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Fleischmann to Work on Commercial Fusion Heater

deeptrace writes "California company D2Fusion has announced they are hiring Dr. Martin Fleischmann (of 'Pons and Fleischmann' fame). The company belives that they can produce a commercial fusion based home heating prototype within a year. They are also looking at other applications, such as using it as a heat source for a commercially available Stirling electrical generator."

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  1. ...Fusion in a ... year? by punkguitarist · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Lets hope Dr.Martin Fleischmann doesn't embaress himself again. I very much doubt this too be true, but fusion in a year would be great!

    1. Re:...Fusion in a ... year? by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lets hope Dr.Martin Fleischmann doesn't embaress himself again.

      What has he got to lose? Work out the possible scenarios

      1. Fleischman is a crank and...
      1.1 He succeeds by accident.
            Success through monumental incompetence is indistinguishable from briliance to the general public.
            See Christopher Columbus. Fleischman will spend the rest of his life unjustly rubbing his
            detractors' noses in their public humiliation.
      1.2 He fails.
            Nobody's opinion of him changes. The only people who profess to believe him are credulous people
            and those who would exploit them. The people who've been saying he was a crank will be vindicated.
            The wait and see people will also feel vindicated, and continue to wait and see, as it's no skin of
            their proverbial noses.

      2. Fleischman is a misunderstood genius and ...
      2.1 He succeeds by dint of preserverence.
            Vindication is sweet. Fleischman will spend the rest of his life justly rubbing his
            detractors' noses in their public humiliation.
      2.2 He fails through no fault of his own.
            Nobody's opinion of him changes. The only people who profess to believe him are credulous people
            and those who would exploit them. The people who've been saying he was a crank will be vindicated.
            The wait and see people will also feel vindicated, and continue to wait and see, as it's no skin of
            their proverbial noses.

      The moral of the story will either way: it never pays to give up. The only thing at stake is whether future generations of school children will be forced to produced earnest essays drawing this conclusion from the story.

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  2. What? April 1st already? by pentalive · · Score: 5, Funny

    My first though was "What is it, April 1st?" heat a home with fusion?? Hmm nope, not april 1st. Rent is not due.

  3. Fusion ? by ultranova · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps it will fuse hydrogen atoms with oxygen atoms - after all, no one said anything about nuclear fusion, now did they ?-)

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    Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

  4. Re:What a load of crap by barawn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's kindof the crux of the problem, actually. Assuming their measurements are right (that's a bit of an assumption, but there are quite a few people who claim that Pd-D cells generate excess heat, so maybe it's not THAT crazy) they're correct that it has to be nuclear - the energy density required is too high for it to be chemical.

    But it doesn't have to be -fusion-. Palladium is past iron, so -in theory- you can gain energy by transmuting it downward, and some of them are claiming that they're seeing elements after the cell was run that weren't there before.

    I'm not saying they're right, of course. It's still physics that would break with standard nuclear physics, but I'm always surprised that they keep pushing it as -fusion-, when they clearly don't understand (and admit that they don't understand!) what (if anything) is going on.

    Note, incidentally, that if you read, for instance, the DOE report on anomalous heat from D-Pd cells, that both sides of the discussion are at fault here. A fair number of the criticisms ("your explanation doesn't agree with current theory, so it must be wrong!" even when the explanation is essentially "it must be nuclear, but we have no idea how") and arguments on both sides are pretty crappy.

  5. Home heating by fusion power - here already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've a fusion powered home heating source already.

    It's a south facing window.

  6. Fleishman found something, but what? by leftie · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is no question that Pons and Fleischmann discovered some kind of previous unknown phenomena in their U Utah lab in the late 1980's. The question is what? If Pons and Fleischmann send in their research to scientific journals saying we did this experiment and we regularly got excess heat we can't expalin and we don't know why, Pons and Fleischmann are heroes to the scientific community.

    Where Pons and Fleischmann made their mistake was rushing to the press to stick a label "Cold Fusion" to their unexplained phenomena that they even admitted they didn't really understand.

    Whatever the phenomenon Pons and Fleischmann discovered is, too many people have repeated similar work and been successful getting similar results.

    Mendel did a lot of great work on genetics and heredity without knowing a thing about DNA. I have a feeling the Pons and Fleischmann work will be a similar situation. They found an experiment that proves something in a science we are incapable of analyzing yet.

  7. Here's their SEC filing by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here's their SEC filing.. Remember, lies here are felonies.

    On August 18, 2005, the Company acquired D2Fusion Inc. ("D2Fusion"), as a wholly owned subsidiary in exchange for a five (5) year convertible debenture in the amount of two million dollars ($2,000,000) and an agreement to advance up to two million two hundred thousand ($2,200,000) in the form of loans over the next twelve (12) months to capitalize D2Fusion' initial business plan. The stock purchase agreement further commits the Company to assist D2Fusion to have direct access to public markets within the next six (6) months for the purpose of raising additional funds in excess of those committed by the Company. D2Fusion is a research and development company staffed by scientists and engineers working toward the delivery of proprietary solid-state fusion aimed at entry level heat and energy applications for homes and industry. Solid-state fusion is a technology more widely recognized under the name "cold-fusion." Unlike the reactions in "cold-fusion," D2Fusion technology uses much simpler and more reliable solid state processes more akin to high temperature super-conductor physics to produce and control radiation-free fusion reactions. In this simplest form of fusion two deterium atoms which are contained and constrained under solid state conditions fuse to form a single helium atom. Each new helium atom created is accompanied by an enormous energy release. Under ideal conditions, one gram of hydrogen fuel is equivalent to billions of watts of energy. Russ George and Dr. Tom Passell, who head the Palo Alto based company, have been involved with solid state fusion research since 1989. Successful experimental prototypes have been tested at Stanford Research Institute. The immediate intention of D2Fusion is to produce kilowatt scale thermal prototypes which will be further tested and refined by collaborating research groups in the Silicon Valley, Los Alamos, the US Navy, and Frascati, Italy. D2Fusion's ultimate goal is to produce heat and electricity at a fraction of today's cost with no emissions. The Company is well aware of the controversy surrounding "cold fusion" technology. However, the Company believes that there is sufficient global evidence that the risk/reward ratio merits investment. Should D2Fusion's prototype technology be scaled to commercial size it will help solve much of the world's energy, water, and pollution problems.

    That "successful experimental prototypes have been tested at Stanford Research Institute" line looks very suspicious. For one thing, there is no "Stanford Research Institute" today. It's been "SRI International" since 1970.