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Industry Vets Talking Crazy

IGN has a piece today looking at ten completely outrageous claims made by games industry veterans. My personal favorite: "Former Nintendo president Hiroshi Yamauchi may be retired (and frozen in a cryogenic coffin), but he would be proud of new company head Satoru Iwata for his May, 2004 assertion that, 'Customers do not want online games.' The Big N has long made bold claims about the marketplace based solely about what is - or, as it happens, isn't - happening in Japan, but this one definitely earns Iwata a spot on our list. Two years later, we're quite confident that two million Xbox Live subscribers, more than five million World of Warcraft subscribers and, ironically, more than a million DS Wi-Fi Connection users would disagree with Iwata's statement."

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  1. Missing one... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    New and original gaming content that challenges the player without being a cheap knock-off copy of a successful game from the 1990s (or even the 1970s).

    1. Re:Missing one... by JohnFluxx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh jeez, these comments always annoy me.

      Name one new and original book that isn't a knock off of some older book.
      Name one new device that isn't a knock off of some older device (dvd player = copy of video player. ipod = copy of walkman, etc)
      Name on new _idea_ that isn't a knock off of some older idea.

      We progress in increments. One step at a time. Deal with it buddy.

  2. Raph Koster's quote.. by Castar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think IGN gets it. FTA:

    "The single-player game is a strange mutant monster which has only existed for 21 years and is about to go away because it is unnatural and abnormal." Thanks, Raph. Memo to Capcom and Sony: Resident Evil 4 and God of War - incidentally the two most critically acclaimed titles of 2005 -- are apparently unnatural and abnormal.

    Raph was making a very valid point here, though, if you read the quote in context. He was saying that throughout human history, we've played games with each other. From throwing rocks at Ogg and Ug to Snakes and Ladders, there hasn't really been a "single player" game before. Games are all about playing with others. It's only computer games that are single-player. (And solitare, I guess...)

    His point may not mean much, but it's a lot better thought out and more thought-provoking than the article gave him credit for.

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    1. Re:Raph Koster's quote.. by __aatgod8309 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The thing to bear in mind is that pretty much all single-player games are actually two-player - the other player is the computer.

    2. Re:Raph Koster's quote.. by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please explain to me how Tetris is two player or how mine sweeper is two player. Hell please explain to me how a set of code which tells it to react exactly how it does became a person, hence making it two player.

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  3. Hmm Mhmm by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Former Nintendo president Hiroshi Yamauchi may be retired (and frozen in a cryogenic coffin), but he would be proud of new company head Satoru Iwata for his May, 2004 assertion that, 'Customers do not want online games.' "

    Oh brother. I love how these out-of-context quotes keep coming up again and again despite how laughable they are. I mean, seriously, he said this in 2004 AFTER Wifi was announced for the DS.

    Anyway, here's the rest of that quote:

    "most customers do not wish to pay the extra money for connection to the Internet, and for some customers, connection procedures to the Internet are still not easy."

    He wasn't talking about people playing on-line, he was talking about the subscription model that Sony and Microsoft were using. He also backed that up with numbers that showed a small percentage of PS2 and/or XBOX owners were actually playing their consoles on line.

    Shame on IGN and Slashdot for perpetuating this quote.

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  4. Solitare is just one by blueZ3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are many non-computer, single-player games, and there have been for a long time. The game where you catch the ball in the cup (where the ball and cup are attached by a string) is at least several hundred years old. Games where you move a single piece to eliminate others on a board are also old.

    His "point" is nonsensical to the point of idiocy,

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  5. Haven't been single player games? by nick_davison · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From throwing rocks at Ogg and Ug to Snakes and Ladders, there hasn't really been a "single player" game before.

    Since the first cave teenager yelled, "Mom! Knock before coming in to my cave!" I think you'll find there has always been at least one "single player" game that's stayed remarkably popular.

    And, cheap joke aside, to say there haven't been single player games ignores every kid that's kicked a ball against a wall, driven toy cars or flown toy planes around, flown a kite, used a hulahoop, jumped rope, played with a yo-yo, had a dolls tea party, built a cardboard and tinfoil spaceship for a trip to the moon, or kept a hoop rolling with a stick.