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Man Builds 60-foot Tower to Get Highspeed Access

Matt Russell writes "A church was blocking the only high speed signal in town, so he decided he needed to go higher. This is the story of one man's quest to build a 60-foot reception tower in his yard and retire his modem once and for all." From the article: "Well, if you want to have a tower, you need to find one. Buying a new tower is not a good idea, since there are plenty of used ones. In my case, I was in need of a tower that was at least 50', which would cost around $1,000 USD for a new one. The way I searched was pretty simple. I spread the word around town that I was looking for one, and I drove around to see if there was a house with an old TV tower or something like that. If a 30' tower would be enough for you, go to a small town and look for TV tower. If you find one that looks to be in good shape, just go knock on the door and ask if you can buy it. At least 90% of people don't use them anymore, so it's a good place to start! "

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  1. oh by coaxeus · · Score: 4, Funny

    er, what? Wouldn't GPRS or something be a little more bang for buck ? (no, I didn't RTFA)

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    1. Re:oh by coaxeus · · Score: 5, Interesting

      okay read it a bit.. "and not when everyone around me, just far enough away from the church, would have it." .. "I would build a sixty-plus foot tower so I could intercept the signal! " Why not buy one or two $30 wireless routers and a directional antenna and share with a neighbor that isn't behind a church then. Honestly.

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    2. Re:oh by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why not buy one or two $30 wireless routers and a directional antenna and share with a neighbor that isn't behind a church then.
      Honestly


      Spoken like a woman who doesn't understand that the measure of a man's true worth is the size of his tower.

  2. Why not build it yourself? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Scouts we used to lash wood together to build structures. A forty foot tower is not hard to build this way.

    1. Re:Why not build it yourself? by rspress · · Score: 5, Informative

      This guys tower is going to come down the first time it is iced over and the wind blows strong. The weak point of the tower is the welded base plate. The place where the tower meets the ground will have the strongest amount of stress on it. It will be stress pushing in one direction. If he uses guy wires it will be even worse. It will be a twisting motion at the base. As far as I can tell, the site was not slashdot ready, he never used rebar to make a cage for the base. If he never took the tower completely apart there could be other weak points he does not even know about. His story should be a primer of how not to erect a tower.

      I had a 48 foot rohn tower I used for Amateur radio use and it was a tad overloaded. My hole was more of a polygon than a square and besides a very strong rebar cage for the base and the tower legs which were sunk 3 feet into the concrete, I used a little over two yards of concrete. This may sound like overkill but with the tower load I wanted it strong. Good thing. We had some of the strongest pacific storms after that tower went up. It took winds in excess of 100MPH. That wind uprooted orchards in our area and knocked over a few towers. Mine was hardly moving.

  3. News at 11 by Slash+Veteran · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man installs TV aerial

    plans to install new mailbox and gutters next weekend

    details at 11

  4. how about bartering for access to the tower by skidv · · Score: 5, Informative

    I didn't see the protocol (was it wifi?) in the article, but why not ask the church to put a repeater in their tower in exchange for setting up their computer to access the same ISP?

    Another case of over engineering the solution to the problem.

    1. Re:how about bartering for access to the tower by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Informative
      I didn't see the protocol (was it wifi?) in the article, but why not ask the church to put a repeater in their tower in exchange for setting up their computer to access the same ISP?

      Since this is a digg repeat, I'll tell you what he said. ;) Evidently, he asked them if they could work something out and they said no.

      It is overengineering a bit, but not so much if you actually do have access to the crap he has and the ability to do it.

    2. Re:how about bartering for access to the tower by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That says something about small-town versus big-town life. This guy couldn't get the church to install a small repeater in their belfry, but nobody cares if he has a 60' tower on his property. In the big city, churches vie with each other to put transmitters in their towers (nice source of revenue), but a homeowner would never get a 60' tower past the zoning board, the local homeowner's assocation, the neighbors concerned about property values...

  5. The atheist solution by Tx · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally, I'd have knocked down the church instead. Less practical, but infinitely more satisfying.

