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A Stark Warning On Climate Change
cliffski writes "In a report based on computer predictions, UK government advisor Professor David King said that an increase of even three degrees Celsius would cause drought and famine and threaten millions of lives
The US refuses to cut emissions and those of India and China are rising. A government report based on computer modeling projects a 3C rise would cause a drop worldwide of between 20 and 400 million tonnes in cereal crops, about 400 million more people at risk of hunger and between 1.2bn and 3bn more people at risk of water stress."
Cry me a river.
It seems the detrimental effects on your spelling elude you.
Killing all the female babies has that effect.
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
Wow, where to start with this one.
Every so often we see a story like this seemingly designed to cast global fear and instill guilt in anyone willing to read it.
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2. We also often see stories on how the population of richer nations eats too many carbs. If it is true that the cereal crops will decline then it could also be true that the increased temperature would result in longer growing seasons and could be more favorable to the growing of fruits and vegetables. Good for everyone.
3. The U.S. refuses to cut emissions? How about our buddies in Brazil, India, and China who also refused to destroy their economies by signing the Kyoto treaty? Why attempt to heap all the guilt on us?
4. Four hundred million people at risk of hunger? How much of a risk? Are these people living in places such as those African nations where slaughter of their own population is commonplace and also unchecked by the so-called caring World Of Nations?
This newest attempt to fear the U.S. into destroying it's economy will fail. Sell crazy someplace else. We're all stocked up.
Cogito Ergo Sum
Water Vapor is the leading cause of global warming, something we as humans have essentially no control over. 95% of the greenhouse gases produced, are water vapor. I'm sick of all these people saying that WE'RE causing global warming, when it is simply just a natural phenomenon like the Northern Lights.
( which i doubt, both sides have good arguments and 'facts' to back them up )
But if its true, this could be a good thing. We have far too many people as it is to support properly.
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State of Fear by Michael Crichton gives a nice (somewhat biased) Cliffs-Notes take on the issue as well.
the US refuses to cut levels (translation: "refuses to devolve our economy") precisely because the absurd Kyoto Protocol would put no such restrictions on developing nations such as China and India. They could grow
And only the U.S. was annointed by GOD to grow!
It's ABSURD to give other countries a fair opportunity to grow out of their third world status!
You can't take the sky from me...
State of Fear is science fiction.
Yes. So is Guns, Germs and Steel.
and maybe you could stop pointing the finger at others, and actually help to reduce your own emissions anyway. It's important for the whole world to reduce emissions to get anywhere. And while I haven't looked into Kyoto, I've never thought I dont want america being such a great industrial country. In fact I dont really know what's so great about America anyway? McDonalds? All the decent cars are made in the EU/Japan, american beasts are heavy and have innefficient engines (which need to have massive capacities to shift the weight of the cars at a half-decent speed). It's also possible to reduce emissions without cutting down your economy. Maybe America should spend less on defence and space programs, etc.. in fact, maybe if you stopped thinking you were so great, and deserved to be producing 25% of the worlds' pollution (when your population is nothing like that), control 32% of the wealth (from what you say), then you wouldnt have to spend so much covering your ass?
which is totally what she said
As I linked in my comments, Lindzen uses his credentials to make Greenhouse denials in public. For example:
"In an article in the Wall Street Journal (June 11 2001) he claims that "there is no consensus, unanimous or otherwise, about long-term climate trends or what casues them" and "we are not in a position to confidently attribute past climate change to carbon dioxide or to forecast what the climate will be in the future". Lindzen works closely with other deniers, such as Fred Singer and the George C Marshall Institute."
Most people who get into MIT are smart enough to challenge their professors. Some people just see the "MIT" brand and take their pronouncements on faith. This is the logical fallacy known as the "appeal to authority".
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How about increasing CAFE standards? How about providing tax disincentives for driving gas guzzling Hummers?
You are right, not signing kyoto is not equivalent to not reducing emissions but you are dreaming if you think our emissions are going to shrink without the government giving industry a shove in that direction.
Hmmm, do you think GWB's plan for "clean coal" is going to reduce our carbon emissions? I guess you might argue that the Bush administration desire to built a lot of nuclear plants will reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Great, I am looking forward to having Chernobyl near my home...
Well, if you clicked the link I helpfully provided, you could see for yourself. You could google it, like I did. Or you could just start throwing obnoxious, wrong names at me and making jibberish comments, if you'd rather just remain willfully ignorant and wrong, to satisfy your need to argue.
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Why does it sound to me like you're trying to lump him in with holocaust deniers?
Must be some kind of projection on your part. Unless you think that global climate change is going to be a holocaust, in which case you'd be arguing against yourself.
Twenty years ago you could buy a solid, fully powered, nice sounding car. Then the enviro folks came in and said "nope! Cars must BY LAW be these underpowered, sewing machine sounding, lightweight objects that are death traps in a colliison."
"Yeah, no thanks. Don't want that lame car. Hey, what's that big thing over there? The one with the nice throaty roar to its engine and some heft to it so if I do get hit by something I'll survive?"
"It's some new thing, called an SUV. Not subject to the car regulations."
"Sign me up for the SUV."
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