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When an Algorithm Takes the Wheel

Wired has an interesting look at Jaguar's new automated driving dynamics system in their new XK convertible. From the article: "During an extreme test of the XK's handling capabilities, the car only fishtailed back and forth once after I jerked the steering wheel on a wet road around a 90 degree turn while driving at about 60 mph. The car's back wheels swung first left then right before the XK's sensors registered a difference in torque between the rear tires and, transparent to me, righted the fishtailing effect by a combination of de-acceleration, tire rotation and vehicle weight distribution control. More often than not, the sensation of flatness, as if there were a vertical force pinning the car to the road, was also felt then and when taking less extreme curves at high speeds."

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  1. When cars are smarter then their owners by AviLazar · · Score: 2, Funny

    KITT: "Michael, I don't think I can do that"

    Michael: "That's alright little buddy, I know you can" [Pushes button to do STUPID ass maneouver]

    Also, "Little buddy" does Michael not realize that he is a human, 6'4, probably about 180lbs (David Hasselhoff is kinda lankey) talking to a car that you know - weighs a lot - especially with all the toys it has built into it.

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    1. Re:When cars are smarter then their owners by truthsearch · · Score: 3, Funny

      a car that you know - weighs a lot - especially with all the toys it has built into it.

      Plus the guy in the trunk talking through the mic.

  2. gravity by shams42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "More often than not, the sensation of flatness, as if there were a vertical force pinning the car to the road, was also felt then and when taking less extreme curves at high speeds."

    Yeah, if only there was such a force...

  3. Re:600 RPM by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 3, Funny

    I dunno. My old Honda definitely had a noticable cadence when it fell below idle. Although I don't see why anyone would tout that as a centerpiece feature...

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  4. Your wheels are turning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I rotate my tires periodically as well, but not usually when negotiating a 90 degree turn at 60 mph.

  5. Washington State Drivers by WED+Fan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I might love this idea being fully explored. Add some more IA, a social conscience. The I-5 and I-405 will get much nicer.

    Car: DAVE, I AM SENSING YOU ARE ON YOUR CELL PHONE AND DRIVING LIKE AN A**HOLE. I AM OVERRIDING AND MOVING YOU TO THE PREDESIGNATED IDIOT LANE.

    Or,

    Car: DAVE, THE RADIO STATION YOU ARE LISTENING TO HAS LITTLE REDEEMING VALUE AND IS OVERTLY REPUBLICAN, I AM TUNING THE RADIO TO NPR!

    Or,

    Car: DAVE, FLIPPING THE FINGER AT THAT NICE LADY IN THE BMW WAS NOT NICE. I AM ACTIVATING ON-STAR AND CALLING YOUR MOTHER.

    To be honest, I still want control of my car. I'll drive, thank you. (Still don't trust ABS since I hit that deer.)

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    1. Re:Washington State Drivers by myth24601 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Except that an experienced driver skilled at threshold braking could still threshold break. He just has to get almost to the point of ABS kick in instead of almost to the point of tire lock-up - which are pretty much the same thing."

      A driver that is that good should be aware of what type of equipment he is driving and mash the brake petal to the floor.

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  6. Translation by Sneftel · · Score: 3, Funny

    a combination of de-acceleration, tire rotation and vehicle weight distribution control.

    Translation: The car tossed him out the window.

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  7. Re:Safety, safety everywhere, nor any drop to drin by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, the safest thing you can drive is probably an M-1 abrams tank, for $5,000,000, but I doubt many people would actually buy one of those even if they were available to the public :)

    They are, they're called SUVs: same weight, same mileage, same damage to other cars in an accident, it just doesn't have the big gun and the tracks.

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  8. Re:Intrusive. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Reminds me of a guy I knew who had a gravel driveway. Really thick layer of gravel. In his old car, he'd mastered the technique of pulling into the driveway at a fairly good speed, slamming on the brakes so the wheels locked, and plowing through the gravel to a perfect stop. Always ended up just a few feet from the garage door.

    Then he bought a newer car. With anti-lock brakes. Came home straight from the dealer, went to do his little trick into the driveway, and drove right through the garage door. Of course the ABS didn't let the wheels lock, so the car went much farther than expected as it tried (and succeeded) to nullify his maneuver with a controlled stop. Too bad the car didn't know about the garage door. Heh.

  9. Re:Intrusive. by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ah, yes, the United States, where every other driver on the road is an idiot except you.

  10. Re:Fishtailing saved me once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow! You're my hero! If only the entire driving public could consist solely of Slashdot readers like you. From what I've seen here, everyone one of us is an expert at combat driving techniques and controls a car in emergency situations better than these automated systems 100% of the time.

    It's amazing to me that those automotive engineers that developed these systems and the racing teams that require them in all their cars didn't think to implement a far easier solution - just teach Redhat distro installation classes to new drivers instead of Driver's Ed and sign anti-RIAA loyalty oaths.

  11. Re:Intrusive. by jericho4.0 · · Score: 2, Funny
    "What if someone could hack that to tell your car the maximum speed limit was 0 mph. Easy way to carjack someone."

    My God! Hackers would no longer have to momentarily disable the ignition with a localized EMF pulse while scanning the IR keylock and forcing out the owner with body odour.

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  12. Re:Intrusive. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've often though that they should abolish motorcycle helmet laws (for adults) but require that you sign an organ donor card if you're not going to wear a helmet. Everybody wins!

  13. Re:Intrusive. by wsloand · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, there are two classes of drivers other than me:

    Everyone who drives faster than I do is an asshole. Everyone who drives slower than me is an idiot.

    That means that only about 95% of drivers are idiots.