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Dell's Marketshare Decline Due to Intel?

timeOday writes "News.com reports that Dell's PC sales are growing more slowly than the overall PC market for the first time on record. Gartner's Charles Smulders blames Dell's decline on their allegiance to Intel, and cites Hewlett Packard's embrace of AMD as a key to their growing sales. Can Dell continue to shun AMD, or is a breakthrough imminent for the #2 chipmaker?"

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  1. Perhaps by Luscious868 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could it be because Dell sucks and people are sick and tired of calling tech support only to speak with someone they can barely understand from India who claims his name is "Bill".

    1. Re:Perhaps by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well there is an old saying. You get what you pay for. If you want good tech support that isn't offshore then you better be willing to pay more than $400 for a full PC.
      Good people cost money.
      Heck even bad people cost money.

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    2. Re:Perhaps by grungebox · · Score: 4, Funny

      So that's where Sameer ended up after Initech burned down.

  2. Marketing Failure by Penguinoflight · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem here is Intel doesn't have a processor that the public views as solid and powerful. They have a processor that fits that description (dual core mobile), but they try to push P4s at people instead.

    Dell is only failing because they expect Intel to do all their work for them. If they want people to get back on board they'll have to convince them that their systems perform well.

    Their models are so unlinked to the processors that they carry that this will be a disaster for dell to handle simply because they have a stupid branding scheme. Moving to AMD wont help dell, but solidifying their position will.

    This whole summary is based on a false premise. I for one think it's absolutely absurd to suggest that following Hewlett Packard's business plan is a good idea. If you do that everyone will just think you're the other HP.

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  3. Has their reputation has caught up with them? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Dell has long been the leader because they have been able to ship easily configurable PCs quickly and dependably to their customers. Now anyone can do that. They used to offer premium discounts on their PCs. Now anyone can do that.

    Dell has always used very marginal hardware in several levels of their lineup. Perhaps this is what has caught up with them. Another company who used to sell well until their reputation caught up with them was Packard Bell. If you keep shipping inferior product, at some point you will get called on it.

    Now, does it hurt that they need to keep prices high in order to offer genuine Intel Inside PCs? You bet. But that's just a straw on the camel's back. It was the heavy load that broke the camel in the first place.

  4. Re:Waitaminnit by walt-sjc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OR, is it the fact that Dell has alienated their customer base with shoddy products and outsourced call centers (sales, service and support) staffed by people that don't have the tools or skill to do the job?

  5. Apple to be the New Dell? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It almost seems like an unnatural progression but it is possible.
    Back in the 8088s - 286 days IBM was King of the PCs By the 386-486 Gateway Became king then Pentium Dell took over. It wasn't because of price At the time each respective vender was priced a bit more the the rest. Then after they became king of the mountain the only way they could still compete (More) is by price shaving which lowered its quality so The next guy came in selling a higher quality product at a slightly higher price and the customers were happy with it and by word of mouth they became #1.
    I remember people going I am going to get a Gateway because I heard they are reliable for their 486. Then by 1999 I hear people go Next Time I am going to get a Dell because this Gateway is a piece of crap (after having to swap 3 drives and a motherboard) In a year. Now Dells quality is getting more and more shaky and their support is getting more cheap. So who will be the next Dell? Right now the best I am hearing that Apple Computers while may cost a bit more are of better quality and with the Intel Chips you can put windows on it as a fail safe emotional device. But It could also be HP/Compaq turn if they get on the Gun and made better PCs. I originally had AlienWare as the next Dell but Dell just bought them so who knows. But I don't think AMD has anything to do with it, it is about Quality not manufactures.

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  6. Re:Waitaminnit by jaseuk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most of Dells business is corporate. We are not a particularly large organisation but we spend close to $400K a year with Dell. Our main concerns are that the kit is reliable, cheap, hardware platform is relatively stable and support is good. Dell gives us all these things, the chip and technologies used are way down the list of our concerns.

    The likely reason for slowed growth is that PCs are lasting longer. We have 5 year old PCs that are still very usable, step back a few years and the upgrade cycles were faster as the tech moved along. Things have been static for a while now, anything over 800Mhz is good enough for most modern applications and a fair amount of games.

    Perhaps the real reason for the slow down is the Vista delay. There is no external push from Microsoft to force people through a refresh to get the latest toys.

    Jason.

  7. Re:Waitaminnit by hentaidan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dell has alienated their customer base

    Well, now that they've bought Alienware, it's not surprising.

  8. Re:Waitaminnit by emir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are missing the point.

    "The likely reason for slowed growth is that PCs are lasting longer.".

    This is valid point but it affects overall PC market not only one brand. The article states following:

    .... growing more slowly than the overall PC market...

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