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Interview with Debian's New Project Leader

With the recent news that Anthony Towns will be taking over as the Debian Project Leader, Linux.com took a few minutes to sit down and feel out the new DPL-elect. From the interview: "The immediate plan is to organize the various ideas I've had so that I can work out which ones are actually worth working on, and what order to do them in; and to make sure that all the people who volunteered to be DPL during the campaign, or offered their help don't go away without some good ideas about extra things they can do. "

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  1. ftpmaster by th173 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am not happy with an ftpmaster as new project leader. They were the cause why the last one gave up.

    But on the other hand, there is finally a chance for some movement and some chances; both are needed by this brilliant and outstanding project which is completely stuck by politics now; just like "the real life"(tm) *sigh*.

    --
    There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want. --Calvin
  2. It's not that easy by lanc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One needs a stable _and_ fresh distro.
    Debian is stable. period.
    And bureaucratic.
    and many others base their work on it and give nothing back.
    and Debian moves as slowly as a rheumatic snake.

    BUT

    Debian is still the least bad. ( != best, that is nonexistent for years now)

    --
    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
    1. Re:It's not that easy by jZnat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Debian doesn't really move slow at all; the only perceived slowness is in the stable distribution. If you keep up to date with unstable (which will literally always have something to update for you every day), you'd notice that they keep up to date with the majority of its software. For instance, KOffice 1.5 just came out, and it's available in Debian Sid (unstable) and thusly also available in Ubuntu Dapper (they keep their developmental releases in sync with Sid until a release-freeze starts every six months).

      --
      'Yes, firefox is indeed greater than women. Can women block pops up for you? No. Can Firefox show you naked women? Yes.'
  3. First suggestion for the new chap: by caluml · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know what most pisses me off about Debian? I can't apt-get install mod_security because of their licencing issues.
    I'm really glad they have principles. I really am. I admire them for sticking to their guns. But because of this, I have to jump through hoops, and use third party packages, or install the apache source packages and build against them.
    It's all a lot of faffing around. Have 2 repositories. One for people that want only the most GPL'd, clean packages. And another one where they put the same packages, as well as the ones that people want.
    Debian aren't going to change the world with this system, and they're just going to make it hard for people to have a complete system as they want.

    Now, here come all the posts telling me "You just need to do this", or "Point your apt at this server", or x, y, z. Why not just have a setup flag or a config file - perhaps if /etc/allow-other-packages exists, it works.

    1. Re:First suggestion for the new chap: by Jorgensen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I'm really glad they have principles."...

      "Debian aren't going to change the world with this system, and they're just going to make it hard for people to have a complete system as they want."

      Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. Either it's OK for Debian to have principles (and thus Debian is doing the "right thing") or Debian should forego the principles to make it easier for you to not abide them?

      Logic Error. Parsing abandoned.

  4. Re:The "best" distro right now... by lanc · · Score: 2, Insightful
    * Debian is a super-stable FLOSS-only server OS
    Stable, no question about that. But always outdated.

    marvin:~# for i in mysql-server tomcat4 tomcat5 postgresql ; do echo $i ; apt-cache show $i | grep ^Version ; done
    mysql-server
    Version: 4.0.24-10sarge1
    Version: 4.0.24-10
    tomcat4
    Version: 4.1.31-3
    tomcat5
    W: Unable to locate package tomcat5
    E: No packages found
    postgresql
    Version: 7.4.7-6sarge1
    marvin:~#


    yes, I am aware of apt-get source -b ... but the more machines I administer, the less magic I want to do on them. Don't get me wrong - I was/am/willbe a debian admin - just don't get overenthiusiastic.

    --
    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
  5. Not a job I'd want... by Cumikaze · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That has to be one of the most difficult jobs in Debian. I couldn't imagine having to deal with over a thousand maintainers/developers all screaming for something different. So good luck to the new DPL!


    A few things that would be good for this year:

    1. Get AMD64 release into the main pool, enough already. Don't wait until December or whatever for Etch - just get it done!

    2. Get security.d.o mirrored on a few more servers.

    3. Try and trim the releases down to every 12 months (or less!) and drop the "when it's ready" attitude because that just drives people away.

    4. (related to #3) If it's broken, don't include it, but don't hold up a release because of it - put it in "proposed updates" or something when it's fixed.

    5. If it's ready for most archs, but not one (i.e. m68k) release anyway and m68k can just play catch up...

  6. Debian best for the enterprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Debian is the best disro for the enterprise, for it is stable (as in "doesn't crash AND doesn't change very often).

    If Debian were to make major release more often than once in two (2) years then, I guess, we would have to be looking for something more stable. One release in three (3) years would probably be the best, from our point of view.