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'Lego' Approach Thwarts Anthrax Toxin
NewScientist is reporting that scientists have discovered complex nanoscale structures that have successfully protected rats from anthrax. From the article: "The technique relies on using tiny 'peptide' molecules, stuck onto one large molecule, which bind to toxins and prevent them from causing damage. They do this in much the same way that two Lego bricks might fit together - with several studs from the binding molecule slotting into, and so blocking, the sites on a toxin molecule which are needed to cause damage."
That's the way EVERYTHING in biochemistry works!
Doesn't Lego have a patent on the whole block stacking concept? Looks like they're in for a legal battle on this one. :)
.....so they synthesized an inhibitor? kay.
I'm no biochemist, but from my rudimentary understanding of medicinal functions in the human body....isn't this how most medicines function? By 'binding' onto rogue molecules, or enabling the white blood corpuscles to do the same?
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The only drawback, as with Lego, is that once you attach a block to the "base", it occupies those "connections". This isn't quite like Lego in that you probably can't just use the connectors on top of the new nanoscale structures to get at whatever the cell was doing anyhow... or maybe you can, and science is completely way more badass than I thought!
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All I know is, know one has truly known pain until they have been barefoot and stepped on one of these molecules.
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Turns out the anthrax bacilli are too busy playing to synthesize the toxins. Now they just have to figure out how to get tiny little nanoscale castles and dinosaurs and shit out of the body.
'Lego' Approach Thwarts Anthrax Toxin
Now if they can only thwart the germs all over the Legos themselves, this would be an advance in disease resistance.
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NewScientist is reporting that scientists have discovered complex nanoscale structures that have successfully protected rats from anthrax.
So, with this protecting them, we can't use anthrax on these rats now? Pity.
We all know that anything that helps protect a politician is funded fully, quickly...
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The 'New Legos' style give you special made blocks and directions to build it exactly like it is on outside of the box.
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Just what we need, disease resistant rats.
stuck onto one large molecule, which bind to toxins and prevent them from causing damage.
That's called an antibody.
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You just used the word LEGO to make me read this! LEGOs have about as much to do with this molecule binding as a bowl of petunias does!
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TFA is light on detail, what a surprise, but I am guessing the novelty here is that you can in some cases get the advantage of multiple-binding cooperativity without having to custom-design the molecular backbone "scaffold" that holds the binding sites in the correct relationship. By just changing the density of peptides on the surface of the liposome, they can more or less continuously "tune" the distance between the binding sites. So, in principle, the advantage to this kind of approach would be that you could rapidly and cheaply create many different antagonists for many different poisons. It's hugely cheaper to just vary the density of peptide binding sites on your liposome than it is to synthesize a whole range of molecular backbones to hold the peptide groups in different arrangements.
Also...a biochemist may want to correct me, but TFA says that these buggers bind toxins "thousands" of time better than free peptides. But to be seriously effective, wouldn't you need hundreds of thousands or even millions of times better binding? After all, you don't want to have to feed your patient as much of the antagonist as they gave these poor rats: 500 mg for a 300 g rat is a dosage of 1.7 grams/kilo of body weight! A normal man (65 kg) would have to have over 100 grams of the stuff injected into him. That's an absurd amount of medicine and is bound to have deleterious side effects.
They do this in much the same way that two Lego bricks might fit together - with several studs from the binding molecule slotting into, and so blocking, the sites on a toxin molecule which are needed to cause damage.
So the idea is that you inject something into the body that has prongs shaped like the sockets on the toxins you're trying to capture. The innoculant binds to the sites and afterwards the toxin cannot bind into the places in the body where they do their damage.
So my question is, how do we figure out if any other molecule in the body isn't the same shape? What if some important body protein or whatever has part of the same sequence in it, and the innoculation binds that up in lieu of Anthrax?
I'm sure that there is a methodology for discovering this, but I'm not in the field and have no idea what that would be. Anyone out there in Slashland know?
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rediculous.
Great! Just put about a thousand 4-year-olds in a room with a whole bunch of Lego blocks, and a huge molecular model. You don't even have to tell them what to do. Just continuously monitor the state of the room with video cameras, and once they have designed an appropriate antibody, encase the whole thing in carbonite.
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with several studs from the binding molecule slotting into
I'm sorry, but anything about several studs slotting into something should be labeled unsuitable for work!
Two different studies, coming to conclusion this week.
Now, along with the anthrax killer protien, we are making progress, indeed.
