers who can't read spam aren't bothered by it.

      ASCII art of penis pills along with before and after illustrations isn't that hard. However, if they don't use fixed-pitched fonts, it might look like a warped cucumber. Breast enlargers may be easier.

            (.)(.)

  12. Source of the Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Source of the Spam ... the neighboring country of PacketSpam.

    1. Re:Source of the Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There wouldn't be any spam from there. Why? Well if they had their way, e.g. by removing Musharraf, the only people with computers in Pakistan would be the mullahs, spreading their brand of peace over the web while their general populace are subdued with Sharia.

    2. Re:Source of the Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well if they had their way, e.g. by removing Musharraf, the only people with computers in Pakistan would be the mullahs, spreading their brand of peace over the web while their general populace are subdued with Sharia.

      Right! Bet you talked the same way about saddam too! :)

      Cheering and supporting dictators, while it suits you. How American of you!

    3. Re:Source of the Spam by Connectmc · · Score: 1

      While apologizing for all the other knee-jerk (jerk being the operative word) reactions of fellow Indians ranting about Musharraf and the like, I'd like to formally say :
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO on the best pun on a country's name I've seen in ages! sniff... sniff.... [wipes eyes].... HAHAHAHAHA !

  13. Indians ARE Asians... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look on a map.

    1. Re:Indians ARE Asians... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He said 'asians' you dolt. Learn to read before coming to slashdot.

  14. Off-topic Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You guys do know that Hollywood and New York (ABC, NBC, ABC, Turner, etc..) are doing an end run, eh?

    You do understand the implications of big three (Comcast, Bell(s), and Verision) will be charging content providers access to their customers, eh? By doing so, they effectively consolidate RIAA, MPAA, etc... as sole providers of content.

    You guys do understand that the only secure computer is a terminal and I guess you know that removing the ability to compile is a key part of IP protection?

    You guys to realize the anti-competitive environment planned on by

    You guys do realize that you're being stabbed in the back by corporate suits wearing sheeps' clothing, eh? You know that the liberal party (to a lesser extent both, there is much to say about both) welds demographics and psychology as a weapon, eh?

    Until you guys straighten up a bit and level off for a while (instead of being useful idiots, these kinds of folk will eventually win). The sooner you guys figure out and can see that the only thing they seek is the death of all things, the better off we are (it should be common sense, like knowing that you'll get burnt by putting you hand on a red hot element).

    You guys do realize that feminism is mostly not benevolent. That it has killed 100,000's of children in selectively handing out UN medicine of women and girls only. That women assume responsibility for child rearing because she has a choice. That shared custody means that you are only responsible for the child while he or she is under your roof. That twice as many men die from prostrate cancer as women dying from breast cancer (a doctor once said, "You'll either die with it or from it"). That divorce laws haven't really changed it 150 years. That blacks families were on par with whites less then 50 years ago (liberal dogma destroyed the family resulting in gangs and violence or that same solution is knowingly being instituted across the globe (do you know your party's history?)). Tax funded lobby groups are the way to go. That domestic violence is 50/50 or that more men seek medical treatment because of DV than women. That spousal homicide is and has been 50/50 for the last 45 years. That men are a minority and are at greatest risk in this country. Did you know that men learning to say No is a bad thing, or that legal ramifications are kept out of sex ed for that purpose.

    Think critically, think clearing, question authority and know that your inclusion is given and not earned, speak your mind. Don't get angry, get smart. Live free or die.

    WAR!!!

  15. Little thought for security? by MrNougat · · Score: 1

    There is booming technology in India, but it has been suggested there is little thought for security, which creates a market to exploit that.

    I wonder if the "little thought for security" also applies to the call centers there, who have access to at least some customer information, certainly including email addresses, and likely including home addresses.

    Note that I am not bashing the quality of phone support sourced from the subcontinent. I have had good and bad support experiences with people from all over the place. But they better not be settin' up no call center in Dubai, or I'm gonna make a big stink about it.

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    1. Re:Little thought for security? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But they better not be settin' up no call center in Dubai, or I'm gonna make a big stink about it.

      It is ok. You stink already, my rascist xenophobe American mate. :)

  16. GrowUp... by thebigbadwolf · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'm amazed at the general standard of comments posted on this... if the best reaction some of the folk here can come up with, is the size of Indian penises and how Indians are stealing your spam, maybe you deserve to have your job outsourced... Sociology aside, spam is a problem irrespective of who's getting it.. So grow up guys and get your dicks out of your heads.

  17. for the mods by sameeer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Its interesting to see how so many direct insults to India are being modded as "Funny" etc while a slight indirect negative comment on Microsoft can get one labelled "Flaimbait"..

    Following this observation, I wouldn't be suprised if this post gets labelled Flaimbait either..

    1. Re:for the mods by pintomp3 · · Score: 1

      u've got it all wrong. the mod handbook dictates the following

      negative comments about indians = funny
      negative comments about microsoft = insightful
      negative comments about apple = troll
      negative comments about slashdot = redundant

  18. Will you just LEAVE?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really hope that you leave Slashdot soon. Your karma whoring (I'm so glad this particular post backfired on you), your incessant first-posting, your shoot-from-the-hip "anti-anything-Republican"ist attitude, your damned Google links because we're all obviously too f-ing stupid to use it on our own... oh, yes, and your repulsive anime smiles. Enough is enough.

    You are one of the reasons why Slashdot is losing its appeal. Any thread with you in it automatically causes people's eyes to roll while grunting under their breath, "Not him again..." Whore somewhere else. Better yet, go and create your own site - slash-moveon.org or something - where you can combine your whoring and blind politics.

