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SketchUp Hooks Up With Google Earth

zmarties writes "Having recently bought the company and 3d design product SketchUp, Google has now taken the next step of releasing a free personal version of the SketchUp software. Currently available for Windows XP, with a Mac version 'coming soon', the program allows for simple drag and drop design of 3d models - which amongst other uses can then be displayed in Google Earth. The pro version remains available for commercial use, with lots more features. Google are also introducing 3D Warehouse, designed as a repository for 3d models created in the program. The models can be viewed in Google Earth via a network link, so you can see geolocated models as you browse the world, rather than having to explicitly download them. Google has pre-populated the warehouse with a number of models which range from complete complex buildings, such as the Taj Mahal, through to individual design elements such as traffic lights and furniture."

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  1. Vs. SketchUp Pro by chroma · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Unfortunately, the pro version offers one critical feature that the free version doesn't:
    • Access to the following 3D export formats: DWG, DXF, 3DS, OBJ, XSI, VRML and FBX.
    If you're going to have something manufactured from a SketchUp design, you'll need to be able to export in a format that can be read by something other than SketchUp. I'll save you the trouble of looking it up: the Pro version is $495.00 for both Windows and Mac. You can get a free trial of the pro version, though.
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    1. Re:Vs. SketchUp Pro by eMartin · · Score: 4, Informative

      "In other words, look at Sketchup - but don't touch if you want access to your data."

      Do you do 3D work?

      Some of us do. These days, we mostly "access" our data with 3D software. Not text editors. *Most* 3D programs use proprietary formats to store data specific to their own features.

      With that said, Sketchup offers several import and export options to other standard 3D formats, and can be extended with plugins to support more.

    2. Re:Vs. SketchUp Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, the PRO version has the ability to export to several standard formats. The free personal version does not.

      Of course, almost anyone using it for "personal use" is going to be fine with just being able to access it in sketchup. Heck, most people using for personal use it won't have access to software that can read the other formats, which by themselves generally start at around $300 or so. The OP is complaining that people aren't giving their work out for free (as in beer or speech) to companies that are willing to fork out the money for programs that can read .dwg (AutoCAD native format; the LT [Light] version starts @ $899 IIRC), .3ds (Autodesk 3DS MAX format, don't remember the cost) and other formats that also require expensive software.

      Sketchup is a toy and a tool both. As a toy, it can be used to create incredible looking models that can be shown off to friends via printing and screencapturing. This does not require coversion to other formats. As a tool, it can be wonderful for allowing a person to change a structure on the fly to match their requirements, and is (potentially) worth the money they spend on it.

      Incidentally, I am a draftsman/designer by trade, and while I do think that the software is in general overpriced, the market is not exactly a monopoly anymore. If the price for software is too high, the items will simply not sell. Also, Sketchup is a great program for 3d modeling of some types of objects, but for 3d models of structures it is not the best tool for the job. The simplest and most useful software for that (that I have used) is Chief Architect, by ART Inc; Chief sells for $1295 for the cheap version (that lacks several very useful features) or $1995 for the full version.

      If you want free CAD, try QCAD on Linux or IntelliCAD on Windows. But they aren't fully featured yet; apparently, nobody has been able to pay the people working on them enough to keep them working hard enough to make the program match AutoCAD.

    3. Re:Vs. SketchUp Pro by DragonWriter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are free programs that import and export many of the widely-used formats, so it is not accurate to say that the formats require an expensive product (other than on the SketchUp end) to work with. Sure, the product which makes each of the big formats popular is expensive, but that's not the same thing.

  2. Guess where this is going by gasmonso · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd imagine a huge opensource type project where people contribute their own models of places into this. Then eventually the entire planet will be mapped in 3D.

    http://religiousfreaks.com/
  3. free trial.. by joeldg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    if you have not tried out this program.. download it now..
    the push/pull tool is amazing and so intuitive it is like .. "magic".. has been a long time since I have been that impressed at a program.

    read some of the reviews out there and see what people are doing with it. The online galleries are inspiring..

    you can import almost any model, export to almost any kind of model..

    amazing amazing program I have been using for a few months now..

    1. Re:free trial.. by bhtooefr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cue annoying testimonial about how this is the first "easy" 3D modeling app that I can understand...

      Oh, wait. It is the first easy 3D modeling app that I can understand. ;)

  4. SketchUp rendering by pubjames · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Everyone should try SketchUp out. It is great - you can make a scale accurate model of your house in no time.

    The only problem with it from my point of view is that it isn't really made for rendering - its output is fairly blocky visually. Which brings me to my question - has anyone successfully used SketchUp to create complex models that they've then rendered in another application? If so, how did you do it and do you have an example image on the web we can see?

    1. Re:SketchUp rendering by wordsofwisedumb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      SketchUp works pretty well exporting to other programs for rendering. I am an architecture student, and many of my classmates export its models to Cinema 4D, some textures actually crossover. I have also seen exports to Lightwave and Maya, all very successful. It is best to try to find an importer plugin for the rendering program you are using as exporting from SketchUp to other programs turns all geometries into triangles. If you do not have any other rendering program, SketchUp can actually look very nice if you turn off the edges and profiles under the display settings palette. A little photoshop on the rendering can do wonders as well.

