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Previewing Dapper And Edgy

Frank Clarkson writes to mention a ZDNet article about the upcoming release of 'Dapper Drake', Ubuntu Linux. They also give a mini-preview of Eft. From the article: "'I'm promising to impose (almost ;-) ) zero from-the-top requirements for Edgy, this release is entirely up the to development team to envision and implement,' he wrote. 'Almost everything that lands in Edgy will be driven from the development team, who get to play with whatever new technologies they fancy along the way. So that should give us a nice big bump in infrastructure and bling.'"

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  1. New most popular distro by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...for Edgy, this release is entirely up the to development team to envision and implement...

    So then can we assume this will be the long desired porn-centric distro we have all been waiting for?

  2. multiarch future? by scragz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From TFA, on possible Eft features:
    ". . .a first flirt with multiarch (multiple architecture) support for true mixed 32-bit and 64-bit computing on AMD64. . ."

    I sure hope this happens; then I can finally switch back to 64-bit mode. I know about the chroot and all that fanciness but it's too much of a hassle.

  3. dapper and edgy by rayde · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i'm certainly looking forward to Dapper Drake in June, but I bet I'm not alone in being more excited for Edgy. I think a lot of us are looking forward to a stable implementation of XGL to "just work," because we understand this simple and unnecessary eye-candy could be just what we needed to convince some regular people to give Linux a try.

    1. Re:dapper and edgy by zaguar · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I have to disagree - XGL is not "simple and unnecessary eye-candy". There are some _very_ useful things in there. The expose clone, for one. This is a _great_ feature of of OS X, and now it is "simple and unnecessary"? And the virtual desktops being exposed to the viewer. The cube metaphor works great, exposing functionality to the users. Friends, for the first time, are grouping apps - Work on Desktop 1, Web browsing on desktop 2 etc. Transparency can help or hinder (Vista), so I'm still on the fence on this one.

      Sure, some things are just eye-candy, for example the way movies can play on the corners of the cube. But by and large, XGL is _useful_ and _not_ eyecandy.

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  4. A Great Year for the Linux Desktop by SlashdotOgre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's great to see more distros playing around with Xgl and AIGLX; the more exposure they get, the faster they mature. I've been playing around with Xgl (Compiz) in Gentoo for the last month or so and am quite impressed. A number of features are just for show, but some are quite useful. I like the implementation of a function similar to exposé on the Mac, and true transparent windows can actually be useful. Stability wise, Xgl can definitely use some work, but overall it runs quite well (I typically use it with Gnome 2.14). I would suggest running any essential processes that need to be kept running in screen, but typically I only see crashes if I try to show off too much (eg. run multiple transparent movies on top of each other while spinning the desktop).

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  5. Re:Open Sources by cp.tar · · Score: 4, Funny
    uber 733t

    What's that? 1337 for "teet"?
    Is that how you pronounce "tit"? Or is it just a Freudian slip?

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  6. Comment Deja Vu by Erik+Noren · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I thought this looked familiar. A quick search reveals this EXACT same posting from a different UID on the /. article: "Dapper Drake Hits Ubuntu Servers".

    VIA C3 Bug
    (Score:2, Informative)
    by Ed Almos (584864) on Saturday November 12, @12:01PM (#14015448)

    I sure hope that they've fixed the VIA C3 bug that was present on the last distribution, 'Breezy Badger'. I tried installing it on an 800MHz C3 system and it was unstable to the point of being unusable. I can't remember the exact details, something about the C3 missing one of the Pentium instructions.
    Ed Almos


    In which case, I'd like to use the +5 response as my own:
    Re:VIA C3 Bug
    (Score:5, Insightful)
    by orkysoft (93727) on Saturday November 12, @12:03PM (#14015461)

    Sounds to me like it's VIA's C3 bug, not Ubuntu's bug. Maybe you should get a distro compiled for i586 or even i386 instead of for i686, as a workaround?


    Thanks!
  7. Can you imagine... by Inoshiro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a world where high quality software, in a simple package with smiling people on the cover and no marketting speak, could be delivered in bulk, for free, to your home -- with both a live disc to try at no danger, and a full disc for when you want to run it.

    And this software would work well, have free online updates and upgrades, and make it so that you could even show your friends who aren't technically inclined how to use it and gain its benefits? How it enables people like me who work on software to easily contribute to improving the lives of thousands of computer users around the world?

    Yea, it's a damn shame that developers are doing marketters' jobs here. Let's all live in a world where the marketters do the developers' jobs by setting out the game-plan on features and design.

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  8. Have you ever heard of "thank you"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right. That's exactly what the FOSS community needs. A marketing director. Because, gee, these developer fuckwits have had decades to get their shit together, and all they can come up with is better more stable software than anything out there. But nobody cares because the names are so weird. Like, what's this "less is more" thing? I don't get it. What really matters is image. Branding. Market penetration. Shareholder value.

    Listen, johnny-come-lately, the market is already saturated with market driven drivel. Go eat it up. The world doesn't need any more of it. There's plenty already. FOSS is different, and that's a good thing. If you don't like it, go away. Believe it or not, some people really don't care about world domination, huge piles of cash, popularity contests, or cute ponies.

    I'm using Dapper Drake right now on a machine that is also running the very latest Windows, w/ .NET, monad, etc. I like the contrast. I like the competition. Pluralism is good. Monotheism is bad. Stop trying to impose a single paradigm on operating systems. If your grandma can't use linux, then either (a) do something about it, or (b) buy her a Mac. Stop whining that the largely volunteer FOSS community should start doing things your way. And then you folks have the nerve to complain that it's the developers who have big egos. Listen to yourself.

    Why don't you try saying "thank you" sometime.