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Opera Software Co-Founder Passes Away

worb writes "One of the two founders of Opera Software, Geir Ivarsoy, recently passed away after a long battle with cancer. His funeral yesterday was attended by Opera employees who paid their last respects to their former lead programmer. While Opera hasn't had the same success as Firefox on the desktop, it has had considerable success in the mobile phone market due to its speed and small footprint, combined with excellent standards compliance and innovative features."

145 comments

  1. So long, and thanks by lanc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Though I am no opera user - thanks for the effort supporting an alternative solution. The possibility to choose is well appreciated.

    --
    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
    1. Re:So long, and thanks by blastwave · · Score: 3, Insightful

      An excellent browser that runs well on old Sun Solaris sun4m hardware all the way up to the latest builds. I have been using Opera for years and bought and paid for the licenses. It is a real loss to see a brilliant creator pass. I surely hope that his legacy lives on in world domination of the mobile browser market.

      Dennis Clarke from Blastwave.org
      http://www.blastwave.org/

    2. Re:So long, and thanks by lanc · · Score: 5, Informative

      sun4m, right.
      but not only that - If you want to download it, ofcourse it exists for linux, but it is not merely usual that there is a prepackaged version for Debian, and highly unusual that you can choose packages for:

      Debian Unstable (Sid)
      Debian Testing (Etch)
      Debian 3.1 (Sarge)
      Debian 3.0 (Woody)
      Debian 2.2 (Potato)


      it exists for Mac, QNX, FreeBSD, it runs on a pile of mobiles. That I call userfriendly, supportive.


      --
      "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
    3. Re:So long, and thanks by kubevubin · · Score: 1

      I use Opera as my primary Web browser, and I certainly appreciate the ability to choose. Most people believe that IE is the only Web browser, so it's definitely disappointing whenever a product such as Opera tends to go largely unnoticed by the general public. Opera 9 looks great.

    4. Re:So long, and thanks by bogaboga · · Score: 2, Informative

      What amazes me is its incredible speed. I wonder why Firefox programmers have not been able to make Firefox at least closer to Opera's speed. When it comes to memory, I wouldn't mind that much since memory itself is very cheap these days.

    5. Re:So long, and thanks by PrvtBurrito · · Score: 1

      Although many of us use different browsers than Opera, the influence of Opera on the browser war is (and was) undeniable. When Microsoft was telling the Dept. of Justice (and americans in general) that they were the real innovators, Opera was out there proving them wrong. Features that were introduced in Opera were later adapted into Mozilla and, I'm confident that many features in future versions of IE will have their roots in Opera.

      I hope that Geir Ivarsoy is remembered as being an innovator well after the Opera project has left our collective minds.

      --
      Laboratree - Scientific collaboration based on OpenSocial.
    6. Re:So long, and thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Goes back three releases? I guess that'd just about cover the last decade and a half..

    7. Re:So long, and thanks by quanticle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not only does Opera 9 look great, but it passes the Acid2 test as well, something that Firefox has not yet achieved.

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      We all know what to do, but we don't know how to get re-elected once we have done it
    8. Re:So long, and thanks by msobkow · · Score: 1

      RIP, Geir.

      It's grown a bit since the early releases, but Opera is still an example of tight old-school code in a world of bloat.

      --
      I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
    9. Re:So long, and thanks by TravisWatkins · · Score: 1

      Acid2 is about worthless. Passing just shows that they took the time to make that page work, it doesn't say anything about the standards support of the browser.

      --

      "But I'm still right here, giving blood and keeping faith. And I'm still right here."
    10. Re:So long, and thanks by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      It's grown more than a bit. The installer binary for the early releases fit on a single floppy diskette.

      It has grown more powerful, but also much, much fatter.

    11. Re:So long, and thanks by :jax: · · Score: 1

      That discussion doesn't really belong here, but in a web design thread. But apart from cheating (treating the test page specifically), which would be easy to spot, taking time to make Acid2 work means taking time to make the CSS implementation work, there is no "quick fix" to Acid2.

      Acid2 doesn't cover everything, far from it, but a poor CSS implementation won't pass Acid2 so if an implementation passes Acid2 it must be a good one. Additional tests will be needed to see if it is a great one. It will be much easier to design pages that work for browsers that pass Acid2 than it will for browsers that don't. Not passing comes in degrees of course, Firefox does better than IE that does better than Netscape 4.

      This has some relevance to Geir. Before there was an Acid2 test there was an CSS Acid test, created by Todd Fahrner. When it was written and a long time after none of the browsers came close to pass this test, Geir's CSS implementation did. There is no talk about it today because every modern browser, IE included, pass it today. Hopefully the day will come soon when nobody is going to talk about Acid2 either.