    2. Re:SketchUp rendering by zxnos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      that is the intent of sketchup... ...say it with me, SKETCH. it isnt made for slick renderings, the point is to get a decent representation to a client for a low cost. another benefit is its sketchiness. when a client sees hard lines, they are less apt to approve something - or add input - for fear it is a final, you must do exactly this version. if you want to develop a design collaboratively, a sketch is the best thing for you.

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    3. Re:SketchUp rendering by eMartin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "The only problem with it from my point of view is that it isn't really made for rendering..."

      That's not a problem at all.

      A lot of people get into computer graphics and try to find one software package that does everything really well, but it just doesn't exist (or at least, they would get their work done a lot quicker with multiple tools).

      SketchUp is a modeling program, and for certain types of work, it is very good at what it does, and offers several export formats to let you work with other programs for the other stuff (rendering, curved surfaces, etc.).

      Personally, I've been using it for architectural modeling for about 4 years along with Rhino for curved surfaces and Maya (previously Cinema 4D) for rendering. No, I don't have work online to show, but you can browse the gallery forum at sketchup.com to see what others do with it.

    4. Re:SketchUp rendering by bsy_at_play · · Score: 3, Informative

      i don't think the images are all that blocky, though limiting the number of polygons make smoothly curving surfaces difficult/not as nice. http://www.bennetyee.org/bathroom/ contains a sketchup model that i made to help communicate what we want with contractors. of the complex shapes that i had to make, the lighting fixture took the most time and the sink is the least realistic. i didn't include additional surface images and only used the ones provided (with some stretching for the glass tiles), but i think it turned out pretty well.

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  5. This is what makes Google kewl by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    While there's definitely a market for a product like Sketchup, Google usually goes a step further and introduces features that may not necessarily make money for them, but are cool to use and fun to understand for regular geeks and lay-users.

    In this case, it's the free version of Sketchup, the free design warehouse and "geolocation" feature within the free version of Google Earth. Quite cool, IMHO.

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  6. Blender is Already Free by plaidhacker · · Score: 5, Informative

    I recently wrote a KML (Google Earth) export script for Blender.org. Blender is certainly less intuitive than SketchUp, but its undeniably more powerful, as well as open source. It supports importing and exporting a number of other industry standards, so you could use it to transform models you already have.

    Blender KML Export
    Blender.org

    1. Re:Blender is Already Free by pubjames · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Blender is certainly less intuitive than SketchUp

      You said it!

      We need an Open Source modeller that is as easy to use as SketchUp. That would rock!

    2. Re:Blender is Already Free by slapout · · Score: 3, Informative

      Check out Blender: Noob to Pro. Once you get used to it, the interface makes a lot of sense.

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  7. Cycas comparison? by snopes · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've used a program which runs on Linux called Cycas for quite a bit of scale floor plans, but have found the interface frustrating and as a result never dig into 3D much and rendering at all.

    Has anyone used both? Is SketchUp useful at all for something like a detailed floorplan, or just for big primitive, blocky structures? Is it really so unbelievably easy to use that it's worth booting into XP?

    TIA-

    1. Re:Cycas comparison? by AdamWeeden · · Score: 2, Informative

      Has anyone used both?

      For the sake of honesty, I must say no.

      Is SketchUp useful at all for something like a detailed floorplan, or just for big primitive, blocky structures?

      I've used it for floorplans before and found it quite easy.

      Is it really so unbelievably easy to use that it's worth booting into XP?

      I think so, but, again for the sake of honesty, I admit I have little problem with XP and use it as my daily operating system.

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  8. Re:Who gives by bhirsch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We call it return on equity. If Linux had higher market share, developing applications for it would have a higher ROE. Google develops software with other people's money. Those people do not want to see their money being used to develop a product that yields a low or even negative ROE.

    You can make the argument that if more apps were available for Linux, it would have higher market share. Unfortunately, not every company is (in fact very few are) interested in evangelism.

    Even if Google developed for Linux and could yield the same ROE from developing for Windows, the risk of investment would be much higher while the return would not change. Ergo, it is not a sound financial decision.

    (Of course there are many other methods of measuring return, but I think ROE is most significant in this case since it represents the money that the stockholders put into the company. In other words, it is the bang for their buck.)

  9. First Impressions by kebes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just downloaded the program and am playing with it. My first impressions:

    Pro:
    Very intuitive interface. Unlike most 3D modelling programs, you can start creating and coloring objects immediately. You can create simple layouts very quickly, and then use the neat "tape measure" tool to measure distances. This is absolutely great for making a model of a room to consider different layouts for desks or whatever.

