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Lara Croft As The Final Girl

Clive Thompson, over at Wired, takes a look at the appeal of playing as Lara Croft ... and doesn't focus on her physical assets. From the article: "The Final Girl theory emerged in 1985, when Carol Clover -- a medievalist and feminist film critic -- was dared by a friend to see The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Back then, most feminist theorists loathed slasher films, and regarded them as classic examples of male misogyny. It wasn't hard to figure out why: Thousands of young men were trooping into theaters to cheer wildly as masked psychos hacked apart screaming young women. That really didn't look good. But as Clover sat in the theaters, she noticed something curious. Sure, the young men would laugh and cheer as the villain hunted down his female prey. But eventually the movie would whittle down the victims to one last terrified woman -- the Final Girl, as Clover called her. Suddenly, the young men in the audience would switch their allegiance -- and begin cheering just as madly for the Final Girl as she attacked and killed the psycho."

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  1. Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic" by Prometheus+Bob · · Score: 2, Funny

    "stopped reading?" you must be new here

  2. May the best X win! by MarkusQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The summary at least misses the point. The audience didn't "switch their allegiances"; in each conflict, they were cheering for the better (generally smarter) of the combatants. That's why those films seldom just have people being killed. Instead:

    1. We meet a character
    2. We get to see how stupid they are (or greedy, or two faced, or whatever)
    3. We get to see what happens to them for it

    Then, at the end, we get to see someone who didn't exhibit these character flaws win.

    It has little or nothing to do with sexism, and everything to do with cheering for people with survival traits.

    --MarkusQ

    1. Re:May the best X win! by shmlco · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "It has little or nothing to do with sexism, and everything to do with cheering for people with survival traits."

      Survival traits? Sorry, not even that. And I could, for example, make a pretty good case for greed BEING a survial trait for you and yours.

      No, such films are nothing more than grown up versions of the boogyman stories parents would tell their children, all about what happens to little kids who do bad things.

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    2. Re:May the best X win! by MarkusQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I could, for example, make a pretty good case for greed BEING a survival trait for you and yours.

      Greed (trying to acquire more resources than you could reasonably need) may have been a survival trait before we became so social. Now, it's anti-survival, but the urge is still there (which is probably the strongest argument for it once being pro-survival). In the kludgefest that is evolution, it hasn't been eliminated, but patched over with various greed-limiting mechanisms.

      The question is, are we applying the patches fast enough?

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    3. Re:May the best X win! by nomel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But cheering for the last remaining female is also a survival trait. :) I know when I'm with girls in "hostile" environments, I feel a very strong urge (instinct I'm presuming since it happens without choice or forethought) to protect them. Makes sense if we do that, on a more subconscious level of course, in video games where you're helping, guiding, and making decisions about a womans well being that's standing there in third person in front of you. If she wasn't in third person, then there would be nothing for our brain to tell us to protect and reward for protecting. Obviously, the game wouldn't sell as well if it wasn't in third person for other reasons too ;)

    4. Re:May the best X win! by TheCarp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think everyone is reading way too much into these crappy films. Lets try a simpler explanation. Ever heard of the Roman colleseium? How about people like to watch violence. They will cheer for the violence itself.

      I don't think the audience members really care who it is thats being hacked to bits... is it the bad boy or the naughty girl. Whatever, its somebody being hacked up. Its sensational, it stirs up all sorts of things, I think people often identify with the killer at first because well, the alternative is to identify with the person being hacked up, and its much safer to identify with the winner. You get to feel the perverse thrill of the kill, which is much better than the fear of being the prey.

      Of course, who the audience identifies with is going to also be a function of the camera angle.

      Honestly, I think the "final girl theory" more explains the formula of the writters than the actual responses of the audience.

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  3. True Neutral? by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So does this mean the young men in question would be True Neutral?

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  4. This is why by cultrhetor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, I have an MA in Literary and Rhetorical theory, and this kind of crap is why I left Literary study for Rhetoric and Digital Media when I went for the old Ph.D. The worst part is, I can probably cite most of the papers and books that this woman read, without even finding her references. It gets predictable. Want an alternate reading/viewing? Lara Croft is a modern female version of the "American Adam" archetype, as laid out by R.W.B. Lewis in 1955 in a book by the same name. She's "an individual standing alone, self-reliant and self-propelling, ready to confront whatever [awaits her] with the aid of [her] own unique and inherent resources" (p.5).