    12. Re:So long, and thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that at least the sid packaged Opera segfaults on startup. Useless.

  2. RIP ... Silent Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Silent Post

  3. Opera. by fanblade · · Score: 0, Troll

    The show ain't over 'til the fat lady sings.

  4. Ouch. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read the summary, clicked the comments link, and saw this in the random fortune quote at the bottom of the page: "Someone is speaking well of you. How unusual!"

    Poor guy.

  5. damn by popeguilty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The alternative he provided created much-needed freedom to leave MSIE back when Netscape couldn't get its act together. Rest in peace.

  6. Thanks, dude! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For such a nice product and being there when I needed you.

    God bless you!

  7. My condolences to his family and friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thanks for all your work, Mr. Ivarsoy. The innovative features in Opera have had a great amount of influence in the browser market and beyond.

    1. Re:My condolences to his family and friends by earthlingpink · · Score: 1
      I never met Geir Ivarsøy, but I use Opera every day. I use it because it makes my life easier. I'm sure there are millions of other people who do the same thing.

      Clearly, Geir has made life just that bit nicer for a lot of people, all over the world.

      I, for one, will think of him every time I open Opera. My thoughts are with his family.

  8. What does Opera have to do with Open Source? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their product wasn't free (in either sense) until last year, and it's still not open source.

  9. We need to fight cancer. by elucido · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In general, we need to discuss what can be done, to improve cancer screaning, and treatment, using open source technology. We need a slashdot or similar site which deals with genetics, technology, medicine, and health research and related topics.

    Cancer is a threat to us all, and while we discuss Netscape vs IE, or Linux vs Windows, we ignore the fact that we arent using open source technology or ideas in healthcare. I think we should discuss personalized-medicine, and ways to lower the cost of cancer screenings and treatments.

    1. Re:We need to fight cancer. by popeguilty · · Score: 3, Informative

      Have you ever seen the movie "And the Band Played On"? It's about the principal players who originally researched AIDS and discovered HIV. What's fascinating about the movie is not its depiction of popular reaction to AIDS but of the vicious infighting between the groups of researchers, particularly one doctor who lies, cheats, and steals to make sure his name is the one attached to "discovering HIV." It's a fascinating movie, and it's chilling to note that the same things are apparently happening surrounding "avian flu"- not to mention years of secret research in other medical areas.

    2. Re:We need to fight cancer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, because Slashdot's done so much to advance the computer industry. If you want progress fighting cancer and other disease, then try removing some of the religious nutters that get in the way (particularly in the US). A bunch of geeks wittering about the latest cool development that they don't understand isn't going to help.

    3. Re:We need to fight cancer. by AeiwiMaster · · Score: 1

      No, Cancer is a threat to those who don't know about vitamin B17.

      http://curezone.com/foods/laetrile.html

  10. Re:In his memory, we need to launch a new movement by Bizzeh · · Score: 1, Insightful

    your sick, using someones death, or the battle to cure cancer to push open source... shame...

  11. sigh... by neurokaotix · · Score: 1

    Opera is a great browser, with many unique features. I use IE, Firefox, and Opera everyday. It is sad to see anyone go, let alone someone who you know had a huge part in something you come to take for granted.

    --
    "...if people respected copyright more, like you guys do with the GPL so religiously, [the DMCA] wouldn't be necessary."
  12. Re:that sux by linguizic · · Score: 1

    I've never used opera, but since it seems that this man's death is /. worthy, I'm thinking about trying it. Before I do though, I would like to know what some of the features that set it apart are. Could someone oblige me?

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    Does this sig remind you of Agatha Christie?
  13. Creativity is a legacy :) by tinkertim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope, when I die I've left behind something that inspires. The desire to create I believe comes from somewhere deep within and is a capacity that clings within you despite what life tosses your way .. it never seems to fade. For him, it never will, people will take the best part of him, what he was able to dream together and make it their own.

    I think that's truly immortality, when you stop and think about what shapes your creativity.

    Didn't find his age on the blog? Wow he looked young. Opera hasn't seen the real fruits of his efforts and creativity (just yet, but starting to .. ) , I'm sad that he won't.

  14. FSM by TallMatthew · · Score: 1, Funny
    May His grace be with you alfredo.

    Oh, and thanks for the great browser.

    Oh, I guess you're dead and can't read this.

    1. RE: FSM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We need confirmation. Where is Netcraft when you need it?

    2. Re:FSM by GooglePlexity · · Score: 1

      What, don't they have computers in heaven?

  15. Re:In his memory, we need to launch a new movement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think this is the right time. I was going to use my mod points on you so feel lucky.

