Online Test Measures Speed of your Brain

KingSkippus writes "According to CNet, a company named Posit Science has produced an online test using Flash that uses sounds to measure the speed of your brain down to the millisecond. According to the company, the test 'measures auditory processing (listening) speed—one of many measures of brain function...The faster we can take in information accurately, the better we can keep up with, respond to and remember what we hear.'"

Comments

Problems

[BWJones]

Problem: The linked test only works with Windows...... So, never mind.

Seriously though, this title is in a way, kinda bogus science in that it does not measure brain speed per se, but is more a measure of efficiency (a subtle but important difference). Basic central auditory response curves should be identical for most folks unless there is a processing delay like a developmental abnormality in one of the auditory nuclei or unless there is some pathology like Multiple Sclerosis (MS) which could bias the test and not be indicative of cognitive performance. Also, this test could be biased by damage to the cochlear hair cells that reduce ones frequency perception, but this apparent deficiency would have no real bearing on "brain speed" either.

If they are using this test to determine cognitive impairments such as Alzheimer's Disease, they should have some disclaimers present that explicitly point out that even mild hearing loss could compromise the results of this study among other causes.

And yes..... IAANS (I Am A NeuroScientist).

And it also appears that the author of the software is trying to sell it to "help people reduce the effects of aging", to which I say pffffft! Just stay physically and mentally active. Go running/walking/swimming/riding a bike and read books or hell, for your brain and auditory processing, even play video games (just make sure you get the physical exercise too and please continue to read books/newspapers). All of that is lots cheaper than forking out $500 for this software and likely more effective?

Re:Problems

[BWJones]

we're all familiar with plasticity, eg blind people who acquire acute hearing as a way of coping with their loss by "exercising" the parts of the brain that deal with hearing.

It should also be known that there is negative plasticity as well, such as the type that can be found in epilepsy, retinal degeneration and other neurodegenerative diseases.

There could be some legitimacy behind this program under these principals, couldn't there? If you constantly tax those parts of the brain through these tests, as those who are blind do every day, couldn't you reap the same benefits? Here's a snip of some of the benefits I'm talking about, taken from a clinical study on the subject.

You are absolutely correct, and there is some legitimacy to this. My objection was the lack of disclosure (and being Windows only) as well as pointing out that there are healthier and cheaper ways to accomplish the same results. i.e. One does not have to buy into dumbed down science and fork over $500 to get the same results.

Re:Problems

[hmahncke]

Hi,

I am the Vice President for Research and Outcomes at Posit Science, which means that among other things, I worked with the team that designed the on-line test and collected the relevant normative data. Like BWJones, IAANS - I did my Ph.D. with Mike Merzenich, the co-founder of the company, on temporal processing in cortical sensory systems (and worked with Blakestah when he was a postdoc there - althought a friend of mine, he's irascible enough that I guarantee he's not an astroturfer :-). I'd like to answer a few of BWJones thoughts:

1) brain speed and brain efficiency: BWJones is correct, there's a difference between brain speed and brain efficiency. In the interests of making an interesting on-line test, we called this brain speed because the threshold output is a reasonable measure of the minimum amount of time the brain requires to correctly identify and sequence two similar sounds. The task is relevant to the fundamental accuracy of the brain's ability to process auditory information and speech.

2) aging and brain speed: BWJones suggests that there should be no differences in these time order judgment (TOJ) thresholds across generally healthy populations, but only in pathological conditions like MS. However, it is the case that many elements of basic brain function, particularly including TOJ thresholds, change significantly over the the normal non-pathological course of aging. We've collected quite a lot of data on this topic over the past year, which is consistent with a large literature on changes in temporal processing (e.g., backward masking, temporal integration) that occur with normal aging.

3) ordinary physical and mental activity: it's absolutely the case that staying physically and mentally active is helpful. However, on the basis of our research and that of many others, we think that larger improvements are possible using appropriate tasks and stimuli that are specifically designed to renormalize the accuracy and speed with which the brain processes information using the principles of brain plasticity.

4) negative plasticity: BWJones mentioned negative plasticity. I agree completely - we have suggested (coming out this year in Progress in Brain Research) that normal age-related cognitive decline is contributed to by negative plastic processes in the CNS, and that appropriate designed training programs to reverse that negative plasticity are likely to improve perception, cognition, memory, and action.

It's nice to see at least a small group of neuroscientists here on slashdot...

Thanks,

Henry

What a joke

[gooberguy]

First, their test only works on windows systems. Secondly, it's just a ploy to get you to buy their stupid software for the low low price of $500.

But what if I'm smart enuf to see that it's bogus

[Harmonious Botch]

What if I'm smart enough to instantly recognize that this test is bogus?

OMG

[irimi_00]

OMG this makes me feel so stupid and incomptetant.

Go here to find out what a big racist, jingoist, judgemental biggot you are:
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/

Brain speed?

[gmerideth]

The flash component required to view "provides spacfic sounds" so the brain test didn't get past the spelling test before I cancelled it.

Incompatible...

[Cheesewhiz]

"We're Sorry. The current version of the Brain Speed Test is only available for Windows based computers. We are working a version that is compatible with Mac's."

DAMNIT! Why can't I get some friggin' SUPPORT here, people?!? It's the same lame excuse every time -- brain tests, operating systems, popular gaming titles, girlfriends: "Sorry...not compatible."

You know what, FINE! Keep your silly brain test... I'm going to go spend some quality time with my Mac, playing Breakout...

-c

Well, Microserf Brain Speed Anyways...

[Cheesewhiz]

Error Message from Site: We're Sorry. The current version of the Brain Speed Test is only available for Windows based computers.

If anyone was wondering why the average test score seemed a little on the LOW side...

Re:Well, Microserf Brain Speed Anyways...

[user24]

erm that would be funny, except that for this test, a lower score is better....

Re:I got a 27...where's my prize?

[Sebastopol]

Four of my friends took it and we all got 27!!!

Something smells rotten in Denmark...

Re:I got a 27...where's my prize?

[adolfojp]

I got a 27 also. This raises some suspicions.

Oblig. Homer Quote

[arrrrg]

So does this mean that I am smart, or that I'm just dumb faster?

Offtopic, but hilarious nonetheless:

Max Power (Homer): Kids, there's three ways to do things. The right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power way!
Bart: Isn't that the wrong way?
Max Power: Yeah, but faster! (Max runs into a cactus)

Hmm...

[Draconix]

We're Sorry

The current version of the Brain Speed Test is only available for Windows based computers. We are working a version that is compatible with Mac's.

Wow! Their brains are so fast they skipped over learning how to pluralize!