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Microsoft Joins OpenDocument Alliance

Jim writes "Microsoft has joined a committee that has a key role in the ratification of OpenDocument as an international standard, leading to accusations that it intends to sabotage the process. Microsoft has denied this accusation, claiming that the only reason why Microsoft employee Jim Thatcher has joined the group was to get involved in the ISO standardisation of its own file format." From the article: "'There sits Microsoft, waiting, like a spider,' wrote Jones, in a posting on her site. 'I am imagining ODF plodding along, with Microsoft asking questions, fine-combing through the comments, did you mean this or that?, getting bogged down in minutia until, lo and behold, either Microsoft's XML makes it as an ISO standard first, or they arrive neck and neck.'" More information here on a subject we touched on in a recent Slashback. update a few readers have asked for the clarification that MSFT has not joined ODF, but rather the "INCITS/V1 Technical Committee"

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  1. Jesus Christ by killmenow · · Score: 5, Informative

    Could you PLEASE fix the headline?! Microsoft most definitely DID NOT JOIN the OpenDocument Alliance. ODA is the group who is trying to push for ODF adoption. Microsoft can join if they want, but they don't want.

    They joined the INCITS/V1 Technical Committee. They're not even remotely the same thing and don't even look remotely similar (ODA vs INCITS). Way to go on the asinine headline Zonk.

  2. why would they sabotage it? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't imagine why anyone would think that Microsoft would sabotage this project. After all, their past statements clearly show that they fully support it.

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  3. Re:Imperial March by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Why did I hear the Imperial March when I read this story?"

    Because you're a hopeless nerd who has trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality, and is prone to exaggeration and paranoia?

  4. Conspiracy theories too soon by smallpaul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Guys: I am a member of the group that Microsoft joined, JTC1 SC34. This is a very broad group that encompasses SGML, XML, HyTime, topic maps, Font Interchange and ODF. As per Microsoft's claim, it would probably include Microsoft's formats when they show up at ISO.

    http://www.jtc1sc34.org/#scope

    The Slashdot heading is VERY incorrect and biased against Microsoft.

  5. Re:is this a joke? by towsonu2003 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Overrated -1
    Overrated? Tell that to my boss, who has Word 2000 and can't open the brochures I prepare in word 2003 (same office building, bad IT). So I end up downloading Portable OpenOffice because I have no administrative right to install a pdf printer, open my Word doc in OOo, fix it, export to pdf, and send that... And I get overrated. peh!
  6. Re:Unfair... by KDN · · Score: 5, Informative
    We damn Microsoft if they do, and damn them if they don't.

    To badly paraphase Forest Gump, "Damnable is as damnable does". If Microsoft is either quiet or makes positive contributions to the ODF standard, more power to them and maybe they will become a good corporate citizen.

    But if history is any guide, they will do everything in their power to beat the standard into the ground and anyone who supports it. They will do everything from dirty tricks (remember DRDOS?) to patent litigation (OpenGL), just ignore your patent (Stacker), to "growing the polluted environment" (Java) to "cutting off the air supply" (Netscape) to making incompatible versions (Kerberos, CHAP, DNS, TCP) to "put the competition on a treadmill" (everyone) to FUD (Linux and GPL are a cancer).

  7. Re:eerily familiar by _xeno_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dr. Weird: GENTLEMEN! I give you - MORE STANDARDS MICROSOFT IS INVOLVED WITH!

    Assistant: Well, gee, I dunno, last time...

    Dr. Weird: THIS TIME WILL BE DIFFERENT!

    Assistant: Well, OK, we could use Microsoft's support after all, and -

    Microsoft starts adding in .Net components and ActiveX controls

    Assistant: AEEEIEEE!!

    Dr. Weird: It's not different at all, is it, Steve?!

    Ballmer: Steve smash! Throws a chair at the assistant

    Dr. Weird & Ballmer: Maniacal Laughter

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  8. Deja Vu - JAVA by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I remember M$ infiltrating some JAVA organization and then tried to derail the standard by releasing their own Windows-centric JAVA engine. Sun successfully sued them for breach of contract and the M$ JAVA engine was pulled off the market.

    There was some reluctance from members of that JAVA organization back then too, and their worst fears proved correct.

    Other examples of the same M$ infiltration method are out there and they earned a reputation that they cannot be trusted on a standards organization.

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