  16. Re:that sux by fftl4life · · Score: 2, Informative

    here is the url to goto and find info http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/ it supports almost every os and is a very small file size, if u like the features of firefox then opera might be right for u...

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    ~FFTL4LIFE~
  17. RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lucky bastard

  18. And now... by Atmchicago · · Score: 5, Funny

    He will be known as the Phantom of the Opera!

    Sorry, that was in poor taste. My regards to someone who helped contribute to the diversity in web browsers.

    --

    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it dissolve.

    1. Re:And now... by Heembo · · Score: 1

      It could have been worse, you could have asked if he was creamated (since he liked compact code), you could have asked if the funeral arrangements all fit on one floppy, or you could have asked if he passing was standards-based.

      Either way, this dude was a maverick, a pioneer, and the dude obviously knew how to code. Where he is now, he can write raw assembly without ever compiling.... he's ok now. It's his family I send my well wishes and condolences to....

      --
      Horns are really just a broken halo.
    2. Re:And now... by saboola · · Score: 1

      I was wondering how long it would take someone to get a 5 funny in a somber post like this. Twenty nine minutes is not bad. I take off my hat to you good sir.

    3. Re:And now... by zerocool^ · · Score: 1


      I bet his wake didn't pass the ACID2 test...

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      sig?
    4. Re:And now... by fimbulvetr · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yes, but will it be in time for HD-DVD?

    5. Re:And now... by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1
      Actually, if you wanted to be in bad taste, you should have used a "Netcraft/ICD confirms it..." style post.

      But that would have just been sickening./p?

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      Slashdot: Where people pretend to be twice as smart as they really are by behaving like children.
    6. Re:And now... by :jax: · · Score: 1

      In a way he was. He never was much for self-aggrandizement, so outside Opera and a select few other circles people didn't know who he was as a programmer or as a person. But his work had an impact beyond Opera. We do need the people who talk, but we also need the people who do.

  19. Paid their respects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Did the ones who didn't pay have to watch an ad banner over the casket?

    1. Re:Paid their respects by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have to pay to get laid? I would guess yes

    2. Re:Paid their respects by Robotron23 · · Score: 1

      ROFL, good one.

    3. Re:Paid their respects by Salandarin · · Score: 1

      IMO, that's in poor taste, and it's not even relevant anyways. The current public version, 8.5 (as well as the 9.0 beta) are completely ad-free. Go check it out for yourself.

  20. Why Opera? by worb · · Score: 5, Informative
    Opera has lots of features in a small (and fast) package. By default, Opera looks any plain browser, but if you feel like it, you can dive below the surface and discover a lot of features that speed up browsing, such as mouse gestures and extensive keyboard support (both shortcuts and spatial navigation for using the keyboard to navigate pages).

    If you search Google for "why Opera" you'll find pages like this one, with a nice list of reasons for why you should consider Opera.

    The best thing you can do is to simply download it and give it a fair go. If you surf around and read about Opera you'll discover lots of nice little touches that make browsing more convenient. Maybe you'll find that you love Opera. Maybe you won't. It's a slightly different approach than what Firefox is doing, but at least you won't have to rely on extensions for functionality. That can be both good and bad, I guess. (Opera seems to be a bit more efficient on the memory usage than Firefox, mind you.)

    But Opera is actually also extensible in various ways, such as User JavaScript ("Greasemonkey"), and similar. There are lots of nifty things to discover, such as custom made toolbars.

    Anyway, the Search Engine Journal editor asked Opera users to convince him to use Opera. He got quite a few useful replies. Maybe they will be of interest to you, too...

    1. Re:Why Opera? by MooUK · · Score: 1

      Opera has some amazing features. FF is inferior in quite a few ways. I still use FF over Opera right now for a few reasons, but it is VERY close and I've done it the other way round for quite a while too. And in the several months I used it, I know I barely scratched the surface of what it's capable of.

      I think one of the worst things that could happen in the computing world is for either of these to soundly defeat the other. BOTH are great products in different ways. BOTH are competing and constantly improving. And that's what we want.

      For me, if you've left a good mark on a few people, you've had a successful life. This man has left huge good marks on a very large number of us. Who can ask for much more of a man?

  21. rest in peace by trybywrench · · Score: 1, Interesting

    From too much love of living,
    From hope and fear set free,
    We thank with brief thanksgiving
    Whatever gods may be
    That no life lives forever;
    That dead men rise up never;
    That even the weariest river
    Winds somewhere safe to sea.
    - swinburne

    Rest in peace, thanks for making a difference.