    The point - and I do have one - is simple: the beauty of cultural criticism is that everyone can debate it endlessly, and everyone who's got the right sources can be right! Yay!

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    1. Re:This is why by cultrhetor · · Score: 3, Informative

      But created for an American audience - Henry James used British characters frequently; but he was American, writing to an American audience, and the female protagonist in The Turn of the Screw is classified as an "American Adam" - but she's a British governess... SEE?!?! Everyone can be right! [FULL DISCLOSURE: I wrote my thesis on the evolving American Adam, so this is a touchy area for me. I don't mean to grouse.]

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    2. Re:This is why by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Love your shorts.

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    3. Re:This is why by clambake · · Score: 2, Funny

      the beauty of cultural criticism is that everyone can debate it endlessly, and everyone who's got the right sources can be right! Yay!

      No no no, the BEAUTY of it is that everyone can debate it endlessly and PRETEND that it's not about huge tits, when it's clearly the case that it is. That, my friend, is the beauty of cultural criticism.

  5. Kill Bill by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't really know about Lara Croft, but I'd say I felt this for Beatrix Kiddo in Kill Bill. I was like, whoa.. I really want this chick to kick ass!

  6. Cheering? by hackwrench · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What I don't get is the mention of cheering when the bad guy killed the dumb girl. Didn't they cheer just as loudly when the bad guy killed the idiot boy? For me it was about getting rid of the stupid idiots no matter what their gender and then putting the agent of destruction away once the job was done.

  7. I call shenannigans on this... by Vokkyt · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This article just did not have any convincing arguments regarding Lara Croft as a positive thing for female role model. If the intent behind Lara was anything besides selling a game with a sexy icon, then there would be no need for the misproportionate breasts, the sexual innuendos, and the skimpy outfits. If the theory of the "Final Girl" is true, would it not work with any mildly appealing women? Well, the answer to that is even revealed in his article, and that is no; the anonymous gamer, anonymous being indicative of the reliablity of his source, even says that he feels like he's protecting Lara; He's protecting Lara. As much as I dislike the Tomb Raider games, I know enough about them to know that anyone who thinks they are "protecting" Lara is disillusioned and just as misonganistic as any man from the 40's. Lara is not a person who needs protecting; the games make that clear.

    Lara is indeed a girl that every boy wants to be with, but not in a plutonic way; they want to control her, and have her be the object of their sexual fantasies.

    1. Re:I call shenannigans on this... by bunions · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Lara is indeed a girl that every boy wants to be with, but not in a plutonic way; they want to control her

      Lord knows I tried, but the camera angles are just so shitty. Seriously, I'm like "I know there's bats out there, but the camera is trapped behind some plants and all I can see is green shit, wtf mate?" ps: you mean 'platonic,' d00d. At least, I'm pretty sure you do: http://www.answers.com/plutonic&r=67

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    2. Re:I call shenannigans on this... by thestuckmud · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I played Tomb Raider in the 1996 and found it to be a groundbreaking game. The lead character's gender and appearance were minor details to me. I've played through several sequels (none of which lived up to the possibilities the franchise promised), and I honestly didn't notice sexual innuendo, paternalism, etc.

      I experienced negative reactions to the Lara Croft character only from non-gamers looking at the cover artwork (esp. from my ex-wife). My instinct tells me that many of the criticisms are based on first impressions of the advertising for Tomb Raider, not the games themselves.

      In the same way, I am not persuaded by this "final girl" nonsense. Eidos could have used an Indiana Jones type male character and still had a great game. Claiming the game is sexist because the hero is female strikes me as, well, sexist.

      Of course, I'm concerned with gameplay. I won't argue about Lara Croft's image in advertising. I'm just not interested in advertising.

  8. What are they cheering for? by lawpoop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Thousands of young men were trooping into theaters to cheer wildly as masked psychos hacked apart screaming young women... Suddenly, the young men in the audience would switch their allegiance -- and begin cheering just as madly for the Final Girl as she attacked and killed the psycho."

