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Red Hat Gives up on Fedora Foundation
phaedo00 writes "Ars Technica writes up Red Hat's giving up on the Fedora Foundation: 'In an open letter distributed to the Fedora community earlier this week, Red Hat employee and Fedora project leader Max Spevack states that Red Hat is no longer interested in establishing an autonomous, nonprofit foundation to manage the Fedora project. Instead, Red Hat will revive the Fedora Project Board, which will include five Red Hat representatives, four members of the Fedora community, and a chairman appointed by Red Hat who will possess veto power.'"
A lot of people support red hat on the principal that they are trying to get the world to adopt something which is open at its core... why are open source proponents turning a blind eye to how Red Hat's actions and nonconducive to the open source ideal?
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RPM sucks! DEB rulez!
I have no doubt that there will be numerous unhappy people that Red Hat is going to keep a hardness on the Fedora project. Perhaps other community members will express interest in setting up the foundation: It's a good idea to have a open source project not intended to be incorporated into Red Hat not being governed by Red Hat.
Who knows, they could be the next M$!
Let the flaming commense.
I'd like to ask the linux community, is Red Hat still relevant?
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get rid of this damn foundation. I want it back under the system it had when Dan Robbins was here, and I want him back
These pricks running the show now are idiots
I love Gentoo. Go ahead and flame away. Yes I am a Gentoo zealot
I'm sorry but everything is Ubuntu nowadays.
I really believe the RPM format is what killed Fedora because they otherwise had big bucks behind the distro. You just can't cover up flaws like that though. I know they have come out with newer stuff like yum and apt for RPM but it's too late and that stuff is shoehorned into an existing infrastructure that wasn't meant to work like that (and again, too many options is confusing for the user). I mean that up2date thing is slow as hell compared to apt. Try using a Fedora Desktop evironment on a 166 Mhz Pentium machine. It's no picnic with Ubuntu either but using Fedora is beyond absurdly slow. I could complain about most distros in this repect, Windows XP screams on a 166 Mhz machine (no kidding!) compared to any Linux distro except the barely functional (read: ugly) distros that use things like XFCE (gag).
There are FAR better *nix based OSes out there that aren't nearly as troublesome as the redhate/fagora project. If you want uber simplicity, why not use FreeBSD? Need a webserver up and running in 20 minutes- how about OpenBSD?
Fedora will never be a fully functional production OS, for it's in the conflict with Red Hat's ability to sell its "enterprise" products.
Good point.
For people who need a stable, secure, easy to maintain OS to run their production systems I would recommend Debian.
That's great, but what if you want something usable? Debian's packages are so old that it's mostly irrelevant in situations where you need to interoperate with any windows technology.
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When they dropped the desktop marked they already signed their death wish. Everybody I know is running umbuntu and for the servers that own redhat enterprise is going to be removed and loaded with umbuntu. It doesn't take long to despise RPM files after running APT.
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I have been a big redhat fan ever since 4.2. A fried turned me on to it. "Look," he said, "you can just download it, and it works!" I was psyched. And this has pretty much been my career over the last 10 years -- download Redhat, install it, and it works. It has always worked, and been a reliable brand in operating systems.
I was okay when they split off Fedora from their Enterprise package. I went with Fedora, seemed to work okay. I wanted to try out FC5 when it came out a few weeks ago, on my recent purchase of an old Dell C640. Oddly enough, It wouldn't get past the lilo prompt on any CD I burned. So, I tried out CENTOS.
CENTOS seems to be just like Redhat's flavored GNU/Linux. It has everything I want, except for PINE and windowmaker. It makes an okay workstation, and I am already used to the file locations, package management, and general 'feel' for the environment.
Now that Redhat is abandoning Fedora, there's no reason I should use it anymore. Kudos to the CENTOS crew, you've made a convert.
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One more reason why Assbuntu is Fedora/GNAA as the major community-led Linux distribution that aims to be easy to use.
Red Hat has done it again. The fact is, this is TWICE they have said "piss-off" to the Open Source community. They need to make money, and Fedora brings them ZERO revenue. Frankly, until someone buys Red Hat (as Novell did SuSE) that has some real cash behind them, I wouldn't look for anything free from Red Hat. It just isn't good economics, and all the Fedora users in the world are not going to keep the lights on...only paying customers of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
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So let me get this straight:
They were going to spin off Fedora and let it grow based on its technical merits, and actually come out with *gasp* stable versions like the OpenSuSE project and attract more developers. . . and now they want to kill off any progress they might have made?
Typical Redhat thinking. This reminds me of their being the dominant desktop distribution and then they cut the cord on the desktop product.
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