    --
    I came to the datacenter drunk with a fake ID, don't you want to be just like me?
  22. Why I'm not a funeral director by murderlegendre · · Score: 1

    Beyond any doubt, I would have concluded the ceremony with a Fat Lady, singing.

    That aside, this is pretty sad news. Better times on the other side, man.. and my personal condolences to his family, friends and colleauges at Opera Software.

    --
    There's a Starman, waiting in the sky / He'd like to come and meet us, but he hasn't got the time.
  23. Thanks for the Hope by Snap+E+Tom · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't use Opera now, but I used it very briefly. Opera rose at a very dark time. IE had just won the browser war with Netscape 4 being a bloated, happy, piece of crap. Opera gave us hope when us anti-IEers were most down. Although I use Firefox now, the conditions for Firefox's success should be creditted to Opera.

    1. Re:Thanks for the Hope by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 1

      Indeed. And let's not forget that it was Opera that embraced and kept alive the respect for standards compliance and openness in internet-related projects that we all admire, respect and appreciate so much. For that reason alone we owe Opera oh so very much.

      --
      Slashdot, fix your code or at least hire someone who is competent at it to do it for you.
  24. My #2 Browser by chivo243 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The loss of a loved leader in a group can have either of two outcomes:

    1. Everyone falls apart, and the group with it.
    2. The group rallies, and is spurred on to greatness.

    I use three browsers through out the work day, and personal night.

    1. Camino-Super fast, great for our intranet php based apps.
    2. Opera-Pretty fast, but has the option to open to last page viewed at launch.(The option that sets Opera apart really!)
    3. Safari-Solid performer, secure.
    4. Firefox-odd man out really, but do use it to test sites once in a while. useful. I do recommend Firefox to the common users I assist with their computers after virus, worm, malware etc climbed aboard via IE.

    I love that all of these browsers offer tabbed browsing ;-)
    There are tons of features I will never use on all of these browsers, but they are there for those who need the tools. I can't say enough about the browser choices available other that IE. They are the market of the future. IE will only be able to mimic the new features.

    --
    Sig Hansen?
  25. Remembering Geir by Lawmune · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a remembrance of Geir Ivarsøy from someone at Opera Software who knew him: Death in the Family

  26. Get his name right, please by slavemowgli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's probably not the right time to rant about this, but... could people *please* take care to actually spell names correctly? It's Ivarsøy, not Ivarsoy; you'd think that at *least* his Slashdot obituary would get this right.

    It's not difficult, either. If you can't type the ø character directly, use a HTML entity, ø (ø), or ø (ø) - it's really simple.

    But don't just substitute another letter that looks vaguely similar. Would you like it if somebody whose native language doesn't have a "d" substituted a "b" in your name for it because the two letters look quite similar? Of course not. So please, do the same thing and try to spell other people's names correctly. With HTML entities, it's not hard, and it's a sign of respect - doubly so on an obituary.

    --
    quidquid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
    1. Re:Get his name right, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know how to translate current Pope's name, but last Pope, when written about in English, was "John Paul", and when written about in Spanish "Juan Pablo". My point is that it is accetptable to adjust names to languages.

    2. Re:Get his name right, please by Echnin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's different. The pope is named after religious figures, who have completely different names in different countries. Ioannes in Latin, John in English, Juan in Spanish, Johannes in Norwegian. If you were to call the pope Ioannes Paulus most Christians wouldn't be able to associate that with the religious figures he's named after. English speakers do not call the king of Spain "John Carl"; they call him "Juan Carlos". Norwegian speakers are often linguistic purists, however, and can be quite pedantic; if you look at the Norwegian wikipedia article for Bluetooth, for example, it's under "blåtann", which is the Norwegian name for the king after whom the standard is named.

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    3. Re:Get his name right, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      tss, some people won't even use sad moments to push their agenda. Everybody with a native language consisting of more than ASCII chars is definetely used to spelling variations.

      I have no clue why this tactless behaviour is modded +4

    4. Re:Get his name right, please by JamMule · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Everybody with a native language consisting of more than ASCII chars is definetely used to spelling variations.

      As a Finn I must totally disagree. I find it extremely annoying when people misspell names or pronounce them completely wrong. It is not so difficult to use the correct spelling and to find out how the name is pronounced.

      I find it extremely arrogant and self centered for English speaking people to totally ignore the rest of the world. I think that most of the problems we have nowadays with multiple character sets and other internationalization/localization issues could have been avoided without the "English alphabet is enough for everyone!"-mentality.

    5. Re:Get his name right, please by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "Would you like it if somebody whose native language doesn't have a "d" substituted a "b" in your name for it because the two letters look quite similar?"

      I bolded the part that explains why it wouldn't bother me.

