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The Videogame Oscars

Gamasutra has responses to its weekly question of the week, this time looking at whether there will ever be an Oscars for games. The responses focused on some of the current crop of awards currently handed out, from the GDCA to Spike's debacle. From the article: "No one in the industry has taken the previous attempts at an award show seriously because they shows seem to offer up an award to the highest bidder and not the one most deserving. The only exception that I've seen come close to being a decent awards show is the Interactive Achievement Awards put on by AIAS. So how about we stop having rappers involved with the award shows based on the grounds that they like to play their Xbox? Or if we must have them involved, how about having Will Wright host the BET Awards Show? That makes about as much sense."

39 comments

  1. Terrible idea. by Red+Samurai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would just be dominated by casual garbage like EA games and GTA.

    1. Re:Terrible idea. by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Just like the real Oscars that were dominated this year by big budget films from major studios. Oh wait a minute... nevermind.

      I'm not a big fan of the idea but they did say Oscars, not People's Choice.

    2. Re:Terrible idea. by enjerth · · Score: 1

      GTA is not casual garbage, it's quite deliberate.

  2. Let's Hope Not by p_conrad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like we really need another back-patting award ceremony for entertainment that critics love and audiences ignore.

  3. Night of glam and fashion... by BecomingLumberg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Although I think its a valid art form, I would be a little scared to see the 'fashion pre-show'...

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  4. Award shows are bunk. by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Crash was a mediocre movie at best, but they spent almost as much promoting the film for oscar as they spent to make the film. check it out

    So why would a video game awards show be any different? And how would a 'serious' awards show for games improve your gaming experience?

    It wouldn't.

    Like films, you're more likely to find quality entertainment via reccomendations from friends that share your interests. Awards shows are just another promotional oppourtunity, and will always benefit the highest bidders.

    1. Re:Award shows are bunk. by kalirion · · Score: 1

      Hmm, so promotional money is as effective in the Oscars as it is in the U.S. Presidential Elections? That's so very sad on multiple levels.... What next, real negative campaigning?

  5. GDCA by Tellarin · · Score: 1

    What is the problem with the Game Developers Choice Awards? For me it is a great award, although not perfect, of course.

  6. Golden statues galore by DrWily · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The guys at Penny-Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/ have had the right idea for an awards show for a while: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/12/22 The're right you know...

  7. All awards by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All awards are little more than masturbation for the community. We see all these "top 100 games ever" type of things every year filled with just the latest flashy fad game. Why not instead of wasting money on this crap they spend it on supporting companies who make awesome games but are having trouble right now, or set up contests like NASA does.

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  8. Re:Jesus Christ, Zonk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you don't like Zonk's stories, there's a wonderful option on the preferences page to hide stories from him...

  9. How about Wil Wheaton as host? by mackil · · Score: 1

    They would have to get Wil Wheaton to host the thing. Humor and geekiness all rolled into one.

    1. Re:How about Wil Wheaton as host? by teasea · · Score: 1

      Wil! Stop trolling and get back to work on your next book!

      Sense of humor... grain of salt and all that...

  10. This Year's Interactive Achievement Award Winners by iota · · Score: 3, Informative

    From: http://www.interactive.org/awards/IAA-9/winners.as p

            The Interactive Achievement Awards have been presented annually since 1998.

            Interactive Achievement Award recipients are determined by a vote of
            qualified Academy members. As such, selection as an Interactive Academy
            award finalist or recipient represents the strongest possible peer
            recognition.

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    9th Annual Interactive Achievement Award Winners

    The award winners in each category are as follows:

    Game of the Year:

    Overall . God of War
    Computer . Battlefield
    Console . God of War
    Outstanding Innovation in Gaming . Guitar Hero

    Outstanding Achievement:

    Animation . God of War
    Art Direction . Shadow of the Colossus
    Soundtrack . Guitar Hero
    Original Music Composition . God of War
    Sound Design . God of War
    Story and Character Development . Call of Duty: Big Red One
    Game Play Engineering (Tie) . Nintendogs - Guitar Hero
    Online Game Play . Battlefield 2
    Visual Engineering . Shadow of the Colossus
    Game Design . Guitar Hero

    Outstanding Character Performance:

    Male . God of War
    Female . Jade Empire

    (Game of the Year In) Genre Awards:

    Sports . SSX On Tour
    First-Person Action . Battlefield 2
    Role-Playing . Jade Empire
    Fighting . Soul Calibur 3
    Action/ Adventure . God of War
    Racing . Need For Speed: Most Wanted
    Children's . We Love Katamari
    Downloadable . WIK: Fable of Souls
    Family . Guitar Hero
    Simulation . The Movies
    Strategy . Civilization IV
    Massively Multiplayer /
    Persistent World (Tie) . City Villains - Guild Wars
    Handheld . Nintendogs
    Cellular . Ancient Empires II

    AIAS Hall of Fame Honoree Richard Garriott is the ninth member to be inducted and joins an already impressive fraternity of gaming icons, including Trip Hawkins, Peter Molyneux, Yu Suzuki, Will Wright, John Carmack, Hironobu Sakaguchi, Sid Meier and Shigeru Miyamoto. Garriott is best known for creating and publishing the best-selling Ultima series, including the first commercially successful online game, Ultima Online.

  11. Re:This Year's Interactive Achievement Award Winne by TooMuchEspressoGuy · · Score: 1
    I've seen these awards before. They lost any chance for my respect when perhaps the best single-player RPG ever made (Planescape: Torment) won exactly zero awards in 2000, and was instead overshadowed by more popular and bigger-budget titles (Asheron's Call in the Best RPG category??)

    Looking down at that current list of award-winners, I see they've continued their tradition of awarding acclaim to popular big-budget titles from large, mainstream publishers.

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  12. Don't need one by 77Punker · · Score: 1

    Game reviewers and magazines and things like gamerankings.com already do a great job for gamers. No need for an awards show. To me, finding a half-decent movie to downl^H^H^H^H^H rent is a harder thing to do. Also, if music and movies had come to be in their present form of easy access like video games in the age of the internet, the internet would be the only decent place to get information about them, just like video games.

  13. Re:This Year's Interactive Achievement Award Winne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They also refused to recognize Resident Evil 4 because Capcom is not a member

  14. Oh, nice! by TexVex · · Score: 1

    I'd like my afternoon shot of Slashdot with a splash of Racism, please.

    Come on, it's not that hard to build a good analogy here instead of tossing out a complete non sequitur about BET.

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    1. Re:Oh, nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calm down, I don't think it's meant to have anything to do with race, but rather to do with the fact that rappers have nothing to do with games, just as a game developer has nothing to do with a music. Therefore, it makes no sense to have either of them presenting at these shows.

    2. Re:Oh, nice! by TexVex · · Score: 1
      a game developer has nothing to do with a music
      The BET Awards aren't all about music. Their music awards cover more genres than just rap. Rappers aren't all black, and neither are all rap listeners. BET, on the other hand, is all about everything black, from the name itself, to the content it provides, to the way it is marketed.

      So, the analogy is broken. It's saying that rap stars are not apropos to video game awards, and star game designers are not apropos to black entertainment awards. Each statement may individaully be true, but together they do not a good analogy make. A better way to complete the analogy is to substitute in the MTV Video Music Awards instead of the BET Awards. Referencing BET instead just seems to be done just for the racial element.
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    3. Re:Oh, nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You bunch of racists, shoving a pasty white guy onto our blacks only channel!

    4. Re:Oh, nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds to me like the BET awards are racist - is that legal? I suspect not if they're in public, or for public (non-pay) tv/radio broadcast...

  15. Re:This Year's Interactive Achievement Award Winne by leland242 · · Score: 1

    Correct me if I'm wrong, (and someone will) but isn't Shadow of the Collossus a fairly underground game that was love by critics and sold poorly?

    Just based on that list, and the fact that I just recieved my latest bonus, I think I know what my next eBay purchases will be...

  16. I disagree by pigs,3different1s · · Score: 1, Funny
    I disagree, after all, it could be interesting to see all the developers.

    I can see it now, sitting on my couch saying things like:
    • Hey, there's that guy that calls himself Jessica, and he's wearing a dress!
    • Hey, isn't that the guy that used to get beat up in school with us?
    • Hey, there's that girl that kept making a pass at my girlfriend!
    • Hey, there's that guy that was stalking you last year!
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  17. Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On a commerical for the Spike's VG awards there was a song by The Used. The Used is screamo hardcore.

  18. Re:This Year's Interactive Achievement Award Winne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't call it undergound at all. It was the "spiritual sequel" to ICO, probably the best game ever to come out of Sony's development arm. As such, Shadow of the Colossus was one of the year's highly anticipated releases.

    Me, I'm at once proud that they put Katamari Damacy on the list, and sad that they didn't award it Game of the Year. (Half Life 2 may be fun and all, but when people look back on 2005, they're going to remember Katamari.)