    Maybe the men weren't cheering for the psycho or the woman, but for the violence itself .

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  9. Buffy Anybody? by monopole · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Buffy the Vampire Slayer was originally devised by Joss Whedon (who has a degree in feminist film studies) as the reversal of the girl and the monster enter the alley and only the monster exits. In contrast, with buffy she and the monster enter the alley and only Buffy exits. The first girl is the final girl, without the misogyny.
    This is a much closer analogue to Laura Croft, or other fictional kickass ladies like the Major in Ghost in the Shell.

  10. I say bullsh*t by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hmmm the last girl who finally defeats the monster. Isn't this called "survival of the fittest"?

    However, I really don't think of Lara as the "Final Girl". She's just a tough girl, period, if not a sex symbol. C'mon, we all know she was famous for her gravity-defying measures, but later was slimmed down to appeal more to the feminine public. I much less identify with her.

    Now allow me to compare to another famous treasure hunter.

    Indiana Jones

    Family: A devout religious man (Junior?)
    Studies: Ph. D. in Archeology
    Job: Archeology teacher in Barnett College, NY ("X never ever marks the spot")
    Reasons for treasure collecting: "It belongs in a museum!"
    Favorite Gadgets: His leather whip and a Fedora with a very high sentimental value (belonged to the man who stole the Cross of Coronado).
    Sex appeal: "And my mother's ears, but the rest belongs to you."
    Most used quotes: "I hate Snakes!", and "Don't call me Junior!"

    Lara Croft

    Family: Extremely Rich family (can you compete with the Countess of Abbingdon?)
    Studies: At home
    Job: What job?
    Reasons for treasure collecting: Add to her dad's collection, and, once in a while, save the world
    Favorite Gadgets: Dual 9 mm Pistols
    Sex appeal: Boing, boing, boing!
    Most used quotes: ?

    I'll take Indiana Jones, thank you.

  11. Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And you call yourself a geek. What a looser. "Medievalist" means she likes to go the RenFaire, "Feminist" means she has higher standards then to waste time on a self important fool like you, and "Film Critic" means she likes to go to the movies. Except for the fact that she views you as a cockroach, she would be a great date for a geek.

    I think this relates to the article about a lack of new computer science students: an unacknowledged reason is that geeks don't reproduce very often.

  12. Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic" by LordKazan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are the only one, and your ignorance and misogyny is showing. Grow up, women are equals, stop associating the extremists of a group as being the extire group.

    All groups extremists drag that groups name through the mud - misogynistic punks just like to forget that

    Christian extremists drag the name of Christianity through the mud
    Muslim extremists drag the name of Islam through the mud
    Environmentalism extremists drag the name of Environmentalism through the mud
    Animal Rights extremists drag the name of Animal Rights through the mud
    Extremist feminists drag the name of Feminism through the mud

    do I really need to go on or are you going to wise up and learn that the fundamental tenents of feminism are: equality of the sexes, the right to choose their roles for both sexes, respect between the sexes.

    These extremists vary from that. There are whacko feminists who think all sex is rape, while I know several feminists who think porn awesome*: i'm marrying one of them and the other is going the PRODUCE porn. There are whacko feminists who really are "man haters" but they are not the majority by a long shot.

    So GROW UP and stop trying to pretend that the minority is the majority: feminism is about equality - not all these things that Rush Limbaugh falsely attributes to it because of some it's more extreme members.

    *except like.. snuff porn, and bukakke

    (PS: I'm a guy and a *gasp* feminist because I believe in the equality of the sexes!)

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  13. Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic" by LordKazan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You need to learn to read, and i have read feminist literature: I, like any intelligent person, ignore the extremists

    "Women who challenge patriarchal structuers, whether compulsory pregnancy, harassment on the job, or nuclear war, will be made to pay." (Barstow, Witchcraze: A New History of the European Witch)... and this crap attempts to pass itself as academic history.

    Let me restructure this sentance in a language you will understand

    if ($person->isWoman() && $person->challenges(array("patriarchy", "compulsory pregnancy", "harassment on the job", "nuclear war"))
    {
            $misogynists->attack($person);
    }

    and the statement is absolutely correct - women, and men, who stand up for the equality of the sexes are attacked by misogynistic asses like you

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  14. Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic" by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So GROW UP and stop trying to pretend that the minority is the majority: feminism is about equality - not all these things that Rush Limbaugh falsely attributes to it because of some it's more extreme members.