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      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    6. Re:Get his name right, please by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1
      It's probably not the right time to rant about this, but... could people *please* take care to actually spell names correctly?

      Speaking as someone whose name is almost NEVER spelled correctly, and (almost) never pronounced correctly (I had exactly one person do it on that historic day), I've learned that it just doesn't matter.

      And anyway, this is an English web site. We use the English alphabet. The spelling was correct as an anglicized version. Is a Chinese person supposed to be offended when we don't use Chinese characters for their name on this web site? Get over it.

      --
      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    7. Re:Get his name right, please by kanani · · Score: 1

      find it extremely arrogant and self centered for English speaking people to totally ignore the rest of the world. I think that most of the problems we have nowadays with multiple character sets and other internationalization/localization issues could have been avoided without the "English alphabet is enough for everyone!"-mentality.

      And yet....you responded in English

    8. Re:Get his name right, please by berj · · Score: 1

      Lemmie get this right. Say you're finnish (which, it seems, you are) and say your name is YRJÄNÄ or maybe YRJÖ (which would be an incredible coincidence because I picked those names at random). Now, let's say you go to, oh.. I dunno.. Nicaragua. And, being friendly, you introduce yourself to everyone you meet. Not a single person there is able to pronounce your name. You spell it for them, you pronounce it nice and slow and yet you can't get a single person, young or old, to get it right. In fact, they butcher it so badly that it hurts your ears to hear it.

      You've got two choices here. You can get all whiny and indignant and call them arrogant and self centred for not taking the time and effort to get your name right.

      OR

      You can introduce yourself (in spanish) as Jorge.

      Which do you think it more polite and likely to make you some friends?

      Just to bring this to reality. My name (Berj) is thoroughly unpronounceable in Spanish. I tried. For months. No-one was able to get it right. Now, sadly, my name has no equivalent in Spanish. Luckily my middle name (Patrick) does... Patricio. Which is how I was known when I was down there for a year. I was also known as el Gringo Loco.. but that's another matter entirely.

      In any case, I think it's entirely unfair of *you* you expect that an entire culture twist their tongues around your name rather than just dealing with it and finding a compromise that works.

    9. Re:Get his name right, please by Karma+Farmer · · Score: 1

      I have no clue why this tactless behaviour is modded +4

      There is a large group of slashdot users who routinely mod up trolls. I think it's tasteless that they would mod up a transliteration troll in an obituary, but that's just how the site works.

    10. Re:Get his name right, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can call me Ray, you can call me Jay, You can call me RayJay, but since your a Finn you have no idea who I am. Relax, its just a name and some languages are very difficult for others to pronounce. I lived in Japan and nobody could pronounce my name correctly in the 5 years I was there. My name has sounds that do not exist in Japanese. After a couple months I used a nickname that one of my co-workers kids called me when he was trying to say my name. He was four and made an effort, should I be like you and demand retribution for the indignity?

      You must be fun at parties. "Any of you homos touch me and I'll kill ya. Any of you homos touch my stuff and I'll kill ya. Any of you homos mispronounce my name and I'll kill ya". I'm proudly standing with Sgt. Hulka, (the big toe), and loudly say "Sit down Francis!!!".

    11. Re:Get his name right, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have c with caron in my surname and I find it absolutely ok to use my name without diacritics.

    12. Re:Get his name right, please by Hugonz · · Score: 1

      Funny, we speak of la reina Isabel II.

      Hugo

    13. Re:Get his name right, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      slavemowgli wrote: It's probably not the right time to rant about this, but... could people *please* take care to actually spell names correctly? It's Ivarsøy, not Ivarsoy; you'd think that at *least* his Slashdot obituary would get this right.

      It's not difficult, either. If you can't type the ø character directly, use a HTML entity, ø (ø), or ø (ø) - it's really simple.


      Hey, slavemowglis, how's this:

      Fü©k øFF åsshø£E
    14. Re:Get his name right, please by Squirrelgirl · · Score: 1

      As a swede, I can only say: amen ;)

    15. Re:Get his name right, please by hankwang · · Score: 1
      It's a good thing to adapt pronunciation to the local language in everyday life, but it doesn't harm to write it correctly. Suppose I wanted to know more about this person:

      Google:

      Google 1: Results 1 - 10 of about 173 for geir ivarsoy.

      Google 2: Results 1 - 10 of about 10,300 for geir ivarsøy.

  27. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought grammar nazi's were bad. This takes the cake.

    1. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean cäké

    2. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought grammar nazi's were bad. This takes the cake.

      I think you mean "nazis."

