Aussie Techs Threaten Chaos

tintinaujapon writes "The Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that NCR staff with key responsibility (among other things) for fast food & supermarket chains, banking ATMs, schools and baggage handling at Sydney airport are preparing to walk off the job next week, in industrial action aimed at resolving a pay dispute. NCR's general manager thinks few people in the general community will care about the plight of the palest workforce, but the union claims potential disruption and financial losses could be huge. The strike could last up to a week and is the most significant action yet taken in Australia by the techie workforce."

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Re:Headline after the strike

[firl]

I dunno if people will allow themselves to be outsourced to a country founded by criminals

Re:You would have traded with Hitler

[Travoltus]

Well, sure, I would have traded with Hitler. A country with a healthy, trade-based economy doesn't commit genocide or start world wars.

ROTFLMAO!!! I can think of one such country that killed millions of Africans and native Americans, and is involved in an invastion of a foreign nation that wasn't threatening us. Can you guess which one that is?

I can also think of another such country that kills millions of baby girls a year in the name of its one-child policy. Can you tell me which one that is?

A country that does its level best to isolate its internal interests from those of the world around it, on the other hand.... well, history tells us what to expect in that case.

Brazil. So how many Jews did they gas?

I would have traded with Nazi Germany, while the measures you're advocating would turn us into Nazi Germany.

You know, we trade with a country right now that kills political dissidents, forces abortions, kills baby girls, and even kills political prisoners for organ donations. Ever since we started trading with them, they have refused to soften their policies. In fact, they've added to the mix some new technology, courtesy of American corporations: DIGITAL CENSORSHIP.

FACT: free trade has set that nation's citizens BACK because they've used our technology to censor even more information than before.

Question: Do you know what nation that is?

Again: if free trade is good externally, it's good internally, too.

BZZT. Wrong. You have no facts to back this up.

There's no cosmic mandate that entitles you to live better than five hundred million equally-qualified Indians.

There's no cosmic mandate that entitles five hundred equally qualified Indians to have America's jobs. If they want to prosper then they can do it the same way America did: develop their own industry!

And America has a God given right to tax anything that comes into this country from beyond its borders. If you disagree, feel free to invade us and see if we lack the firepower to stop you. Hint: I bet we have more nukes to repel invaders than you have invading troops to send.

If you can sustain your current position only at the point of a gun, that's a problem for all of us.

Tough titties. I'm all for protecting my nation's livelihood. If you don't like it, then invade. Or better yet, cut your exports to us. But remember, there's no God given right for you and your poor Indians to make a living either, and if we stop buying your stuff, then what will you do?

Offshoring is depleting the American consumer's ability to buy stuff. The middle class is shrinking as we speak. http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=249
Eventually East India's God given right to a better living, will go away when our buying power is no longer sustainable by credit debt.

Re:You would have traded with Hitler

[Travoltus]

You don't have a God given right to our jobs, either. You forgot that conveniently.

And don't talk in one breath about how America's market economy prevents mass genocide and then dis America for its mass genocide in the next breath. You're talking out of both sides of your face now.

And we have a God given right to do whatever is necessary to defend our livelihoods. What power are you proposing is available to stop us? No history book will refute that fact. We asserted our God given rights against Germany, Japan and the USSR. Who are you to say what our rights are? Are you stronger than all of them? If America gets mad enough and decides we want to keep our jobs and our middle class, what power do you have to stop them? Are you some omnipotent being that I haven't seen before, that will bring your most holy hand down and stop us?

Yes, expect change. Expect your God given right to have our jobs suddenly disappear when our consumer market collapses due to shrinking incomes and exploding debt. Expect America to get pissed off and demand that you build your economy on your own domestic blood sweat and tears instead of taking our jobs and stolen IP to do it. Laws against offshoring are cropping up in places like Arizona and state legislatures around the country, starting with offshoring Government jobs. Next we'll be looking at the financial industry and consumer personal data.

Things will change.
The result is American jobs will stop coming to you.
Because our consumer dollars will stop coming.

You want tech jobs? Then make your own industry. Don't sit there with your hand out begging for us to send our jobs to you. We do not owe you that.

And a man's duty is to his family before his country, and to his country before the world. The only way your "my family is the world of humanity at large" can ever be sensibly true is if we have a one world government.

By the way I'm going to now remind you of a key point that you got scared of and did not address:

You know, we trade with a country right now that kills political dissidents, forces abortions, kills baby girls, and even kills political prisoners for organ donations. Ever since we started trading with them, they have refused to soften their policies. In fact, they've added to the mix some new technology, courtesy of American corporations: DIGITAL CENSORSHIP.

FACT: free trade has set that nation's citizens BACK because they've used our technology to censor even more information than before.

Question: Do you know what nation that is?

Most free trade advocates - AKA cheap labor conservatives - such as you - don't like to be reminded of that basic fact.