Boot Camp Flaw Leaves Some Users Fuming

Karl Cocknozzle writes "Some users who chose to install Apple's recent beta-offering of Boot Camp without basic precautions (like a full backup) have found themselves unable to boot their Macs to OS X. In a discussion thread on Apple's technical support Web site, more than a dozen users reported that Boot Camp successfully partitioned their hard drive and allowed them to install a working version of Windows, but then would no longer allow them to switch back. The download-agreement page for Boot Camp contains the explicit warning that Boot Camp is still 'Beta' software, and would not be supported if problems arose. On the whole, it sounds like the number of affected users is quite small, but may reflect a common lack of knowledge of what a 'beta' release really is: Not ready for prime-time."

Comments

And this make the news?

[WebHostingGuy]

While it is interesting . . . but if you have ever tried dual booting with Windows the first couple of times you always find out that Windows will boot and the other operating system is screwed up. I mean seriously - when has dual booting with Windows "ever" worked out of the box? It seeks always to dominate and does not ever like to share.

And people, people, please figure out what a beta is... sheesh.

Re:And this make the news?

[deadlinegrunt]

Really? As opposed to any other *nix distros that uses lilo or grub? Or do you mean that you DO NOT have to install Windows first THEN your other non-windows operating systems? Curious what makes SuSE stand out in this instance. Windows has always been a pain in regard to playing nice with anything non-windows it touches - and this isn't a group think /. moronic troll, just the simple truth...Like installing Windows AFTER you have some other OS installed.

Re:And this make the news?

[slamb]

back when I took software engineering the definition I was given for beta was: has major bugs but will not lose user data.

It sounds from the article like it doesn't lose data. The complaining users are saying things like this:

"This isn't a minor glitch, but a major problem. Barring erasing my drive and reinstalling OS X, I am stuck with an Apple laptop that only runs Windows," wrote a user. "I don't want solutions that entail using the command line. I would like something from Apple saying that they recognize the problem and are working on it."

There's no data loss here. He can restore the system using the commandline but won't because he refuses to learn. He shouldn't be using beta software.

Your college definition of beta is oversimplified, anyway:

• Betas are released to a wider audience than alphas. The purpose is to find problems. If no one released a beta until they were absolutely confident there's no data loss, then no one would ever release a beta.
• Sadly, some vendors release production versions of software which does destroy entire partitions. I'm still mad about Windows destroying my Linux partition. There's a known bug here. In fact, my situation was different than described, and Windows still destroyed my Linux partition!

Please read before you install..

[kupekhaize]

For the rest of the people that did not bother reading the fine print, it is also recommended that you make a firmware restoration cd before you install the firmware update that makes boot camp work. Otherwise, you could leave your computer in an unbootable state.

At least with these guys they have the option of doing an erase and install to restore their software to the way it was before. Some people are not able to boot their computers any more without using the firmware restore CD.

Please, please, please, before trying this type of stuff, RTFM...

Google's Fault

[chunews]

Really, this is Google's fault for releasing a series of very well understood, usable, secure, nearly flawless applications all under the "Beta" name!

Partitioning

[Universal Indicator]

I just got my Intel iMac yesterday, and I installed Boot Camp and Windows on it. I am willing to be that what happened was these users didn't know what they were doing. When you use Boot Camp to install XP, Windows exposes the entire partition table when you are installing, which includes a couple of small system partitions. Chances are these users didn't understand that those partitions were necessary and they deleted them while they were installing Windows. It's not Windows' fault, it's ID10T error.

Beta with no backups?

[grasshoppa]

Someone should go to their door and kick them squarely in the nuts for being idiots.

It's BETA folks, means it might break things. Back up your data if you absolutely must play with it.

Hell, back up your data anyway.

Beta is not always a clear term...

[MadAnalyst]

It's no wonder people are confused. Beta doesn't seem to mean "testing" any longer, it just means great product with a greek letter attached. Or at least that is what I have learned by surfing around at Google.

Re:B.E.T.A.

[option8]

hm. i thought it was

Backup
Everything
Then
Apply.

that's always worked for me :)

Re:priceless quotes

[Paul Rose]

It's like Apple produces a talking dog and this guy complains about its grammar.

Firmware Update, check

Dynamic Repartitioning, check

Dual Boot Windows, check

  BETA, check

and he expects it to be impossible to shoot himself in the foot somewhere along the way. Good grief.

Probably selected wong partition in the Windows (ignoring the "big bold print" in the Apple doc), which Apple simply can't prevent without modifying the Windows installer.