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New Tool Tracks Online Media Consumption

Carl Bialik writes "Technology and market research company BigChampagne is introducing a measurement tool called BCDash to let media companies quickly track how people -- legally or illegally -- use their products online. BigChampagne said BCDash will bring together data from AOL, Yahoo Music, iTunes, and Wal-Mart, along with estimates of illegal file sharing activity for specific titles. It's meant as a marketing tool, the WSJ reports: 'Media companies have often been caught flat-footed when a video or song takes off online. By the time they try to capitalize on it, the opportunity often has passed.'"

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  1. O RLY? by vertinox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    along with estimates of illegal file sharing activity for specific titles.

    And how pray tell will you acheive this?

    Root kits that phone home? IP logs from torrent sites? Or a magic 8ball? Or perhaps the good old fashioned dartboard?

    Hrmm... Either they are commiting questionable practices or they are pulling magic numbers out of places where the sun don't shine.

    I tend to think it will be the latter since it will be cheaper and no one who buys their service will be able to prove them wrong.

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    1. Re:O RLY? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And how pray tell will you acheive this?

      1. GNUTella networks send the data through many clients before it reaches its destination. By monitoring this traffic with a modified client, one can get a reasonably good sampling of what users are searching for and/or downloading.

      2. Unless the torrent is private, anyone can connect to the server and all kinds of stats on the number of seeds and leechers.

      I'm not up on how Kazaa or eDonkey work, so I won't comment on those. But the very nature of these networks do make it possible to obtain useful stats.

  2. Tracking "illegal" file sharing? by skayell · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, how are they going to come up with those estimates of illegal file sharing. And how can I best skew their data? I wonder if I could get all slash-dotters to go along with a massive download of Milli Vanilli songs just to throw them off?

  3. Available to the masses by RunFatBoy.net · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My issue is that if you want to track my habits, track my purchases, my downloads, etc, then make the data available to me as well.

    It'd be great to see a geographic breakdown of where my friend's band is most popular. It'd be fairly novel to see musical trends e.g. a resurgance of raggae downloads in Brooklyn.

    If you're going to track my data, at least make the results available to me as well.

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  4. bad statistic by ExE122 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the companies fail to realize is that you can't use free or "illegal" file sharing/downloading as a marketing statistic to calculate your losses or even market potential.

    There are people who download TONS of free and/or illegal movies, games, music, etc... but its not like all those people would be paying for them if they weren't available for free.

    I think all that these stats do is give fuel for Microsoft, Metallica, and Disney to convince ignorant judges and lawyers to sue the pants off some 15 year old kid.

    Am I alone in thinking so?

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    1. Re:bad statistic by hal2814 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Though I see your point, I could understand wanting to see what people are downloading illegally. For example, something like this may have given Fox a little more of a clue that people were still interested in Family Guy before its Seasons 1 and 2 DVD release. FG was all over the P2P networks ever since it was canned the first time around. If I worked at Fox and got an inkling of how popular that show was on P2P, I might've done something to speed along its revival.

  5. BCDash, soon to be followed by.. by Celestial+Avenger · · Score: 5, Funny

    BCCrash, the program that eliminates BCDash's tracking capabilities.

  6. Fantastic opportunity for a prank here by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anybody remember the MTV Total Request Live Devo prank? TRL allows you to phone in what you want played on the show. Most popular vote gets played. Fark and a few other websites tried to get Devo's "Whip It" to get played - sort of like an online version of a flashmob.

    We could do something very very similar here with something as simple as a dinky little Perl script.

    All it has to do is hit your favorite P2P network that's being monitored, and make a request every so often. If you space out the requests and get a lot of people doing it, the net won't flood but the harvested data will be skewed.

    I wonder what the reprecussions would be if Big Media discovered the most downloaded movie of 2006 was Brazil and the most downloaded song was Jocko Homo?

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  7. Re:Media Consumption by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you're missing the point. One of the most valuable statistics to the entertainment industry is what is popular in the "underground" at the moment. That popularity is often a good indicator of what can be successfully marketed to the general public. Or as a friend of mine used to say, "By the time a music track goes mainstream, it's popularity at the clubs I go to has already come and gone."

    The purpose of this tool is to harness internet downloads to find out what might be highly marketable, and what isn't. And if they can get geographic data on its popularity, they'll even be able to target their marketing in the appropriate areas.

  8. Re:I mean, c'mon. by drooling-dog · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It just might cause an ad broker to pop a relavent one in front of me leading to buy something and boost my quality of life.

    I often try to increase my quality of life by buying stuff, but usually my purchases fail to do so in any meaningful sense, or for any significant length of time. A friend of mine claims that I will never find happiness this way, and should seek other ways to improve the quality of my life. He is a Buddhist, though, and I am an American. I am also a consumer, and what is my destiny if not to consume? Clearly if I am consuming and yet remain unfulfilled, my failure must be in the consuming itself. My other friends, who are Americans and not Buddhists, suggest that I am perhaps not buying enough stuff, and that if I strive to consume more I can eventually find happiness. Perhaps these "targeted ads" of which you speak are just the thing to show me the way to more and better consumption?