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    1. Re:The atheist solution by Surt · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's the solution they've been trying in Alabama, but people keep repairing the churches and putting out the fires.

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  6. Karma whore by LordSnooty · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's dying already.... Coral cache

  7. Lightning protection by Tiger4 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw he put a grounding line on the thing, and a ground rod. But Something that tall and close to an inhabited structure should really have a heavier line that goes right to the top. Lightning will fry that #6 conductor pretty fast, and then where will it want to run? Oh, by the way, he has thoughtfully provided a fortuitous conductor that leads directly into his computer! Two words, " lightning arrestor "

    And I wasn't too thrilled with his weld quality either. Looks like it was showing rust in the picture. And the bottom plate looked like it would hold water, not shed it. Overall, I'm not sure I'd want it next to my home.

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  8. HOWTO: by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 5, Funny

    O.K., so I read this. The howto can be summarized thusly-

    1: Have a Father in the building trades

    2: "Dad, help!"

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  9. And what do you know by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Funny

    so what happened in the next few weeks?
    (multiple choice questions)
    A. The church was blown up in a terrorist attack.
    B. The churche's tower was raised by 60 more feet to get the honest christ followers closer to their god.
    C. Rogers finally started providing cable Internet at that location.
    D. FBI came to the guy's house with various questions on the suspicious activity and took the tower as material proof from the possible crime scene.

    or

    E. A bunch of angry construction workers burned the house down for stealing all that cement, cement rings and the freaking tower? :)

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    Really, the story should've been called "A man finds a way to get a whole bunch of stuff for free and installs a tower in the meanwhile."

  10. Re:So what.. I built a solar powered repeater... by krbvroc1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I built a solar powered repeater for my Internet access. Where is my cookie?!

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  11. Re:So what.. I built a solar powered repeater... by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Funny
  12. Re:Planning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seeing that he lives in a tiny town with less than 2000 people in Canada I think the official process of obtaining a license to build a 60 feet tower in his back yard consists of the following steps:

    Pick up phone and call the local Mayor
    "Hey Bobbeee, I'm aboot to build a huge ass tower in my backyard. Can I get permission?"
    "Only if you buy me some beer eh"
    "Righto"

  13. Re:Rohn 25 by tcgroat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Rohn 25G topwers on hinged bases are not self-supporting at any height. They must always be guyed or bracketed to a building.


    Also, since he mentioned paying Canadian dollars for it, ice loading will limit the self-supporting height. With 1/2" ice load the best you can do is 20 feet, in a low wind area and a small antenna. Even in a mild climate, the safe limit for self-supported 25G is 40 feet.


    Do what the manufacturer says. They know where the failure point is. Overloaded towers will fail, it's a matter of when--not if.

  14. used tower == death wish by puzzled · · Score: 5, Informative


        I want you slobbering wireless fanboys to listen carefully.

      Used towers are dangerous. You can get stitches and broken bones handling one 10' section of new Rohn 25 if you don't have competent help. A fall from 6' can be fatal, a 'lucky' fall from 20' is still going to leave you with a lifetime of disability. Towers are not a permanent fixture. Even with care they rust and they get metal fatigue if they're not properly braced or guyed. No professional will reuse tower components without a careful visual inspection and most will just say no unless its the smallest cross section segments like Rohn 25 (12" face) and they're not going back up in a large configuration.

        If you get it down and home with all of your toes and fingers intact you've still got to get it erected. A proper base is an art - see a prebankruptcy Rohn catalog for details. You need to calculate the wind load for the size of antenna you'll use and make sure you're using appropriate guying or bracing for the given load.

      The tallest building I've ever had to service was 634'. The tallest facility I've ever had to manage was 485'. The tallest tower I've ever personally climbed was 300'. The tallest I've ever specified myself and helped install was 60'. The tallest water tower I've ever worked was 135'. The most I've done in the last year was an install at 55' on a 185' Penrod 30. The only experience I don't have is dealing with cylindrical cellular type towers.

