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Oracle Looks At Buying Novell

Several readers wrote to note Larry Ellison's comments about launching an Oracle Linux Distro (great! yet another!) and that Oracle has/is also looking at purchasing Novell. The great shake-out continues.

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  1. yay by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oracle Novell SuSE Desktop Linux!

    1. Re:yay by iggymanz · · Score: 5, Funny

      hey, that's GNU/Oracle-Novell-SuSE Desktop Linux!! GnoranoveSuSE?

    2. Re:yay by utlemming · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Better yet, just imagine how this would have some serious impact on our friends at SCO? They thought they were taking on IBM, and Novell got into the mix, but with an acquistian by Oracle you would have SCO up against IBM and Oracle -- two heavy weights. To really make it painful, Larry Ellision is not known for being a nice business man.

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  2. oracle tuned by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Informative

    RedHat and SuSE are the usual "enterprise" distros that have tweaks for running Oracle, but Redhat dominates. wonder how threatened RedHat would be if Oracle bought and pushed SuSE. Oracle has had a problem in the past four years of trying to make integrated features that really were best left to third party, like for example oracle filesystem and oracle clustering, which are shakier and more trouble to admin than 3rd party.

    1. Re:oracle tuned by hackstraw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      RedHat and SuSE are the usual "enterprise" distros that have tweaks for running Oracle, but Redhat dominates. wonder how threatened RedHat would be if Oracle bought and pushed SuSE. Oracle has had a problem in the past four years of trying to make integrated features that really were best left to third party, like for example oracle filesystem and oracle clustering, which are shakier and more trouble to admin than 3rd party.

      RedHat threatened? How about Sun Microsystems?

      Back in the day, Sun's Solaris was the target for Oracle. Every other platform was a port of it, and reportedly not as good. I've only used Oracle on Solaris for big and important DBs.

      I've thought for years that Oracle should be an OS because an Oracle box is not going to be doing much else anyway. Oracle has its own filesystem, redundancy, clustering, you name it. Many of Oracle's "big boy" features are blurred between what an application does and what an OS does. Its common that the first thing you do when you install oracle is modify the OS to allow for Oracle to work. Most importantly, its the shared memory parameters of the OS that needs to be modified (or at least used to as of version 10).

      Having an Oracle OS seems inevitable. With Linux its more than possible.

  3. Is it just me? by pubjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of the IT companies don't get Linux and OSS.

    Hint to Larry (and IBM, HP, Novell, etc): Work together on a single distribution of Linux if you want to get rid of Microsoft. Commoditize the OS and make your money providing services and software on top of it.

  4. In other news by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mysql and postgresql are mysteriously missing from SuSE after the acquisition

  5. Apples & Oranges by MudButt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Work together on a single distribution of Linux if you want to get rid of Microsoft

    I don't think their goal is to get rid of Microsoft, per say. When you buy an automobile, you have the choices ranging from sedans to minivans to heavy duty trucks. Does the Ford F350 really "compete" with a Honda Civic? Does a person purchase a vehicle and decide between the two of those? Not for the most part. For the most part, I've seen IT professionals pick the right tool for the job. When I need to deploy a Microsoft solution, it's usually because it's the best fit for the job. When I need to deploy and Linux solution, it's usually because it's the best fit for the job.

    IMHO, there are very few instances where and educated IT professional could actually have to compare a MS or OSS solution in the same way a car buyer would compare a Ford F350 and Honda Civic.

  6. XANDROS would be a much better buy by LINM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Xandros would be a much more appropriate acquisition:

    1) Best in class business desktop
          -Best desktop: LinuxWorld best business product
          -Focused on the business user (vs the Novell Gnome focused desktop that is more all-purpose / home user market)
          -Designed to provide an easy transition for Windows users (vs all of the other distros - more below)

    2) Best in class Linux "business" server
          -The new Xandros server offers the print serving, file serving, network management needed to run small businesses. I
          -Provides unique capabilities (apart from Microsoft) that would instantly differentiate Oracle from all the other "me-too" Linux players
          -Designed to provide an easy transition for Windows users (vs all of the other distros - more below)

    3) Better strategic fit
          -Xandros is a pure play in the Linux area and would not come with the "hair" and unwanted, sub-leading products that Oracle would pick up from Novell (and have to pay for)
          -Xandros comes on top of the Debian server architecture. This would be an immediate and powerful win for Oracle to pick up the Debian Server base.
          -Top business focused engineering team with long track record of efficient engineering (that delivered the award winning Corel Linux Desktop)
          -Xandros was founded as an Simple Compatible replacement for Windows and Microsoft solutions that would provide an easy transition for Microsft users. Compared to the other Linux distros that have been laboring hard to create a new better product albeit alien to the marketplace. This company has not deviated from this strategy (plans for this server were announced years ago).

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  7. Why stop there? by jayhawk88 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hell, let's get Sun into this deal somehow too! Then we could have the trifecta of old school struggling tech companies bound by a hatred of Microsoft.

  8. Rumors preempted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rumors of a Novell buyout by Oracle were pre-empted today when Redhat officially announced their aquisition of Novell.

    It seems, though that all may not be lost for Oracle. Redhat has indicated that Novell will sell off their Suse division before the Redhat-Novell merger is completed.

    "We have been trying to work this deal for a long time," said the head janitor at Redhat's Sao Paulo, Brazil offices. "Why do you think we ejected 'Fedora Directory Services'? We're ready to push eDirectory to its full potential!"

    Officials at Oracle did not comment. But a chair was heard smashing against a wall in Redmond, WA.

  9. Re:Novell's new tagline by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Naw, not rotten. Novell is a good company. Stable, boring.

    It's more of a pinecone. Nobody is sure what to do with it.

  10. Re:This is a great idea... by fimbulvetr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    so we wouldn't need to have a full time guy to test software upgrades with our current Oracle installations, or to troubleshoot errors

    LOL. You've never worked with Oracle software have you? They have a very hard time releasing patches, much less testing them. I've spent dozens of hours on the phone with RH, IBM, Oracle, etc, and Oracle are the _last_ people you ever want to due to their gross incompetence and intentional disregard for anything you might know or claim to know.

  11. Re:Another Distro? by saleenS281 · · Score: 4, Informative

    driver crap isn't true? That's funny, my linksys/cisco card won't load on linux without using windows drivers, and it's till a crapshoot at best going about it that way.

    If I had a PowerBook G4, I'd load OSX onto it. If I had a Sun 10000E I'd load Solaris onto it, and you can bet your ass everyone else who bought one will too. Last I checked, when you drop 6 figures on a server you want support.

    That being said, your point is moot. Knowing I can run linux on a powerbook doesn't chang ethe fact my wireless doesn't work for shit. YOU are all that is wrong with linux right now. Instead of saying "hey, you're right, that's a problem we really need to fix" it's "well f you, that doesn't matter it's not important because of this and this and this". Stop patting yourself on the back, and stop trying to brush a serious problem under the rug. I can only be happy people like yourself aren't running the show or linux would've never made it out of Linus's dorm room.

  12. LFS should be enough for anyone by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only pansys need a distro.. be a man and do it yourself..

    Ok, so im only kidding. somewhat.

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  13. Re:Not another distribution. by everphilski · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IF everyone ran Windows the world would be so much better. Imagine one central repository where everything could be collected, supported, and distributed.

    Now think about what you just said if someone from another vantage point said it. Just because its your favorite distro doesn't mean its right for everyone. Multiple vantage points is what keeps linux and the rest of the computing world competitive.