    There are several problems with feminism. One of them is the name. The name doesn't say "equality", it's all about women. Another one is the baggage. There've been so many radical feminists that have been embraced by the movement that there's an instant stigma attached to being a "feminist".

    Personally, I don't instantly shut down when I encounter someone describing themselves as a feminist, but I have to admit that I'm slightly less likely to pay attention, because of all the ridiculous shit that's carried the feminist banner. I'm a humanist, or maybe an equalist?, and I do believe that all people should be considered equal until they prove that they aren't.

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  15. She's the one for me. by Progman3K · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The valkyrie at my side is shouting and laughing with the pure hate for blood-thirsty joy of the slaughter

    And so am I

    The fire, baby. It'll burn us both

    There's no place in this world for our kind of fire

    My warrior woman. My valkyrie

    You'll always be mine. Always. And never

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  16. Counter interpretation by Gulthek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    [All information here shared by my wife with her English masters degree. Any and all misinformation introduced by my transcription of her description of the theory.]

    Actually Lara Croft doesn't really fit with the final girl theory. In Carol's definition you can't start with the *final* girl. She goes through a metamorphosis and becomes more masculine as she survives more of the horror.

    Interesting points about the final girl theory:

    The theory is flawed (all failings acknowledged by Carol Clover, she doesn't assert that this theory is anything grand or definite) in that it assumes that only adolescent males enjoy horror movies. The theory is completely broken if you agree that any women enjoy horror movies.

    The theory itself says that the adolescent boys can identify with the final girl without themselves feeling threatened by the killer (who is hunting women), but who demonstrates the traits of a stereotypical adolescent male masculine fantasy (surviving against all odds, strong, capable, etc.). The theory is that this is a way for young men to indirectly experience homo-erotic fantasies. The women are characteristically running from phallic, penetrating objects such as knives and other stabbing weapons. Yet the final girl is also an erotic object herself. She usually has an asexual name (like Sam) and carries a phallic object like a torch, stick, etc.

    Yes, the world of literary theory is stranger than you know. o_O

  17. Avert your eyes! by afish40 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Suddenly, the young men in the audience would switch their allegiance -- and begin cheering just as madly for the Final Girl as she attacked and killed the psycho.

    Dude, spoiler alert!

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  18. Angelina Jolie turned the genre around by Animats · · Score: 3, Insightful
    We have Angelina Jolie to thank for turning the video game movie genre around. Almost all the video game movies before "Tomb Raider" were horrible duds. ("Super Mario Brothers" was actually funny, but that's as good as it got. Few people could sit through all of "Wing Commander".) After "Tomb Raider", most video game movies were successful. It's as big a milestone in film as the first Batman movie, which demonstrated that you can make a good drama out of a comic book.

    It speaks well of Jolie as an actress that she was able to bring off the role without it being a joke.

  19. Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic" by russellh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Feminism is one front in the fight against stupor and self-centerdness.

    People are deeply self-centered, often don't understand others, or even themselves, and don't reflect upon the meaning of their actions. Society has been owned and run by men, and women have been second class citizens. When you're self-centered you just don't know and don't think about how your actions, such as running society, affects others, such as women. It's every little thing from public restrooms to drug trials, not always obvious prejudice or misogyny. feminism puts these issues front and center. I think it still needs to be there. We need radicals sometimes to shake people out of their stupor.

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  20. Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic" by dbrutus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, the task for somebody upholding moderate feminism as the defining strain of the movement has to deal with the problem of sympathizers. Sure, you may not personally geld men or go around screaming that all sex is rape but if you accept such extremism, if you don't clean your own house, you provide tacit support to those who do, providing them support and cover to espouse their hard-line views.

    This is a problem that is not unique to feminism. All political and social movements are vulnerable to the same dynamic.

    The key indictment of feminism is not that the majority of those who self-label as such are fire breathing kooks, but rather that they are far too tolerant of the kooks among them, treating with respect views that should be marginalized and even condemned.