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A Stark Warning On Climate Change
cliffski writes "In a report based on computer predictions, UK government advisor Professor David King said that an increase of even three degrees Celsius would cause drought and famine and threaten millions of lives
The US refuses to cut emissions and those of India and China are rising. A government report based on computer modeling projects a 3C rise would cause a drop worldwide of between 20 and 400 million tonnes in cereal crops, about 400 million more people at risk of hunger and between 1.2bn and 3bn more people at risk of water stress."
If you haven't already, take a look at Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs, and Steel", and "Collapse".
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To be fair to China, they've had much smaller growth in their pollution compared to other countries who underwent similar industrialization. Not saying they're perfect, but that should be mentioned.
Do you really think China and India need the help of the Kyoto Protocol? Production is *already* shifting to those countries. And yes their emissions are uncapped, but their emissions are a fraction of the U.S.'s emissions. When they become part of the problem then we can talk, but right now Europe and the U.S. are the problem.
As I posted earlier this week, Lindzen is part of a professional network of Greenhouse deniers. By all means, read his work. And google for rebuttals, cross-reference his citations. And look at the climate you get to see yourself. Then decide whether everything's OK.
Here's a factoid to get you started:
"In November 2004, climate change skeptic Richard Lindzen was quoted saying he'd be willing to bet that the earth's climate will be cooler in 20 years than it is today. When British climate researcher James Annan contacted him, however, Lindzen would only agree to take the bet if Annan offered a 50-to-1 payout."
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I think you need to check your facts "Decaff". That data that goes back for millenia is incomplete, and often "guessed". You see, ancient man didn't have modern instruments for tracking weather, even temperature so we don't really know with 100% accuracy what the weather was like in 1006. In fact, we can't be completely sure of what it was like in 1806 because THE RECORDS ARE INCOMPLETE. It's all guesswork. And contrary to what NPR would have you believe, not all scientists are in agreement on "global warming".
Lindzen is part of a professional network of Greenhouse deniers.
Lindzen is a professor at MIT.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
That report states, "Canada's 2001 per capita carbon emissions of 5.0 metric tons (mt) were below the U.S. level of 5.5 mt/person".
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I'll be honest, I kind of want this to be true. But I make a sincere effort to not believe things just because I want to
-Peter
you are saying canada is completely ignoring it? absolute lies. its trying to meet it, its just difficult. the "risen 30%" is NOT since its been signed, its risen 30% SINCE 1990! aka, before this was even signed.
PBS | Nova is going to air an episode on a new finding. That of the "dimming sun". Pollution on earth is blocking sun light to an effect in reducing the overall temparature. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sun/dimming.html Watch out :)) "Global Cooling" media-industry will soon mushroom !!
Listen to this:
http://kuow.org/m3u/weekday-b20060323.m3u
from here:
http://kuow.org/weekday.asp?Archive=03-23#10
The important parts are from minute 39 to minute 52.
I thought this was a good interview and wanted to pass it along.
The interview answers the basic question of how climate change is predicted to happen (happening). In other words, the science of climate change and not the politics.
-J Tom Moon
Glaciers are melting faster then predicted in the 70's, and the oceans are warming faster then predicted in the 70's. Substantially faster.
I am talking about peer reviewed published papers, not the scare published in the dying years of OMNI.
Yes, both oceans are osilating wilder then predicted, but the average hasn't changed much. Why? well, becasue it is an average. If one goes up 3 degrees and the other down 3 degress that a huge change. Guess what the everage is? exactly the same.
CO2 levels are STRONGLY related to climate oscilations.
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