      Stating my experience should shut down the cantenna artists who just became tower recycling gurus by reading that article twice, but I'm at a loss as to how to say this so that I won't get someone saying "Aren't you special?". I am special in the scheme of Slashdot, because I talk about things I do rather than things I fantasize about doing.

        So much for my resolution to never, ever respond here again.

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    1. Re:used tower == death wish by NoMaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hear, hear. (Sorry, but I'm right with you on the "talk about things I do rather than things I fantasize about doing" thing.)

      But, did you read the article? The fsckin' tower itself is the safest bit of the whole project! It might be 30+ years old, exposed to the canadian weather, and been knocked around by trucks in the back yard of his father's workplace, but I'd trust it a damn sight more than I would his built-over-several-weeks-out-of-waste-concrete base, his made-from-old-leftover-gal-plate baseplate home welded to the base of the tower, or the 3 bolts and 6 nuts which hold it in midair (look carefully - the baseplate doesn't touch the concrete slab).

      Not to mention that the hole filled with water in 12 hours - he's got a serious problem with his soil stability right there.

      Personally, I'll wait for the story telling how the bolts broke, the welds cracked, the baseplate tore, the slab delaminated, or the whole thing floated out of the ground and fell over...

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  15. oooooo by Atilla · · Score: 5, Informative

    we do this on a regular basis for customers with lots of foliage and who are desperate to get broadband. this is actually very common.

    we found that it's cheaper and safer to have someone (e.g your power company) plant a wooden pole. we've had customers that buried a 60 ft (and a couple of times 70-ft) wooden pole 10 feet in the ground, with some concrete around it, and they've never moved since. you can get a set of pegs to do about 3-4 poles for around 90 bucks, with a tool to drive them in. it helps if you know what you're doing and have some climbing experience, of course.

    we also have a couple of customers that have guyed and non-guyed masts and tri-poles up to 70 ft.... people will do strange shit for high speed porn.

    the worst part is having to do routine maintenance and realignments, just cause it's time consuming and wears you out.

    another neat tower design is the kind that "breaks over" close to the ground, and has a counterweight. you can fold it over, install your gear, and straighten it back up.

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  16. Get professional advice if you ever do this by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a lot of damaging superstitions about lightning. If you're in a lightning-prone part of the country, try to get your information from someone who knows physics and electrical engineering. Your recommended solution should include a ground *field* surrounding the tower, low-inductance connections, attention to take-off angles, arrestors before the wiring goes into the house, and a fanatical campaign to eliminate potential ground loops. You know how you're supposed to keep your feet together if you're caught in the open during a lightning storm? If you have equipment grounded in different places, that's the same as moving your feet apart. Strke current trying to fight its way through sorta-conductive dirt may discover that your equipment is a shortcut.

    You can manage a direct strike: operators of really tall towers get hundreds per year. But it requires a lot of attention to detail and a complete understand of the physics. For an application like this I'd suggest a disposable AP at the tower and no wiring going into the house.

  17. Re:What is exactly so dangerous? by EmagGeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    Erecting a tower is serious business. You have to know what you are doing, and know it well. It's not a simple matter of throwing it up and climbing it. You WILL kill yourself if you do not know what you are doing. You MUST have your tower installation inspected, and in many cases, you must get a building permit to put one up and have a civil engineer sign off on your pad and guy wire plan. You must also have a registered PE inspect and/or tension your guy wires if you are to be able to obtain liability insurance on your tower. If you do not do these things, and something happens, YOU ARE SCREWED. Towers are heavy, fragile, and wimpy. If your tower falls and kills someone, you're looking at a manslaughter charge unless you can demonstrate due diligence.

    Do you remember kindergarten physics? Remember the machine called the lever? A 60-foot lever has a tremendous mechanical advantage. 20lbs of wind force at the top has 1200 lb-ft of torque at the bottom unless you are guyed properly. It's not uncommon to see wind forces of 100lbs or more during severe storms.

    Putting up a tower is no joke.