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Linux Version of Democracy Player Released

clahey writes "The Participatory Culture Foundation just released Democracy Player 0.8.2 for Linux, the first beta version for Linux. It's a free software internet TV client with built in support for both RSS video podcasts and downloading using BitTorrent. It can even scrape web pages for videos. It's an excellent way to find great internet video. For example, once you've installed Democracy, make sure to check out The Postal Service - Such Great Heights on the Telemusicvision channel."

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  1. No video? by CCFreak2K · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nothing for you to see here. Please move along.

    How appropriate for an internet TV appliance article.

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  2. What's that saying again... by Stormwatch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Never let open-source programmers decide the name of their applications!

    1. Re:What's that saying again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I tried installing Democracy but the corporations have root.

    2. Re:What's that saying again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hear Democracy is not currently available in the US. ;-)

    3. Re:What's that saying again... by Ilgaz · · Score: 2, Funny

      We are using Democracy (was DTV) for ages. Man it is surreal on OS X.

      1)Quit Democracy
      2)Hide democracy
      3) Hide others

      etc.

  3. Nice Summary! by paulthomas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why should I take special care to "check out the Postal Service?"

    What exactly does this bring to the table? People who had or have an interest in the band probably saw the video in 2003 when it was released. It has NOTHING to do with the software being advertised.

    Perhaps if the video were mentioned in the article it would be more accepta--OH WAIT! What article? All we have is a link to the home page of this project. Okay, it's open source, and it's probably cool. Fine. Submit an article, or at least a summary that doesn't suck. This awful writeup belongs more on digg than on slashdot, in my opinion.

    1. Re:Nice Summary! by Wannabe+Code+Monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why should I take special care to "check out the Postal Service?"

      What exactly does this bring to the table? People who had or have an interest in the band probably saw the video in 2003 when it was released. It has NOTHING to do with the software being advertised.

      Hey now, calm down now buddy. I'll see if I can help shed some light on the problem. Here's a quote from the summary: It can even scrape web pages for videos. It's an excellent way to find great internet video. For example... It then goes on to talk about the Postal Service video you mentioned. They were using this specific video as an example of how it can scrape web pages for videos, one of the features of this video player. A specific example given to display the features of a product seems very apropos to me.

      Perhaps if the video were mentioned in the article it would be more accepta--OH WAIT! What article? All we have is a link to the home page of this project. Okay, it's open source, and it's probably cool. Fine. Submit an article

      Since when are articles the only thing you can link to in a slashdot submission? It's an open source video player with (apparently) tons of cool features with its first released linux version. It sounds interesting and slashdot worthy. And, how else could you get any more information about an open source program other than linking to it's web site? Probably better than a press release or article.

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  4. Unfortunately, it's still buggy as hell... by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been using the democracy player under OSX and Windows for the last several versions. It also frequently crashes, often taking out its config files in the process. The bitorrent bits wreak havoc on your network connection (on OSX and WinXP). The Linux version JUST became available, but given the problems with the more "mature" platforms, I'm reluctant to inflict it on my Linux laptop...

    1. Re:Unfortunately, it's still buggy as hell... by CarpetShark · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The last windows version was pretty bad. However, the linux version at least uses different user interface technology, and the last release was largely focused on stability. I just used it for a few hours on Linux, and for a first version, it's pretty good. Not without its faults, but download it, try it, file bug reports, and keep on using it 'til they're fixed; I'm sure you won't be disappointed :)

  5. You Blasted Democrats! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    F* off you democrats! We don't need your Democracy propaganda on Slashdot.

    1. Re:You Blasted Democrats! by lakerdonald · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Soviet Democracy, Slashdot propogates YOU!

  6. slashvertising? by illuminatedwax · · Score: 5, Funny

    This player is really neat! But there are other players out there.

    For example, once you've read this comment, make sure you check out Nickelback's new smash hit, "All The Right Reasons" on www.supermusicchannel.com today! And once you've done that, make sure you go to www.pepsico.com for your chance to enter a FREE sweepstakes to win more Pepsi products!