  28. RIP by endoplasmicMessenger · · Score: 1, Insightful
    I love Opera!

    Rest in Peace, Geir Ivarsoy.

    --
    Evolution is a fact. Darwinism is a joke.
  29. Geir Ivarsoy RIP by Telemachas · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    From Tom Rettig @ 1985 * REMEMBER.PRG * Sometimes we forget... * USE Yourself SET TALK OFF CLEAR * DO WHILE ALIVE STORE "Love" TO Heart STORE "Health" TO Body STORE "Peace" TO Mind STORE "Compassion" TO Others STORE "Esteem" TO Self STORE "Trust" TO Humanity STORE "faith" TO God REPLACE Negative WITH Positive,; Judgment WITH Acceptance,; Resentment WITH Forgiveness REPLACE Hopelessness WITH Choice,; Confusion WITH Clarity,; Procrastination WITH Participation REPLACE Separation WITH Connection,; Lack WITH Abundance,; Sorrow WITH Celebration @ all, times SAY your_truth IF its_time EXIT ENDIF ENDDO * SAVE TO Always CLEAR ALL RETURN * * EOF: remember.prg

  30. How would you know? by trifish · · Score: 1

    While Opera hasn't had the same success as Firefox on the desktop

    I'd like to see some trustworthy figures backing up this claim.

    1. Re:How would you know? by trifish · · Score: 1

      By "figures" I mean numbers (statistics), not "persons".

    2. Re:How would you know? by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 1

      I don't know whether or not the parent was intended to be sarcastic, but it is a notable point. I keep Opera set to spoof IE (#5, not #3, for those who understand what that means). In fact, my cell phone provider's website won't let me on unless I'm spoofing (and then it works perfectly...).

      But, on the other hand, the people that calculate such comparisons seem to be able to tell the difference somehow. Also, it is notable, the MSupdate is not fooled by the spoof (though, as I understand it, it used to be).

    3. Re:How would you know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, yeah... at least Opera got people to PAY for their product.

    4. Re:How would you know? by trifish · · Score: 1

      > I don't know whether or not the parent was intended to be sarcastic

      No, no, I did not. Opera is a good browser and now it's even freeware.

    5. Re:How would you know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MSUpdate now requires ActiveX, which was just about dead until M$ ressurected it for just this one purpose. I still use google on Opera to search for security notices (ie "MS06-009") and manually find and download updates. This was how I downloaded and patched my servers and workstations.

      However, the dicks at M$ made some updates IE only by forcing you to go to the ActiveX Windows Update site to download it. There really is no other reason for having ActiveX enabled on any computer except for this annoying bug that M$ requires. I now have one machine with IE exclusively where I can go download patches. Otherwise, there's no good reason to keep IE. Why should I waste bandwidth to download the same patch hundreds of times?

    6. Re:How would you know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sounds like you might really benefit from Autopatcher. Great tool, also has all the patches that M$ doesn't bother pushing through Windows Update (because they're not related to security), plus a lot of useful tweaks and necessities (Flash, Java and so on).

      http://www.autopatcher.com/

    7. Re:How would you know? by bunratty · · Score: 1
      --
      What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
    8. Re:How would you know? by trifish · · Score: 1

      Interesting. Thanks for the link. However, note that Opera users has been cloacked by default for years (they identified themselves as IE).

    9. Re:How would you know? by bunratty · · Score: 1

      Nearly all browser stats programs detect Opera properly, even when cloaked as IE. Even Chuck Upsdell, who compensates for the fact that Opera is likely undercounted, puts Opera usage at around 1% and Mozilla browser usage around 11%.

      --
      What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
    10. Re:How would you know? by trifish · · Score: 1

      Opera had two strong and FREE competitors. Even if it had only 1%, it would be absolutely incredible achievement for a commercial program. Now that Opera is free, all they need is time and Google's support.

    11. Re:How would you know? by bunratty · · Score: 1

      Opera has been free (as in beer) for years. It had a tiny little barely noticeable ad banner at the top of the window, but they removed that last year. According to reliable web stats sources, Opera usage has not increased noticeably since then. How much time is it going to take for Opera to get above 1% usage share? All I hear about Opera is excuses, excuses.

      --
      What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
    12. Re:How would you know? by trifish · · Score: 1

      > Opera has been free (as in beer) for years.

      No, it was adware. That's not exactly free as in beer, is it? At least, not what most people label freeware.

      However, on my site, AWStats report that 7% of all visitors use Opera. My site is technology related with 5000 unique visits daily.

