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New Griefer Punishment - Crucification
garylian writes "I found this interesting little news snippet from the game Roma Victor. Apparently, the game designers have decided that since their game is going to be based on realistic events that happened in the Roman Empire in Europe, there is nothing wrong with handing out punishments that were handed out in that time. The game's site has a letter from the Publisher's CEO explaining about how crucification is an appropriate form of punishment for in-game behavior. There are also pictures of the avatar hanging from his week-long perch."
It would be neat to have trolls crucified somewhere with their accounts suspended.
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As far as I know, it should be Crucifixion. And it's in the title even! We really need a -1 Spelling/Grammar mod.
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In my day, we put their heads on a pike and fed their bodies to the dogs, and we liked it.
Why not just strip them of their gear, and exile them from the city, never to return on penalty of death.
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As much as I'm against it in RL, for the simple reason that a one-time criminal is going to be branded as a criminal forever, it's a bit different for games. You can, after all, toss your character and start another one.
Is there a more literal way of "changing completely and becoming a very different person"?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Even though this game probably will not be the next Great Game, it will hopefully help stop the idea that crucification was special for Christ.
Maybe, but it's also spawned a monstrosity of a spelling mistake that seems to be infectious. I think it would be safest if we quarantine Slashdot and not let anyone leave until there's a curification for it.
Most Christians don't subscribe to the idea that only Christ was ever crucified. The Bible itself states that two criminals were crucified alongside Jesus and that crucifixion was a relatively common punishment. The uniqueness was in Christ himself, not in the exact means of death. Go troll somewhere else.
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That's "crucifixion", not "crucification", just for the record. As in "to be fixed to a cross (crucis)".
Crucifixion was in fact a fairly common form of punishment throughout much of the Roman Empire. It was both a particularly painful and notably humiliating way to die; victims often lingered in agony for days while being jeered at by passers-by. Few understand that Longinus did Jesus a huge favor when he stabbed him in the side with his spear.
It will be interesting to see how this punishment works out in Roma Victor. As the player will feel no pain, and loses only a week of game time while on the cross, the real punishment will come if others in the game take having been crucified as a mark of shame rather than a boastworthy accomplishment. Given typical online-game culture, I fear the latter is more likely.
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Interesting how this hubbub and article come out shortly before the game is scheduled to go live. Pre-order today!
Regardless, only a 7-day suspension? If they really wanted to punish the guy they'd change it so that on his next logon the offender was stuck playing an SOE game.
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I don't care what youre doing so much as the idiotic way you're doing it.
A line of prisoners files past a jailer.
Coordinator: Crucifixion?
Stan: Yes.
Next prisoner.
Stan: Er, no, freedom actually.
Coordinator: What?
Stan: Yeah, they said I hadn't done anything and I could go and live on an island somewhere.
Coordinator: Oh I say, that's very nice. Well, off you go then.
Stan: No, I'm just pulling your leg, it's crucifixion really.
laughing
Stan: Yes I know, out of the door, one cross each, line on the left.
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Who said crucifixion is special for Christ? It was a very common way of executing criminals in ancient times, actually it's older than the roman empire.
First it was a way of treating slaves that tried to escape, later, during the time of the emperors, it became the way of executing non-romans. That's the reason why Saulus/Paulus was executed with a sword instead of crucifixion (he was a Roman citizen).
Is there really anyone who thinks the Romans came up with crucifixion for Jesus? I mean, for them he was a quite ordinary criminal (and one they couldn't have cared less about to top it off), why'd they go to lengths and come up with an ingenious way to execute him?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Not being able to play is actually a fairly effective punishment. We used to use that back on the MUD I worked on. We would "hell" players. You just issued a command in the form of hell . They would then be sent to hell, which was a location where they couldn't do anything. They could still talk to people, they just couldn't play the game. In more severe cases, we'd ban them from connecting, but hell provided a good intermediary. It also had the deterrant effect in that they'd sit and whine to all their friends about it (it was amazing how much time people would spend logged in when they couldn't play). It was actually generally more effective in cases to hell someone and silence them so they'd just sit and stew about it (why they didn't just log off I'll never know) than to outright ban them.
So I imagine it will not be so much about the shame, but just about not being able to play. It's just a more amusing way to do bans for all involved. I know if someone had broken the rules and it affected me, I'd take pleasure from seeing them up on a cross, knowing they were in time out effectively.
To check that he's dead. The fact that both red and clear liquids come out is the medical evidence that convinces doctors that he was in fact dead.
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In my day, we put their heads on a pike and fed their bodies to the dogs, and we liked it.
If you're going to use an old formula for a joke, get it right. The formula is:
In my day, [we did something horrible and exaggerated to ourselves] and we liked it.
Examples:
- In my day, we walked ten miles to school in sleet and hail, uphill both ways, and we liked it.
- In my day, we played computer games off of LP records. If you wanted to write your own, you'd have to get a needle and a magnifying glass, but we liked it that way.
The whole joke is doing something ridiculous and unpleasant and liking it ('cause you weren't spoiled like rotten kids today). It's not really all that incongruous to say that you did horrible things to other people and liked it. That's just human history right there. What exactly implies that kids are spoiled today for not getting to put their enemies' heads up on pikes?
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Now, come on. How active can you be if you're NAILED TO A TREE? Do you have to hang there all day tapping your toes and singing "Always look on the bright side of life"? Or maybe scream out "I'm Spartacus!" at any passer-by?
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Crucification for the monstruosity! Crucificy him!
Far as I know there were several crucifixions in the 20th century.
Didn't the Nazis crucify a few people in a concentration camp as part of an experiment?
Also. In some catholic cultures a few zealots are crucified on Good Friday each year. Unlike other crucifixions however these people 1. Volunteer for the "procedure" and 2. are removed from the cross on the same day and provided medical attention. The usually survive.
Crucifixion was a very slow torturous execution. Men would hang on crosses for days before they died.
Well it did say Britain. All the crucifixions of which I spoke are in other countries.
--= Isn't it surprising how badly I spell ?
I seem to remember that modern experiments, first by the Nazis on prisoners and later by professors on grad students, showed that if you were crucified as shown in the screen shots you'd probably exhaust yourself then die of asphyxiation within six hours.
It they REALLY didn't like you they'd give you a little seat to sit on. Then you could last until you died of dehydration (a couple days) or I guess of starvation if they really, really didn't like you.
I have not only friends, but family members pretty much all across the political spectrum. If you're so overzealous about your progressive, liberal, uber-tolerant views that you can't stand to be around a 'conservative'. And which flavor of conservative, might I ask?
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by professors on grad students
That is a joke right?
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