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Australian Parliament Approves Email Snooping

brindafella writes "The Sydney Morning Herald newspaper, reporting on a legislative change last week, says 'the [Australian] Government will have 12 months to access communications not only between the B-party and the suspect, but also between the B-party and anyone else. If you have unwittingly communicated with a suspect (and thereby become a B-party), the Government may be able to monitor all your conversations with family members, friends, work colleagues, your lawyer and your doctor.' The Australian Parliament's major parties combined to pass an amendment to the Telecommunications (Interception) Amendment Act 1979."

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  1. It Won't Apply To Me by Elvis77 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm a programmer, I don't have any friends...

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  2. Australian Politics Gone Mad by syousef · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously these politicians have just gone plain loopy and it's all because the labour party has gone into a tailspin.

    State labour in NSW (where Sydney is and the biggest state) has been unable to fix Sydney's transport problem and keeps closing roads around new tollways stuffing up public transport...not to mention they haven't been able to improve a constantly deteriorating health care system. Federal labour can't get enough votes to put up any serious opposition and the opposing party has a majority in both houses. The young labour party has recently been in the papers for calling for conscription - a total about face on their previous postion. Recently the labour party also did an about face on their position regarding forcing ISPs to filter pornography (and are now in favour of this with all of its technical problems). What's more they have personality issues within the party (nothing new in politics but this is when a party has to band together to survive).

    I'm an Australian who feels I have zero representation. Not one politician here is even trying to make this country better...not even for the votes.

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  3. Typical of Australia by caitsith01 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is typical of the current government's attitude to privacy and telecommunications. The Telecommunications Act already allows for seizure of computers and other equipment when it is 'connected with' offences under the Spam Act, for example. There is also evidence that the government has been confiscating and destroying personal computers without a warrant when they contain 'sensitive' information.

    All of this is part of a broader lack of accountability, due process and transparency that is becoming part of the culture of Australian lawmaking. There is a good article on the subject here.

    For those from more sensible countries, supposedly democratic Australia currently has the following features:

    1. One party entirely in control of both houses of parliament
    2. No bill of rights, either legislative or constitutional
    3. Legislation allowing for the arrest, detention, and interrogation without charge of persons not suspected of any offence if they may have information that is somehow relevant to a suspected terrorist offence; the onus of proof is reversed so that the person being interrogated must prove that they do NOT have any such information.
    4. One of the highest rates of phone tapping in the world
    5. Unelected bureacrats empowered to spy on Australians with no parliamentary oversight to speak of
    6. Several semi-secret US intelligence bases operating on our soil
    7. New crimes of sedition for exercising free speech in a manner that encourages the overthrow of the government
    8. Troops in Iraq despite over 80% of the population opposing our involvement before the war
    At the moment we also have an extremely disturbing rise in racial and religious intolerance, which in my opinion is in no small part attributable to the federal government's policies and fearmongering on those issues. But of course, this doesn't stop us selling weapons-grade uranium to China because they weeeeally promise to use it for civilian purposes only.

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    1. Re:Typical of Australia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In the good ol' U S of A:

      1. One party entirely in control of both houses of parliament
      Check!
      2. No bill of rights, either legislative or constitutional
      Ok, you got us there
      3. Legislation allowing for the arrest, detention, and interrogation without charge of persons not suspected of any offence if they may have information that is somehow relevant to a suspected terrorist offence; the onus of proof is reversed so that the person being interrogated must prove that they do NOT have any such information.
      Pfft, legislation is for dweebs. Just ask Dubya
      4. One of the highest rates of phone tapping in the world
      Hmm, don't know enough to comment, sorry
      5. Unelected bureacrats empowered to spy on Australians with no parliamentary oversight to speak of
      Elected officials empowering agencies to spy on Americans with no oversight to speak of, check!
      6. Several semi-secret US intelligence bases operating on our soil
      Check!
      7. New crimes of sedition for exercising free speech in a manner that encourages the overthrow of the government
      Check! But really, see #3
      8. Troops in Iraq despite over 80% of the population opposing our involvement before the war
      Dunno about 80%, but sure does feel way over 50...

      At the moment we also have an extremely disturbing rise in racial and religious intolerance, which in my opinion is in no small part attributable to the federal government's policies and fearmongering on those issues. But of course, this doesn't stop us selling weapons-grade uranium to China because they weeeeally promise to use it for civilian purposes only.
      Check!

      Sadly, this looks like the state of affairs all around the world :(

  4. Links? by vk2tds · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not sure if anyone has looked at the links to this article, but the text to the amendment to the act cited at the end of the article was approved in 2004, and is not related at all. In fact the amendment to the act was slightly changed with an 18 month period listed instead of 12 months.

    The admenment act is basically just, as far as I can tell, making some parts of the act plainer, saying that a router which buffers packets in memory is not actually storing those packets just because it needs to store them for a few milliseconds. It also clarifies that VoIP is not stored communications.

    Any citations of the actual amendment?

    Darryl

  5. Chain letter by kooshvt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just start a chain letter to everyone you know and make sure to CC all the politicians so they will also be subject to monitoring. Let them know they have now become a B-party. If every politician becomes a B-party to every citizen they may reconsider their actions.

  6. Re:Welcome to 1984 by pe1chl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the terrorists have won, they have fundamentally changed our societies

    It has amazed me for a long time that major politicians fail to see this, or at least act as if they do so.
    5 years go, all "free western country" politicians were telling you that freedom was the highest goal in life, that communism was lack of freedom and so it was bad, that totalitarian governments were evil, etc.
    They were also claiming they would never negotiate with - or give in to terrorists because that would mean the end of this sacred freedom.

    And now, they are taking away all freedom at will to "combat" a problem that is mostly caused by their own behaviour. Freedom suddenly is worth nothing, now "security" is the buzzword. All other priorities and values have to give way to this.

    Wouldn't it be better to look at the reasons for terrorism and do something about that, than to always try to "fight a war" against it?
    Terrorism is a byproduct of fighting wars against defenseless minority groups, and so fighting a war against terrorism is completely counter-productive.

  7. Redneck agenda.... by MickDownUnder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This does not surprise me, as an Australian I can say that I've definitely noticed a slide into a very right wing agenda here. The current government is right wing and has an absolute majority in our parliament, meaning they can pretty much pass any law or any bill they want without the chance it might be vetoed by opposition parties.

    I've been out of Australia for quite some time, I've found there to be quite a contrast to the Australia I left more than a year ago. I arrived back here just a couple of days before the Cronulla Race Riots. Since then our leaders have been spouting racist generalisations. There has been a large police crack down, the muslim community have made many claims that they are being unfairly targeted, I can personally verify this as on two occasions I've personally witnessed police unfairly targeting muslim men. I've also noticed since the riots (where our flag was used as a symbol of racial hatred), many police cars have had Australian flags mounted to their cars. I can't help thinking this is a sign of solidarity with the rascist mob.

    I really don't even know how these riots could have occurred without police complicity. We have Racial Villification Laws here in Australia, that if they were applied that day could have been used to arrest most of the mob that day before any violence even began.

    And with all this, in the background we have our detention camps in which whole families including children have been kept in detention. There have been cases where children have basically grown up in detention.

    Unless there's a big turn around here I think the future for Australia could be something straight out of Huxely's Brave New World or 1984.