  31. Writ in marble by k1980pc · · Score: 1

    All your better deeds Shall be in water writ, but this in Marble... Thank you for Opera - Philaster, Beaumont and Fletcher, 1611

  32. linux causes cancer!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The founder of Libranet (Debain-based linux distro) died of cancer too. Does linux cause cancer? In all seriousness, I think working in such close proximity electronic devices and electronic radiation does promote cancerous cell mutations.

  33. Truly an American icon by mnemonic_ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Even if he was from Norway.

  34. OT - I'd use Opera, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to use Opera. It feels nicer and more complete than Firefox, and the much smaller footprint & startup time are also plusses. However, the only thing keeping me from using Opera is that I couldn't find an Adblock-like feature/plugin for it. Does anyone know if such a thing exists? Bonus points if it's compatable with Filterset.G.

    1. Re:OT - I'd use Opera, but... by XO · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Pick up one of the weekly builds at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam ..

      The Content Blocker is still definitely work in progress, but every build has had some very nice improvements to it all.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  35. You must be right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Cancer didn't exist prior to the invention of the computer.

  36. Is this appropriate? by MimsyBoro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know this is Slashdot (News for ners etc.) but someone passed away. Is it really appropriate to talk about the marketshare of his programming work?

    I've had this discussion with people many times, but I personally think that people, even programmers, are worth more then the code they write. And I would personally perfer that people don't talk about my code when I pass-away.

    --
    God made the natural numbers; all else is the work of man - Kronecker
    1. Re:Is this appropriate? by continuouslife · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, I'm sure that when you pass away nobody will be talking about you.

      --
      Here's my witty comment about a signature. Ha. Ha.
    2. Re:Is this appropriate? by pimpimpim · · Score: 1
      I'm pretty sure people won't talk about my code when I pass away! And if they do, they won't be talking very nicely about it anyway ;)

      To Ivarsoy: thank you Sir! I'm a opera user for years now, and I'm really happy with it, saves a lot of nerves, so you're even helping my health I guess! Furthermore, you helped to make a lucrative business idea using free (though not "open") software, which is an example to others out there, it's possible!

      --
      molmod.com - computing tips from a molecular modeling
    3. Re:Is this appropriate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, plz don't pretend that you'll actually care about what ppl will post on slashdot after you're dead. Like you'd even care. Like WE'D even care. Holy crap/WTF/LOL dude plz get a brain.

  37. Re:that sux by pilsner.urquell · · Score: 1
    I've never used opera, but since it seems that this man's death is /. worthy, I'm thinking about trying it.

    Much more that /. worthy, 2 hours after being posted /. is the only news agency to honor Geir Ivarsoy's memory. Google News: Results 1 - 1 of 1 for Geir Ivarsoy. (0.01 seconds)

  38. Amen, Agreed ... Silent Post by FST777 · · Score: 1

    Silent Post II

    --
    Free beer is never free as in speech. Free speech is always free as in beer.
    1. Re:Amen, Agreed ... Silent Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you won't get insightful mod points for that.

  39. considerable success in the mobile phone market by Threni · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > While Opera hasn't had the same success as Firefox on the desktop, it has had
    > considerable success in the mobile phone market due to its speed and small
    > footprint, combined with excellent standards compliance and innovative
    > features."

    Plus the fact that there's a commercial organisation behind it, pushing it, as opposed to some other software being out there but with no motivation on the part of the programmers to actually get it put onto any devices...

    1. Re:considerable success in the mobile phone market by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the fact that it actually runs properly and well on the devices is a little bit more important. It doesn't matter how many people you have pushing your product if you product doesn't work well where you're trying to put it (not to put down Firefox, but it's a desktop product, not a mobile product, nobody should expect it to work there).

  40. Re:that sux by tender-matser · · Score: 1

    1. It has an option to ignore the author's
    stylesheets (shift-G). so many great
    web-designed pages become readable on my
    15'' monitor.
    2. It's easy to change all key bindings
    to make it feel like vi/less (for instance)
    3. It's easy to turn on/off annoying
    features on the fly (cookies, referrer
    reporting, javascript, etc)

  41. Ha Ha Asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Just how in the FUCK is that funny?

    1. Re:Ha Ha Asshole by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      How is it not?

      Ohh... He jokes about deaths! WARNING: UNFUNNY!

      --
      Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
    2. Re:Ha Ha Asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You guys are really tasteless. It's funny joking about someone you don't know dies, but if someone you love dies you would't appreciate jokes about it...
      Stop being pubertal.. You show a lack of maturity.
      Humor is a way of dealing with death? You don't need to deal with it as you are not affected.. I hope if someone you care about die that others are not that insensitive.. Seriously you Firefox fanboys have hit rock bottom today

  42. Rest In Peace by mortem · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the excellent browser. RIP

  43. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought it was funny.