Whats more, this protien looks to be anti-resistant too.
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Yeah, you inject it into rats and if they don't get sick and die your okay.
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They put Peptide in quotes like they didn't trust it.
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Where were these 'peptide' molecules when I had to get all of those shots in the Army?
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It's more of a prove of the authors incompetence.
Peptides are certain linked molecules. "Peptide" is an scientific expression for "linked aminoacids", nothing more, nothing less.
Putting it in quotes is as if you put "computer" or "internet" in qoutes. You make obvious your neither part of "the scene" nor have a clue what you're writing about.
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Well I believe that in general if there were something else in your body that had the same shape as the relevent site on the toxin or whatever, it would effectively be a toxin as well.
Doesn't seem like anyone understood the point of the article. The breakthrough isn't the peptide binding, it's the statistical method used to maximize affinity between the liposome molecule and the anthrax toxin.
This would be a big discovery if, as the researchers suggest, the procedure can be applied to other bacteria or virii.
The scientists knew that certain protein shapes could bind to toxins produced by the anthrax bacteria. They've found that embedding the proteins in liposomes, which are vesicles comprised of a phospholipid bilayer just like ordinary cell membranes, significantly increased their effectiveness. They've figured out how high of density of proteins to embed in the liposome surfaces so that the distance between proteins matches up with bonding sites on the toxins, forming a stronger bond and a better chance of bonding to begin with.
In their control group, 8 out of 9 rats given the toxin (not the actual anthrax bacteria, though) died. In the test group, only 1 of 9 rats given the toxin plus 500 mg of the protein-embedded liposomes died. Since the protein only targets the toxin, the treatment would have to be used in conjunction with antibiotics to kill the bacteria. There is no mention in the article whether the toxins and liposomes are flushed out of the body or broken down, but the end result is that the toxins can't bind to whatever it is they normally do to cause trouble.
Liposome probably isn't a familiar term, so look up liposome or cell membrane (includes drawing of embedded proteins) if you want to get a better understanding. Wikipedia has a decent article on anthrax, but I googled and found a much better write up from the University of Wisconsin that might help you get a good "big picture" look at what goes on.
From my reading it looks like there are multiple toxins. One causes septic shock through a method that is apparently not yet fully understood. It bonds to a protein in the cell membrane (just like the proteins in the liposomes), and interferes with cellular signalling. Fascinatingly, two other toxins actually cause ATP depletion and swelling in phagocytes (a particular type of cell in the immune system) so that they aren't able to engulf the anthrax bacteria and break them down. It's like a biological counter-countermeasure. Not karma whoring...I just thought after I'd looked up all that information some other people would be interested, too. All this reminds me why I enjoyed biology so much back in high school.
Yes, it can happen. Look for a example at recent drug trial incident in London, where a therapeutic antibody that had good results in animals (and apparently mild side-effects in monkeys) had dramatic and potentially fatal side-effects in human volunteers.
The effects are rarely that dramatic, as the worst effects are usually discovered in animal trials. (For added safety, at least two species are used, one rodent and one non-rodent.) However, unwanted side effects are the rule rather than the exception, and the only really reliable way to find out so far is through tests on human volunteers. Most drugs do fail in these trials!
Actually, even the drugs that do pass the clinical test stage and are approved rarely work for all patients. The FDA is happy if the drug helps a sufficiently large fraction of patients, and does not real harm except in exceptional cases. It is the average cost-benefit that counts, not the result for the individual patient, which is at this moment often impossible to predict.
For there is genetic patient-to-patient variation among humans as well, not to mention genetic variation among pathogens, and a drug that fits the protein in the body of patient A may fail to do so in patient B. And a drug that does A and B no harm may have fatal effects in patient C.
Genetic targeting of drugs has already caused a controversy around NitroMed BiDil, a heart medicine that is specifically effective for black patients — admittting that few Americans are of pure genetic "African" or "Caucasian" stock. The culturally acceptable (but scientifically dubious) solution is to allow patients to "self-identify" as black and therefore potential users.
For the future much hope is put in "personalized medicine", giving the patient a genetic analysis first to determine whether a drug would be really effective — or would have serious side effects. However, this too has obvious cultural and moral problems attached to it.
It should come from the but-who-will-protect-us-from-nanotech dept.
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Doesnt putting rats in an air tight bag also protect them from anthrax? The biggest question is how do you GET the Legos in the Syringe?