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Texas Senator Proposes Game Tax

Via 1up, an article at the Brownsville Herald detailing a proposed tax on videogames. From the article: "The McAllen Democrat said on Wednesday he plans to propose a 5 percent tax on videogames when he and other members of the Senate Finance Committee meet this weekend to discuss a series of tax bills. It would raise about $65 million every two years and be designated for new schools and building upgrades at poor school districts, he said. 'You have all these kids buying videogames, and sometimes they are good, some are bad and that's not my call,' Hinojosa said. 'But I think that we can generate (money) to put toward the schools they go to.'"

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  1. Oh, man. I wish I was still in school... by HaloZero · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Stop playing that game and finish your homework!' 'Wait! Dad! I'm... uh... helping... fund... the school! YEAH!' 'So that's what that new tax is. [laugh] Alright, kid. Go for it.'

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  2. What's the difference? by ameoba · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just love how our legislators feel that video games need to be treated differently than movies, books, music or any other form of entertainment. Any argument that can be made for taxing games is going to be equally valid to any other entertainment medium.

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  3. idiots and politicians by Toby+The+Economist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are ways to tax and there are ways to tax.

    Most are highly inequitious - such as this tax.

    Why should people buying software be paying for schools?

    Is there some link here? of course not.

    There are well-known principles of general taxation which are equitious and minimize the discouragement caused by taxation to industry. These need to be followed at all times.

    ANYONE suggesting tax should be done otherwise is a complete idiot with regard to economics and should be kept WELL away from any such decisions.

    Would you have a politician making design decisions for particle accelerators? of course not - you know full well that simply being a politician doesn't make you a physicist.

    In EXACTLY the same way, being a politician does not make you an economist - and if politicians are then making economic decisions, their decisions will lead to an economy in the exact same state as the particle accelerator they would otherwise have built.

    Tax is too complicated and too closely related to freedom to be used to implement political policy.

  4. define "videogame" in the form of law by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would Windows be considered taxable because it afterall contains Solitare and Minesweeper which clearly are games?

  5. Re:More money for schools by jtshaw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ya... because teachers and administrators in public schools are so overpaid...

    The problem isn't that the money goes to people who WORK at the schools, it goes to useless government employees that DON'T WORK at the schools and over price supplies that seam to evaporate into thin air.

    It is sad that my first job out of college after undergrad paid more then then public school teachers in some states with 25+ years of experience. It would probably be a lot easier to draw a large number of good teachers (and administrators) if they could provide some reasonable salaries...

  6. Re:More money for schools by ElleyKitten · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ya... because teachers and administrators in public schools are so overpaid...

    Teachers aren't overpaid... but administrators are. At least at the district my husband works in, the administrators make much more than the teachers, and they, unlike teachers, cannot be laid off. Seriously, his district lays off teachers every year (driving up class sizes more and more), and when they finally passed a levy, guess what they did. Hired more administrators.

    Schools need smaller classes and better teachers. Everything else is just fluff.

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  7. Oh, if Texas politics were only that simple... by Tetris+Ling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Disclaimer: I am a Texan Democrat who had a government teacher who loved to rant about Texas politics. For this, I apologize.

    OK, it isn't really as simple as a Democrat/Republican thing. Texas tax politics are an icky morass from whence the few who enter seldom return. First of all, because almost all of the state's revenue comes from sales taxes (like this one), the state budget is incredibly sensitive to flucuations in the economy. This problem would be abated if Texas lowered sales taxes and implemented a income tax or state property tax. Even if you aren't from Texas, you should be able to guess that the chances of this are low.

    Now, the main way the state government saves money in a crunch is by shifting costs from the state to local level. Hence, most schools in Texas are funded by local property taxes. This is fine for richer neighborhoods (like the one I grew up in), but does nothing to help poorer parts of the state.

    What is really needed is a complete overhaul of the tax system. Even if there was the political will to do this, it would be a huge, painful process that would be difficult to design correctly and even more difficult to sell to the public.

    Now, I think this is a stupid piece of legislation, and I don't think it's going to pass, and even if it passes, I don't imagine it will do much at all for Texas schools. But let's not be so quick to accuse Republicians, conservatives, Democrats, or even Texans for not caring about education. This is a very difficult problem that is difficult to fix.

  8. Re:from the wtf dept by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Informative
    "you know...if these politicians took a 5% pay-cut"

    There are 181 members of the Texas Legislature (31 Senators and 150 Representatives). Each one earns $7,200 a year (really!) , your 5% pay cut idea would save the state $65,160.

    In 2005, the amount of money the Texas Legislature appropriated for general education was $13 Billion. So you'd be increasing that by 0.000005%

    Nice try, thanks for playing.

    "(or just forgo a raise for a year)"

    This is a state proposal, not federal. The Texas Legislature cannot raise its own salary ("cost of living" or otherwise) without the matter first being put before the voters (which is why they're stuck at $7,200 to begin with).

    "if Chenney would donate some of his return"

    1. He's from Wyoming, not Texas, otherwise Texas couldn't vote for the Bush/Cheney ticket.
    2. He owed the IRS money, to the tune of over $500,000
    3. Even if he donated every cent he made in 2005 (around $2 million), you'd still be increasing educational spending in Texas by 0.00015%.


    "that's alot of money for a po' person like me and old Oprah"

    But a drop in the bucket in the budget for one of the most economically vibrant states in the Union.
  9. You don't know anything. by acidrain69 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just about everything you said was BS.

    I don't know where you live, but I don't know anywhere outside large, high-cost-of-living cities that pay starting teachers $40k+.

    My wife is a teacher, with a masters degree, and even with the masters she doesn't make $40k.

    And just because you work 8 months a year, it doesn't automatically translate to a $60k a year salary. You try finding seasonal work that will pay you $5k per month. Oh wait, you just got out of high school.

    No one is saying there should be 10 kids to a class. But when you have 25-30 kids running around like crazy, it is more difficult to handle them.

    I don't know when we ever had 50 students to a classroom in a single room schoolhouse, but the 1870's are so last century. The curriculum is a million times harder than it was then, when most people didn't go to college or even high school. We may not be #1 in the world (or 2 or 3 or 4 etc) but we are WAAAAY more educated as a country than we were back then.

    Don't even get me started on "No child left behind" and the FCAT. I know many teachers. My mother. My mother in law. Many of my wife's friends. They all have to teach less and focus on the bullshit FCAT.

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