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  7. Non-commercial project by CarpetShark · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't know if I'd call this advertising. Democracy Player *seems* to be a non-commercial project. The code is open, and the development model is relatively open too. I'm not quite convinced of their openness and intentions though, since their channel guide seems to be closed. If it remains closed, it's a way for them to lock-in customers, AND producers, by building up a large database of media that no one else can put into their own products. More importantly, the channel guide URL can't be changed in the software, so users can't set it to an independent channel guide that they might prefer. They have a lot of work on their plates right now though, so I'll give them a little more time to sort this all out before I judge them too harshly :)

    1. Re:Non-commercial project by clahey · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, the channel guide URL is currently setable, but only as an environment variable. The documentation for the API to use on your website to make it work with Democracy is at https://develop.participatoryculture.org/projects/ democracy/wiki/ChannelGuideToDtvApi

      I believe the plans are to make the channel guide settable through the GUI. If nothing else, I think a gconf key is in order.

      You can also submit your channels to the main channel guide. I'm not sure what our policy is on things like porn, but I'm positive that you definitely won't be filtered out for political reasons.

      And one of the things to note is that the Participatory Culture Foundation is a non-profit. There's no profit margin for us to sell out to.

  8. Dependancy issues on Dapper by eqisow · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Ubuntu .deb has dependancy issues on Ubuntu Dapper Drake. dpkg complains of libboost-python1.33.0 being missing because Dapper use libboost-python1.33.1.

    1. Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper by rolfpal · · Score: 2, Informative

      I fixed it by going to /usr/lib and doing "sudo ln -s libboost_python-gcc-mt-1_33_1.so.1.33.1 libboost_python-gcc-mt-1_33.so.1.33.0"

      The other dependencies (for me) were just mozilla-browser and mozilla-psm

      It crashes right after playing a video tho

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  9. Similar to ACTLab TV and Songbird by UseFree.org · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is similar to another open-source endeavor called ACTLab TV, with which you can stream TV programs from multiple users in real-time. A story about ACTLab TV appeared about a year ago.

    It is also similar to Songbird, the Itunes-like application that focuses primarily on enabling users to download DRM-free music from independent artists. Songbird was also covered recently.

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  10. Re:The name is accurate by humina · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Democracy = TV = advertising = buying things and throwing them in landfills while your society overpopulates, pollutes, and destroys all finer things for convenience. Brilliant name!

    Infoterror = woke up on wrong side of bed = likes making two sides of an equation not equal = Insightful mod. Brilliant Post!

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  11. Re:more like Democrack Player by cahiha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because YouTube and Google are commercial sites that host the content with commercial motives in mind and with commercial constraints on their operations. They are free right now because those companies want to grab a big chunk of market share and prevent the kind of democratic, distributed infrastructure from appearing that Democracy player is intended to give you.

    Democracy player is an attempt at letting anybody host and distribute video without having YouTube or Google-like bandwidth at their disposal.

    I'm sorry if you don't get why this might be important.

    Maybe it will help if you think a little about IM services. The reason why we have AOL and MSN and all those other centralized commercial services that play poorly with FOSS, that are easy to listen in on, and that impose all sorts of restrictions is not technical, it's because those services managed to grab market share quickly, before a distributed IM infrastructure could take hold. If it hadn't been for that historical accident, IM would probably be more like E-mail today, with tens of thousands of interoperable hosts and open protocols.

    People would like Internet video streaming to be more like E-mail services than like IM services: distributed and open.

  12. Re:Can't install on Mandriva or compile source by cgreuter · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can always:

    1. Get the source RPM.
    2. Use rpm2cpio to extract the contents.
    3. Look at the spec file to see how it builds the player.

    That sometimes works for me.

  13. Re:Does it mean anthing that... by DrGalaxy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And if one is running Mandriva? Suse? .... .. then you learn about how to install the dependent software and build packages for your distro. If you are into Participating in your Culture, you will redistribute the package, or maybe even join the project and make a new package for each stable release. Sorry they don't have silver platters for everyone, I think it is pretty smooth that they have been able to develop this 'platform' for Linux, Windows and Mac at the same time.

    I also think that they are being realistic by focusing on Windows and Mac computers because they are more commonly used by content producers and consumers.