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Microsoft Customers Balk at Hard Sell

HangingChad writes "ComputerWorld is running an article about Microsoft's latest type of sales force scare tactic. Apparently Microsoft is using the new title of 'engagement manager' to attempt sales via intimidation. From the article: 'Indeed, according to Microsoft's Web site, the responsibility of someone with Lawless' title of "engagement manager" is to "perform as an integrated member of the account team, drive business development and closing of new services engagements in targeted accounts."'"

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  1. Meaningless blurb by Jason1729 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The blurb uses a lot of words to say very little.

    From TFA, MS is sending their sales people after customers claiming the customer is not in license compliance and they need to send an inspection team in. They are very threatening, implying if the company doesn't comply, they'll face legal prosecution. Once the inspection team gets in, they try to get the customer to buy more products.

  2. It's not new, but not every has experienced it. by khasim · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft has been doing this for years.

    But not every one of their customers has experienced it. So it is "new" to them.

    The reality is that many of Microsoft's customers are "pirates" but only in the sense that they do not keep the kind of records that Microsoft demands when doing an audit.

    It isn't enough to have the box the software came in, along with the hologram and the license certificate and so on and on and on.

    You also need to be able to PROVE that all of that isn't fake.

    And since Microsoft specifically REFUSES to track the license keys and such, the only way to "prove" that the software is legit is to have the original sales receipt from an approved Microsoft vendor.

    And that's even if you're not really pirating their software. In past versions, they've made it as easy as possible for companies to pirate their stuff AND as difficult as possible for companies to ensure that they are in compliance without spending lots of hours recording and checking their licenses.

    So, even if you had 50 machines and you had bought 50 licenses ... you were out of compliance if:

    #1. Those licenses couldn't be found.
    #2. Those licenses weren't matched to receipts from MS vendors.
    #3. The machines had been "imaged" with a common image without purchasing the MS license agreement that authorized that.

    It's all about driving sales.

  3. bad summary. by twitter · · Score: 5, Informative
    Once the inspection team gets in, they try to get the customer to buy more products.

    They never got to that point because AWC's lawyer told them to stick it.

    It it works like a BSA raid, M$ will get a court order for an inspection based on some kind of "evidence", which could be anything from an anonymous phone call by a disgruntled employee to some program the secretary installed phoning home. AWC would then have the choice of paying for the inspection or another even more expensive "service" from a list M$ offers. The raid itself would involve massive disruption of work.

    This is the appropriate response.

    --

    Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.

  4. Re:You must be new here by jimicus · · Score: 5, Informative
    This part is true; I've evaluated several.

    However, at the last check (about 5 months ago), not a single one provided the pretty integrated solution that Outlook and Exchange does. At best, they require a separate plugin for Outlook. I found that adding a plugin which sucks to a PIM which sucks does not tend to reduce the overall level of sucking - indeed, with any significant number of client PCs and a requirement that everyone shares their calendars in an integrated system, Exchange rapidly starts to look attractive.

    At worst, they provide nothing more than a web-based interface (yes, this will get screams from those who "must" use Outlook), with one or more of the following:

    • Poor multi-language support
    • Bits which sort-of work, mostly don't.
    • Help files in a completely different language.
    • Very poor community in terms of users and support. I think this guy has a point.
    • (this is the real killer to the sales, marketing and management folks who are focused on appearance and functionality, with little concern about Microsoft), THEY DON'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE OUTLOOK.


    If you're lucky, you'll be able to get a usable solution and find a web-based system which doesn't completely suck and you'll get buy-in from the rest of the business.

    Now watch this get modded into oblivion because it doesn't tow the party line that There is a Good Open Source Replacement for Everything....