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Mozilla Lightning 0.1 Released
Mini-Geek writes "MozillaZine is reporting that Lightning 0.1 is released. Lightning is a new Mozilla-made calendar extension for Mozilla Thunderbird that will eventually (once it becomes more mature and stable) be built into Thunderbird. From the article: 'The Lightning Project is a redesign of the Calendar component. Its goal is to tightly integrate calendar functionality (scheduling, tasks, etc.) into Mozilla Thunderbird.'"
Why must calendar apps be merged with mail apps? Seriously?
Too bad my pocket PC will only properly sync with Outlook. Althoug to be honest Outlook 2003 is not that bad. I would still like to try an open source based e-mail client, but until it will sync with my PDA correctly I can't make the switch.
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Anyone remember this from like a year ago? I've switched from Windows to Linux, and I use Evolution just for its calendar feature (I've been using Gmail for my email with Firefox for at least a year now). It's great how it integrates with GNOME's calendar and shows appointments and the like.
Lightning? Hopefully it is useful to get people to switch away from Outlook, but its the lack of Exchange support that matters to most people, Hopefully that gets added soon!
good work mozilla lightning team!
What ever happened to Mozilla Sunbird? That was a calendar project too.
At work we use GroupWise, and I find the integration most annoying. There is no connection between when I want to check my calendar, and when I want to send or read mail. Not to mention that I hate the GroupWise mail client, and use another when possible. I also hate the GroupWise calendar client, but I don't know if there are alternatives (I obviously need access to the information entered by our secretary, and she need to se the meetings I have entered).
I understand that the calendars for the people in the workgroup need to be synchronized, but is email really the best protocol for that? And if so, does it need to be integrated in the same client?
I just hope they don't make thunderbird suck in the process. All I really want is a program that does mail that doesn't suck, and thunderbird is currently the closest I can find.
I personally do not need a calendar, and I would stall any thunderbird upgrade if it ever contains one.
Sleek, fast and trustworthy are a few keywords I put on the current thunderbird, and which is why I use it.
If they have to do it, make it optional as a plugin or extension, as with every other major non-mail related feature.
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I've seen it mentioned in this thread already, but I want to add my own emphasis.
At least for corporations, people are tied to the clock/calendar. You can't disrupt the old tool until you can work with the old tool. Or, at the very least, be able to send meeting requests and import old calendar information into your new tool.
It is the small things like the Calendar and PowerPoint and file formats which let expensive software cling to a corporation like a bad fungus.
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Agreed. The only reason i'm using Outlook Webaccess on my slackware box at home as opposed to Thunderbird is those god damned calender requests i keep getting from co-workers.
Sadly not. .Mac is one of the main reasons I'm thinking of moving to Macs entirely, new desktop and laptop. If they released a PDA, I would switch without a second thought.
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> Thunderbird that will eventually (once it becomes more mature and stable) be built into Thunderbird.
God I hope not. The whole point of splitting out Thunderbird and Firefox from the Uber Mozilla Suite was to keep each part simple, non bloated, and good at what they do on their own. Thunderbird is an email client, not a scheduling client. If people want to download an extension for scheduling, fine. But don't lather up Thunderbird with something that it probably doesn't need for most poeple.
Along the same lines, Firefox doesn't need to be a scheduling client either.
The biggest problem with this solution is that it's all client side. Outlook is a combination of client side and server side functionality. For example, if I accept a meeting request, put it on my calendar, and then go home. I can access my calendar from anywhere and see what my schedule is without having to connect to my desktop machine.
Now, sure, there are various workarounds. You could use a VPN and store all your calendar information on an smb share or nfs drive, but that's pretty slow, not to mention that it requires a great deal of configuration to set up.
Outlook/Exchange work very well for what they do, even if they suck in many other ways. The end user experience is largely "it just works" for every condition they might want.
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too late. I mean really, the calender in Mozilla sucked since it came out with Netscape Communicator 3.0 or so. There are other programs that fill the niche (Kalendar, evolution), but they are not perfect.
Having a good calendar application in Mozilla would certainly be nice. But at this glacial speed of development, I don't see it going mainstream any time soon.
rephrase, "MS Made-it-popular/got-people-used-to-it at levels-other-than-big-business"