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On The BBC 2.0

novus ordo writes "BBC has been exploring the 'Web 2.0' approach in its future plans 'to keep the BBC relevant in the digital age.' They have also put an experimental catalogue online. 'This will allow you to find out about any of the one million programmes that the BBC holds in its archive, going right back to 1937. It's a window onto an amazing cultural and national resource.' They have also opened up a competition to completely redesign its home page."

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  1. Re:Staying Relevant by masklinn · · Score: 3, Informative

    Consequently a "centrist" POV for Brits looks right wing in the US.

    You meant "left wing" (prob. a typo), other than that this remark is true all over europe. In most european countries, Democrats would well be the right wing and Republicans would be the far right.

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  2. There's also the RadioListings web site by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 3, Informative

    Although the catalogue is a great source of data it needs interpretation, and that's where sites like mine - http://www.radiolistings.co.uk/ - come in.

    I take the data the BBC (and other stations) list, edit it it for readability, and include things like series and episode numbers - things that are essential for any collectors.

    Yes, this is a blatent plug for my site.

  3. Re:Is it Just me.... by Mr+Thinly+Sliced · · Score: 3, Informative

    You know the BBC is not a standard US 'for-profit' corporate - right?

    Check out their 'about us' stuff.

    The BBC is financed by a TV licence paid by households. It does not have to serve the interests of advertisers, or produce a return for shareholders. This means it can concentrate on providing high quality programmes and services for everyone, many of which would not otherwise be supported by subscription or advertising.
  4. Re:Is it Just me.... by wfberg · · Score: 2, Informative


    Its becoming more and more common for legitimate companies to start a "competition" for one thing or another, its one thing for an FOSS project to hold these competitions or events, but for a "for profit" to hold these competitions seems like either lazyiness (their web developer doesn't want to) or incompetitance (their web developer isn't able to) I mean, honestly, just hire someone to do it


    No, it's what we like to call "just a marketing gimmick". In fact, they even address any "ripping off" or "freeloading" concerns on the blog right there. They'll be using any winning design for one day only, as you'd expect from a marketing gimmick.

    Also, the BBC isn't a "for profit". It's a corporation founded by royal charter, funded directly by the public via a "TV license fee". While it does own several for-profit entities (such as BBC America), the corporation itself is a non-profit.

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  5. Re:Xmltv of tv and radio programmes by Neeex · · Score: 2, Informative
    They do, via the Radio Times (which is a BBC service/publication).

    See here for more details.

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  6. Re:huh? by Stalks · · Score: 3, Informative
    And if it did, they'd be in realplayer format (don't install realplayer - it's crap).

    So install Real Alternative instead.

  7. BBC on /.'s revamp? by jbn-o · · Score: 5, Informative

    An interesting point from the BBC "Reboot" Q&A considering /.'s recent webpage redesign contest:

    [...]To kick-off, jay left the following comment on the blog: "What you are really asking for is numerous submissions of what is in essence a $million rebranding. Not a bad exchange for an apple laptop."

    I think it's worth pointing out from the very beginning that we are not asking people to provide million £ rebranding for us. Indeed we are NOT going to use or commission any designs for the final front page. Yes, we will turn the winning design into the homepage for a day - but that's as a prize and as recognition for the winning producer's efforts (and if they really don't want us to, then we won't).

    I would completely agree with jay that we would be ripping people off if we were going to turn entries submitted into the final homepage design. But that's not the objective of this competition.

  8. Re:Xmltv of tv and radio programmes by pldms · · Score: 5, Informative

    The BBC provides extensive listings for all channels, covering one week, in the tv-anytime xml format. It's updated every morning.

    7 Day Listings

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  9. Online archive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The French institute called INA (institut national de l'audiovisuel) has opened online archives, with free video and audio content (you can also pay for high quality versions).

    It's available here : http://www.ina.fr/archivespourtous/index.php

  10. In Sweden as well... by isecore · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Swedish government-owned TV networks are exploring similar options. SVT (as they're called, sorry, not sure if their site is available in Anglosaxon) are working on making available all of their archives over the internet.

    A small(ish) selection of the historical archives is available, and shows are available online up to a week after having been aired - but the plan is that one day all of the archives will be indexed and digitized and viewable over the intarweb. There's also rumors that this will be completely free for everyone who lives in the country and pays the state-imposed TV-license.

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  11. Re:huh? by Coryoth · · Score: 4, Informative

    who'd install `real crap` on their unix machine anyway ?

    Given the quality of RealPlayer for Linux (basically just HelixPlayer packaged with proprietary codecs) I certainly would. I seen the Windows RealPlayer, so I certainly understand your reservations... but HelixPlayer and RealPlayer are remarkably simple clean multimedia players. Well worth the effort.

    Jedidiah.

  12. Re:I looked for the Churchill speech by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative
    From the front page of the linked site:

    DOES NOT INCLUDE:
    Anything to listen to or watch... Sorry, but the programmes themselves are not available.
    That would probably be why. Hopefully they will appear soon, since the BBC's charter does make it clear that it is their duty to get their content to as wide an audience within the UK as possible.
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  13. Re:great resource, but incomplete by Cal+Paterson · · Score: 4, Informative

    programmes which do not exist

    This notice is because some programs (such as Dad's Army) have had tapes written over/destroyed because of previous BBC policy.

  14. Re:Is it Just me.... by Mr+Thinly+Sliced · · Score: 2, Informative

    Disclaimer: I am British, living in Belgium and get the Beeb over cable here.

    Probably the biggest benefit is that lack of adverts - it also helps in keeping the other channels amount of ADs down too.

    The best programmes (shows) that come out of the BBC have to be their natural history and documentaries - some of the National Geographic stuff is in this calibre I must admit. I don't hold the Beeb up on a pedestal though, but consider the standard to be perhaps a little higher .-)

  15. Re:Staying Relevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's an investigation of one specific incident and also hardly one that could be called "anti-Semitic" (and definitely not "anti-semetic"). A number of people thought Arafat stood the best chances of negotiating peace with Israel (a far stretch in my opinion), because he had so much loyalty within the Palestinian population. For much of Palestinian history he was the country's biggest political figure, and therefore was seen to represent the struggle for sovereignty, flaws and all. To say that it's anti-Semitic to cry for him is to insult victims of actual anti-Semitism. -A Jew

    One of the ironies involved here is that the Palestinians actually are Semitic (and speak a Semitic language), whereas the majority of Israelis are not.
    Then there's the quite deliberate confusing of Zionism with Judeism. Even though plenty of Zionists (and supporters) don't even claim to be Jewism, even including a "Jew Haters" (the odd few "Jew hating Jews" too), many Jews are rather indifferent to the whole idea of Zionism and some of it's strongest critics (including those who claim that it is impossible for someone to be both Jewish and a Zionist) are Othodox Rabbi...