    Con:
    As in many cases, simplicity leads to limited designs. To make anything complex would be a nightmare. Also, I can't see any way to make things look "slick and cool" or to render them in anything but a simplistic cartoon-like style. It has none of the elegant programatic control of something like POVray, for instance.

    Overall I think it's a neat toy that some people may enjoy, but I think anyone serious about 3D will give it a pass (including, I'm guessing, the Pro version). On the other hand, I would like to see some open-source projects get some inspiration about the interface from this program. An add-on to POVray for creating simple shapes (with the more complex work then being done in code) would be nice.

    1. Re:First Impressions by zxnos · · Score: 4, Interesting
      but I think anyone serious about 3D will give it a pass

      as an architect, i use it all the time. i can spend 4 hours in sketchup creating a decent model with people and trees for a client to see the massing and a walkthrough of their house or office building. all kinds of other studies can be done quickly in sketchup.

      or i can spend 16 hours in formz or some other rendering program. guess what the client usually wants early in the game... ...when marketing the slick image comes in. but then i can import the sketchup image and apply textures, lights, etc.

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  10. Does Google have a Linux strategy? by erroneus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not quite as married to Google as other users although I use Google to search almost exclusively. But I'm disappointed that there is no Linux version of Google Earth. Now another Google offering that's not Linux. Frankly, I'm disappointed.

    1. Re:Does Google have a Linux strategy? by saltydogdesign · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No Amiga version either. What the hell's the matter with those people? How do you explain a company making free software and not porting it to niche markets with little demand???

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  11. Anyone tried Wings? by Peepsalot · · Score: 4, Informative

    I haven't had a chance to use SketchUp yet, but from the screenshot it looks slightly similar to Wings 3d
    http://www.wings3d.com/

    I may be completely off comparing the two, but it's definitely a fun program to play with anyways. Open source and more intuitive than other alternatives such as blender IMHO.

  12. VRML back on the agenda ? by axonis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe this is where the old VRML school of thought will pickup again, how long until avatars, proximity tiggers, animation etc are added to google earth ?. Im shure there is an advertising angle for virtual bill boards etc.

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  13. The downside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While there's definitely a market for a product like Sketchup, Google usually goes a step further and introduces features that may not necessarily make money for them, but are cool to use and fun to understand for regular geeks and lay-users

    The downside to Google's approach though is that it has a tendency to kill the competitive market for the technologies that they make available for free. On the one hand, this is an issue of natural selection, if you're weak, you won't survive. On the other hand, people have blasted companies that have monopolies in the past with killing third parties by introducing "free" or "built-in" functionality that already exsists in the market. The most obvious example being IE. As Google continues to bring about these technologies for free, it's good for the consumer in the short term, but is bad for other third party developers in the short term, and could be detrimental to the consumer in the long term.

  14. It does what it says on the tin! by happywillo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although looked down on by serious modellers, I find that sketchup models are better recieved by clients. I spent years with 3D Studio and lightscape trying to make realistic models that never quite seemed believable and now use sketchup as a tool to give clients an impression rather than a finished "as bought item". I find that it is perfectly suited to my discipline as it is just a maquette rather than a "disneyfication" of reality that most modelling programs achieve. The surfaces, shadows and light refraction may look real, but in the end the building always looks too crisp against the background photos used for montage (so lets stop pretending!). Just my few cents worth as an Architect/ IT manager for a firm of Architects.

  15. SketchUp hooks up with Google Earth? by bk4u · · Score: 2, Funny

    hope they used protection

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  16. SketchUp's sweet by XenonOfArcticus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's a bunch of great guys in Boulder, Colorado (not too far from my company in Morrison). Their product kicks butt. If you want intuitive 3D modelling, get it. It's pretty cool that they have released a free version for Google modeling. I don't think it's really monopolistic/anticompetitive, because the free version ONLY works with Google Earth. It can't export to anything else useful. You still have to buy the $500 Pro version for that. And $500 is a bargain for what you get.

    Yes, their freebie version is useful for people who want to model their own house and not use it in Google Earth, but really, you can't say they're shutting out anyone here by making it free -- there's Free Software like Blender and Wings3D that have been out forever that filled that niche too, and so far the market for 3D modeling tools has failed to collapse. (The difference being that ANYONE can learn SketchUp in a few hours. Really.)

    Commercial diclosure and plugs: My company makes an add-on foliage library for SketchUp and a Google Earth Exporter for our 3D Landscape visualization software. But I don't get diddly for kickbacks from Google/SketchUp. I really do think they have a kickin product.

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  17. Google to implement Second Life over http by GOD_ALMIGHTY · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Think about it. Everything Google is building is going to allow you integrate many of the features articles are talking about with Second Life. Only you'll be able to do it over HTTP with AJAX and their web service APIs.

    The map server can be used to create worlds, the 3d stuff can be used to populate them. They can create new environments based on domains, so the real world domain might only have real world details. But they could also build another model for say Google Groups Clubhouses®©. We've been seeing people use Second Life for these purposes, what if Google made it so anyone could integrate a Second Life type feature into their website or web services application?

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