  19. A Word From Carmack by rsmith-mac · · Score: 2, Insightful
    In late 2004, John Carmack made a good post about why award shows like this simply do not fit for video games. I'd like to repost that comment(again), because it's still as true today as it was then.
    I did the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences awards show a few years ago -- I was inducted into the hall of fame one year, then the next year I inducted Will Wright.

    I hated it, but it is a big industry, and there is a broad range of people involved. Honestly, I'm almost certainly in the minority. One developer that I was talking to backstage was very bullish about how important it was to legitimize the industry with events like this, but I just don't have any empathy for what I perceive as "Hollywood envy".

    Some award show issues are just a result of stupidity -- I felt so bad watching Hironobu Sakaguchi of Squaresoft, a non-native english speaker, being forced to read a long speech written by some PR type about me. I threw out what they gave me to say about Will, and wrote something more to the point myself.

    I do feel that there is a rather fundamental mismatch with big awards shows for game development, because game development isn't a performing art. You expect actors and musicians to show well, because that is what they do. Why aren't awards for authors the same glamorous events that the movie / TV / music ones are? Game developers are much closer to authors than actors.

    John Carmack

    Game devs are not performing artists, a glitzy show does not make any sense here.

  20. Ever see the Technical Oscar Awards? by NickFusion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thought not. A room full of geeky guys with a token actress-presenter. Usually gets shown...sheesh, on the slowest of news days, for about 15 seconds.

    The Oscars work because people like seeing sexy, glamorous people cavorting about in expensive clothes.

    Until the game community starts being sexy, glamorous people cavorting about in expensive clothes, we may have to put the Game Oscars on hold.

    Unless it's EXTREME! All the kids love EXTREME!

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  21. Bafta's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The british Bafta awards have a Games awards section, with various categories. Not something many people know, and perhaps is a bit too much UK orientated for the Oscar US crowd. I still enjoy the Bafta's more then the Oscars however.

  22. Re:This Year's Interactive Achievement Award Winne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Especially as Half-Life 2 was released in 2004.

  23. Re:This Year's Interactive Achievement Award Winne by bri2000 · · Score: 1

    We love Katamari best childrens' game? I think that shows how seriously we should take these awards.

  24. How is this different? by YodaToad · · Score: 1

    No one in the industry has taken the previous attempts at an award show seriously because they shows seem to offer up an award to the highest bidder and not the one most deserving.

    So... Remind me how this is different from the Academy Awards again?

  25. Re:This Year's Interactive Achievement Award Winne by leland242 · · Score: 1

    no clue why you were modded down - now that you mention it, i did hear that it was the same group that did ico.

  26. Award shows are a black whole of intelligence by ShadowsHawk · · Score: 1

    Who actually watches these giant steaming piles of drivel? How anyone can watch fours hours of self praise and asinine humor is beyond me.

  27. Garbage of War by ShawnMcCool42 · · Score: 1

    Is anyone else completely appalled by the fact that god of war is incredibly uninspired everywhere EXCEPT graphics? I played it and kept thinking... been here done that.. I had to put it down after a few hours. What a waste of a rental. BOOOOORING.

  28. Doesn't G4 have an awards show for VGs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    G4ia is a VG award show, but it sucks like all the others...

  29. Does this do what we want done? by pugugly · · Score: 1

    Fundamentally, the Oscars are about a community of people that, lets face it, do what they do because they love the limeilight and telling stories, giving an awards show that put's them in the limelight, getting rewarded for telling stories.

    "You like me . . . You really LIKE Me!" is funny, because there's truth in it. For actors and actresses, this is an incentive. Why *ELSE* would somebody wait tables for ten years doing commercials waiting for their "Big Break"? There's money to be had lots of places. It's an incentive that is useful for the studios et al, but if the actors and directors *didn't* enjoy it on balance, it would have died years ago.

    It's not the same incentive to Game programmers. For one thing, those that are on their game - know who they are. Sid Meier, Peter Molyneux for god games. Bioware for D&D, Taldren knows they made the best Star Trek game ever whelped. For purposes of ego inflation, the best names in the gaming industry don't really need an "awards show". Sid knows he can destroy the U.S. Grade point average any day he feels like it - Just whisper the words "I think I'll do Master of Orion IV" and sit back grinning as the IT economy tanks . (Come on Sid - you know you want too).

    Nobody waits tables to do game design - it's not that kind of industry, and the same incentives don't work. And the only real reason for this kind of awards show is either an incentive to the programming trams, or an ad campaign for the studios. They're not interested in the former, we're not interested in the latter, and until I see a programmer that looks like Charlize Theron, neither of these things are likely to change.

    Pug

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