  44. Re:In related news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep I laughed too

    Sometimes laughing at death is the best way to cope, cause fretting about it sure as hell won't make it pass you over.

  45. Dude.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't mess with Anonyous Coward. Remember, you can never defeat AC.

    Now go home. And take that dick out of your ass.

  46. The Fat Lady has sung. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The opera ain't over until the fat lady sings."

  47. But everything he copied was made in USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    But everything he copied was made in USA. Face it, what was the last thing anyone got made in Norway, all from Norway, who isn't from Norway? Seal pup boots don't count.

    1. Re:But everything he copied was made in USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      • Simula - The worlds first object oriented programming language. Invented in the 60's
      • GSM You may have heard about it :-)


      BTW: The first browser was made in Switzerland, so if anything, they "copied" from another European country.
  48. RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's tough to post in here without going on about what a great product Opera has turned out to be, but suffice it to say I use it on everything I can, it's always been ahead of it's time, and while I know none of the programmers personally they all deserve my many thanks and respect.

  49. In addition... by arafel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just went to the download site, selected Ubuntu, and there are packages for 5.10, 5.4, and 4.10. For most places, you're lucky to get "Debian-ish, if you're lucky".

    Making packages for Debian unstable and testing is definitely something most companies wouldn't do, though. Above and beyond the call of duty.

  50. Ignorant by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    It's ignorant to only consider the superficial aspect of what someone is trying to say, so please don't only consider the spelling but the actual message. It's the information, feeling, and sentiment that makes communication important, not the syntax.

  51. Bad News/Good News. by Picass0 · · Score: 0, Troll


    Sad news and my thouhts to the family.

    But the good news is there's still time to buy banner space on his casket!

  52. not the correct way by drewness · · Score: 1

    And anyway, this is an English web site. We use the English alphabet. The spelling was correct as an anglicized version.

    Actually, the correct way to handle ø if you don't have it is 'oe', so 'Ivarsoey' would be more correct.

    1. Re:not the correct way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but the English don't know about that :-)

      I have an ø in my name as well, but I actually write it using "o" if I have to order something from Amazon, because it looks better.

  53. So long, and thanks by garyozzy · · Score: 1

    for all the fish

  54. Re:that sux by mythz · · Score: 1

    Opera has a lot going for it. It is a lightweight standards compliant browser who's rendering engine still fits on a floppy disk today (if you take away the chrome). It is the second browser to pass the ACID2 compliance test (Safari was the first).

    It is also the best browser technology to work on embedded devices. Previously the best way to provide rich-content for embedded devices(e.g. mobile phones) you would have to use WML (basic markup for mobiles,etc). Instead Opera went a different route and chose to instead 'scale down' the web page so it would fit in the embedded devices, this allows the devices to be able to view much of the websites on the Internet. This is why its the choice browser in many embedded devices e.g. the Nokia 770.

    They are also the leading innovator in many browser technologies that we use today including Tabbed Browsing, mouse gestures, etc.

    I personally use it because it has the best IRC client available on OSX - and the browser is now available at no cost!

  55. RIP by ninjadroid · · Score: 1

    RIP

  56. Re:Amen... by ZzzzSleep · · Score: 1

    Rest in Peace...
    That's all that needs to be said really.

  57. ANYONE WITH MOD POINTS!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Parent post is clearly not off topic. It was modded down by a small minded person with a personal vendetta.

  58. this is eerie by esmrg · · Score: 1

    oddly enough, I decided to install and run opera for the very first time the same day the news story was released.
    Article:(Friday, 17. March 2006, 09:01:15)
    Install stamp: (Friday, March 17, 2006, 8:42:51 PM)
    I was very impressed with the software, as many are, and am now sad to hear of this loss.
    I also recommended opera to my sister, who uses MSIE over Firefox because the favorites button has a shiny star. I kid you not.

  59. Re:Passes Away? How About... by chawly · · Score: 1

    If we must be stupid and unfeeling, there is also "caught the bus" . To say nothing of such pearls as:-

    • took the last car for the Elysian Fields
    • paid the boatman (for being ferried across the river Styx)
    • returned his unused lunch tickets

    If we are going for the stupid and unfeeling, we must at least not stint.

    This said, I'm with you, I'm pretty sure that the fellow is dead and, given what he accomplished, a drum-roll is the very minimum. A burial with full honours seems not to be excessive.

    --
    How many beans make five, anyhow ? ... Charles Walmsley
  60. Your glory will live on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    May your humuliation of Micro$oft live forever in the history of tech.

    I paid for Opera and am gladly typing this from Opera v8.53.

    Thank You for allowing us to ignore that bloated pile of shit called IE.

    RIP