  19. yeah, lets kill each other first! by nutz-13 · · Score: 1

    fellow /. rs,

    i am shocked to see how much hatred brews under the hood of all these free spirted guys. Me included, my first reaction when somebody pulls a bad one me is to get right back. But given the facts, we didnt go to US or whatever other country to oursource jobs, it was in US citizen's hand to do it and they did it, and if by any chance, you can take a fact from an Asian, do understand that its all money games. You start bad mouthing me, I start wid my own things, but do understand how did we reach here; it was all because of one MNC corporate who just wanted to make more money. I may be little early on my prediction, but i can tell you for sure that by the end of this century, there wont be an American or Asian left to fight. You may not like the fact but all of the world gonna be pretty much the same; hungry for more and ready to beat each other up for nothing.

    howz that for a input about how other races are better or worse than urs!

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    1. Re:yeah, lets kill each other first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      kekekekeke ^^

  20. Re:Elsewhere in the article: by Elvis+Parsley · · Score: 1

    Hey, as long as we're not giving them control of port 25...

  21. Not really... by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    I think that nothing has really changed, since spammers don't actually target anyone. They just carpet-nuke everyone on the planet with impunity.

    And 90% spam isn't unusual. Only if it's getting *past* your filters, although the article seems to suggest that there aren't any.

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  22. Spam in India by VeryHotTopic · · Score: 1

    "Spammers have now discovered India it appears. The anti spam community around the world has noticed a steady increase in the amount of spam originating from Indian open relay SMTP servers. "The problem is compounded by the fact that several of these servers are running old Mail Transport Agents (mostly outdated versions of Sendmail) which are anonymous open relays. That is, they allow spammers to relay mails without the sender's IP address being stamped in the headers, as is the case with most modern MTAs. "Worse, such old MTAs have gaping security holes. Because sendmail runs as UID 0 (the same as root) a spammer can easily gain root access on a unix system running such an outdated MTA. This (or something quite similar) happened just after the Pokhran blasts, when BARC's servers were hacked by MilW0rm." -cauce india

  23. Next up on Slashdot: India Tops Spamming Too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all, where do you think our American spammers are going to go once they are outsourced?

  24. Xenophobic or just going on experience by pirho666 · · Score: 0

    I am sure that there are many Indians that are knowledgeable, yet in my direct experience I have yet to find any. (Noted I have direct experience with a very small subset of Indians, but I would also venture a guess that someone who Lives in India has had a likewise small subset of Indians)

    I have to deal with two incompetent Indians on a daily basis, unfortunately I am the sysadmin for our lab, and no one has written bengali for firefox yet. It took me three months of telling them not to use IE and because of thier ineptitude I must remove spyware weekly from the computers here.

    It doesnt help matters that they have an elitist attitude and their culture doesnt allow them to be taught or admit that they were wrong. When something happens that is bad there is always a "I deed not doo eeett" when before they joined things weren't breaking but after broken things just turn up broken, in inconspicous places.

    So I say send the spam on, if India is anything like the people I am forced to suffer through on a daily basis you should get tons of suckers there waiting to throw money at you.

    1. Re:Xenophobic or just going on experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      When something happens that is bad there is always a "I deed not doo eeett"

      Of the small subset of Indians I have interacted with, none pronounces English words this way nor would they structure their sentences this way.

      Its more like "I dint do it only."

      Therefore, I do not believe you.

    2. Re:Xenophobic or just going on experience by bheer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > I have to deal with two incompetent Indians on a daily basis ... if India is anything like the people I am forced to suffer through on a daily basis you should get tons of suckers

      Wow. You extrapolated that from a sample size of 2 (out of an Indian population of 1 billion?) ? Can we nominate you for the Slashdot's Stupidity Hall of Fame?

    3. Re:Xenophobic or just going on experience by pirho666 · · Score: 0

      Mine are bengali what flavor were yours. They speak mainly bengali to eachother and not hindi so it might be a language difference.

  25. Re:Who's really illiterate? by pirho666 · · Score: 0

    Hmmm you type like that and I am the illiterate one. Some tips:
    r != are

    dictionary.com is your friend

    Guardian is rarely taken to mean parent, except in formal documents.

  26. MessageLabs by shashark · · Score: 1

    MessageLabs' study is limited to their customers -- corporate mailservers that run MessageLabs' spam and virus filtering solutions.

    So much hulla-boo when the study itself is not credible.

    90% of the statistic is made up. Or in the MessageLabs' case -- made up of 10% of the information. /sarcasm

  27. Alternative explanation by CarrotLord · · Score: 1

    Maybe the reason that they have a high proportion of spam to ham is that there's not much ham? Maybe no-one wants to send them real email, so all they get is spam. Maybe if spam was made from cows, it would be different in India. Is it different in Israel? Maybe it's Spanna (spiced manna)?

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  28. No corruption spam... by chichchaaa · · Score: 1

    cool

  29. Yuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Abe 'anshubansal' behn ka launde. Sale angrezi aati nahi hai to bolta kyon hai? Aur saale tere writing skills ke kya kahna - kya analytical arguments diyela re bhai. Sahi mein tu India ke naam pe kalank hai. Ja doob mar.

    1. Re:Yuck by metlin · · Score: 1

      HAHAHAHAHAHA!

      That, sir, was fantastic. Badiya!

    2. Re:Yuck by nutz-13 · · Score: 1

      Thats definitely Dhoni style bashing.
      ROFL.

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  30. India LOL!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is it then that so many Indians come to western countries for university education? Why are they working so hard is they aren't interested in money?
    Money is your main motivation plain and simple. You have seen the worst examples of poverty imaginable in your own country and want to work hard to avoid that at all costs.

    I can make sweeping generalisations too! If you are from India it is extremely likely that your parents are in a loveless, arranged marriage and you father regularly beats every member of the household. Nice values there.
    At least the cows are well looked after....