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Iran Cracks Down on Bloggers

Wired News is reporting that dozens of Iranian Bloggers have been met with harassment by the government and some have even been arrested for voicing dissenting views in recent history. The article takes a look at some of the bloggers who are fighting for their rights and how. From the article: "The Iranian blogging community, known as Weblogistan, is relatively new. It sprang to life in 2001 after hard-liners -- fighting back against a reformist president -- shut down more than 100 newspapers and magazines, and detained writers. At the time, Derakhshan posted instructions on the internet in Farsi on how to set up a weblog."

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  1. Ah, so this is the... by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...free and tolerant Islamic society we hear so much about!

    (All religions are intolerant of each other, because each religion defines a mutually-exclusive lock on a God they believe exists (or in atheism's case, doesn't exist). Each religion fights over that lock, and therein lies the religious conflict. And all this fighting assumes their God -- or any god -- actually even exists; over 2000 years of non-proval of a god's existence sure paves the way towards a high probability that he/she/it does not.)

  2. Islamic state != freedom of speech by pugdk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The article takes a look at some of the bloggers who are fighting for their rights and how."

    Now, what exactly are those rights? I believe the only right you have in a state which is currently under the rule of Sharia ("Islamic law") is the right to remain *OBEDIENT* at all times.

    This whole blogging business doesn't seem very obedient to me... so exactly what rights are they fighting for? A change of religion? :D

    -pug

  3. Re:Relativism by Ravenscall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Compare that to Islam! Islam's relationship with other faiths is absolutely abysmal.

    Aye, just like the 5000+ member Christian church up the street from me that says gays should be executed and all other religions are Satan's tools to mislead people from the One True Faith. Except Jews, they are all just going to hell for killing Jesus.

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  4. Re:Nigger, nigger, nigger by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I think he was making the not-so-subtle point that every country and every political persuasion favors censorship of some form of free speech. As a social libertarian myself, I would also like to say:

    FIRE!!!!

    -Eric

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  5. Re:Democracy and fascism. by Yvanhoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Democracy ? Where ?
    Opposants arrested before the election, partisan commitee invalidating many opposants candidature, a "Supreme guide" able to veto or force a law...
    Elections does not imply democracy.

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  6. I Have 100 Times More Respect for Iranian Bloggers by aquatone282 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    . . . who are persecuted by their totalitarian government for exercising their natural rights than for the false bravado and excessive hubris of our own "dissidents."

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    What?
  7. Anne Frank and Freedom of Speech by ehiris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just went to the Anne Frank museum in Amsterdam and the strongest things that stood out are:

    - The first freedom to go for anyone before total authoritarian dictatorship is the freedom of speech.
    - Repressing government are usually very very afraid of the spoken word.
    - Anne Frank's diary and history is one of the strongest evidences of the Nazi oppression and attempt to bring certain races to extinction.

    Look at the Mohamed drawings issue. The extremists didn't really care about depictions of Mohamed. What their problem with those depictions is, is the freedom of speech. They are afraid they'll no longer be able to brainwash free people into stupid theocratic thinking. They are afraid that they will no longer be able to engage humans into blowing themselves up in order to fulfill a focus group god'$ prophecies.

    Makes me puke that we don't even want to keep the freedom of speech around in the US but it makes sense why it had to be legislated. Everyone who tries to control someone will attempt to take that freedom of speech away.

  8. Re:Iran is a theocracy by BakaHoushi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To be fair, here in the U.S. is the choice of who runs for high offices really open to much choice? Democrat or Republican, many felt that both choices were awful (and I intend to agree). Pretty much the same can be said of any third party candidate, too. As South Park has explained so well, pretty much every election in history has been about choosing between a douche and a turd, when in reality you wouldn't likely ever choose either one.

    There is a key difference, though, that I will openly admit. Voting for a U.S. president (or senator, or representative, etc.) is basically choosing which jark will try to screw you and censor you. In these elections, such as Iran's, IMHO, it's essentially about choosing who's going to try and kill who and censor you. (A bit of a generalization, I'll admit)

  9. The Mohammad Cartoons were a distraction by ianscot · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Look at the Mohamed drawings issue. The extremists didn't really care about depictions of Mohamed. What their problem with those depictions is, is the freedom of speech. They are afraid they'll no longer be able to brainwash free people into stupid theocratic thinking. They are afraid that they will no longer be able to engage humans into blowing themselves up in order to fulfill a focus group god'$ prophecies.

    Leaders across the authoritarian states of the M.E. use "issues" like those drawings as a way to vent the frustration of their own people toward "the west." They manipulate whatever-it-is as a sort of social "wedge issue" to keep people angry at someone else. That's what the cartoons thing was about.

    Think Gay Marriage. Gay Marriage is something we should deal with, okay -- I'm for it, basically -- but is it among the biggest challenges for our society when compared to economic, environmental, foreign, and every other kind of policy in this country being run with only the enormous multinational business interests at the table and nobody from any other perspective having a voice? The monied interests behind the old Republican party discovered after the civil rights movement that they could patch together a coalition of fearful social conservatives and keep those fears yoked up to the party's economic interests. When the rank and file get upset, lo and behold, there will always be a distracting social "issue" to motivate them again. (Janet Jackson's bustier popped open -- OMG! OMG! Society is breaking down! Election cycle -- Oh No! Pass a bunch of anti-Gay-Marriage amendments, it's a crisis!)

    It's all about preserving authority, not about the specific faiths involved. Authoritarian religion turns to demagoguery like this to release pressure.

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  10. And this is suprising because ... by Horatio_Hellpop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... why? Iran's entire "government" is based on radical Islam -- meaning, "kill everyone who doesn't believe in Allah." Not sure why this is news. This is how it is, and how it ever will be, with most Muslim countries.

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    1. Re:And this is suprising because ... by alphafoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What is surprising is that someone modded your demonstrably untrue comment up. What would be surprising to me is if you have ever actually been to a predominantly Muslim country, or sat down with a Muslim for a meal.

      First, Christians and Jews all believe in Allah, just like Muslims do. Arab Christians actually do not speak American English when they pray. They speak Arabic, and so they say Allah where someone else might say God.

      There are over a billion Muslims on this planet, and I would argue that only a mondest fraction of them want to chop your head off. These billion or so people inhabit large populated countries like Indonesia, and Turkey, where non-Muslims can often be spotted with their heads attached to their shoulders. Even repressive regimes like Syria allow folks to worship Jesus. Sometimes you'll even see a Christian found an ideology around Arab Nationalism and hold high positions in government office.

      It is beyond arrogant to think that countries and people are unable to change. I imagine my European forefathers, stagnating for centuries in the Middle Ages, would have felt slighted had they heard the educated and cultured and enlighted Muslims of the day talking about how Europeans would always be that way.

  11. Re:Iran and stalinism by replicant108 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are referring to Iran's brief brush with Stalinism, when the "one man, one vote, one election" dictator Muhammad Mussadegh sought to make Iran's oil wealth his personal property

    Despite your ludicrous slur, it remains a fact that Mossadegh was a democratically elected leader and that the Iranian parliament voted to nationalize Iran's oil industry.

    While the Shah and the US had some agreement [...] he wasn't the US's puppet. He tended to jerk the US around more than the US jerked his strings.

    Not a good puppet perhaps, but a puppet nonetheless.

    It is amusing that you call the democratically elected Mossadegh a 'dictator', and describe the US-installed despot as 'very enlightened'.