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SUSE Linux 10.1 Screenshot Tour

An anonymous reader writes "Distrowatch reports - Following some eight months of testing, the openSUSE project has finally released the long-delayed and much-awaited SUSE Linux 10.1: 'After lot of work and several delays, we proudly announce the availability of SUSE Linux 10.1. As usual, we ship all the latest open source packages available at the time. We want to give special mention to Xgl for 3D acceleration on the desktop, NetworkManager for getting painless WiFi access everywhere, the completely open source AppArmor 2.0, and the full integration of Xen 3 in YaST.' OSDir has some great screenshots of the fresh SUSE Linux in the SUSE Linux 10.1 Screenshot Tour."

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  1. Looks nice! by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is looking great!

    Nice simple clean theme unified across KDE & Gnome, the install, the boot screen, partition manager, etc. They all look the same & really pretty nice.

    Good job Suse!

    Oh - and this release includes XGL - if anyone wants to have a look at what it looks like - check out this video (I think it's Suse 10, but with lots of extra's included in 10.1) - man it looks nice!

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    1. Re:Looks nice! by moonbender · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While I have to agree with the AC to some degree -- most of the stuff is fairly underwhelming, I don't really need the windows to distort on moving, and I don't ever use alpha transparency in Windows XP -- what makes it all worth is that it apparently offers Exposé functionality. That not only looks cool, it's also extremely useful and something I wish I had in Windows. (BTW does anybody know of a good, modern tiling window manager for Win XP?)

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    2. Re:Looks nice! by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      what makes it all worth is that it apparently offers Exposé functionality.

      Yup - that is the most immediately useful functionality!

      But I disagree with you that Alpha transparency isn't useful - it's just that it's does not do anything useful in Windows.

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  2. That blasted image viewer by sl8r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    *WHEN* will osdir change their image viewer to something smarter? Loading all images again every time you select a new screenshot is kinda tedious, and probably adds to the strain on their server, what with all the times osdir's screenshot galleries get mentioned on /.

    Add a JS image swap script, keep the current linking as it is (to appease the usability poo-flingers), and save bandwidth!

    That said, Suse looks nice! :D

    1. Re:That blasted image viewer by k-sound · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If OSdir hosted all those screenshots just so we could all take a quick tour of some OS, yes that would be the way to go.

      If however you want to do the above and , while doing so, make some money from advertising, you would make damn sure every view of a screenshot generates $blah banner views.

    2. Re:That blasted image viewer by sfraggle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More fundamentally, when are they going to start providing _useful_ sets of screenshots for Operating Systems? It seems like every time a new OS comes out, osdir.com has a set of screenshots documenting every single step of the install process and every single menu of every single program that comes with the system. Come on, who actually needs to see this much detail? I'd much rather see a concise set of screenshots showing the interesting and unique features of the OS rather than this.

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  3. NetworkManager vs. dhcpcd by Optikschmoptik · · Score: 4, Informative
    I've been using NetworkManager for wireless on 10.0 for a few weeks. It's a huge improvement over dhcpcd (standard install on 10.0), at least for ndiswrapper-based card drivers. Before, I had to open kwifimanager to get a list of available networks, but I couldn't connect with kwifi. I had to go into YaST, change the network settings to whatever I found with kwifi, by hand, restart the Network with YaST, hope I typed everything in right, then maybe connect; I also sometimes had to do it from ifdown/ifup in the command line. It was enought to make me want to boot into windows.

    Now with NetworkManager, I can wardrive again! Thank God for NetworkManager!

  4. I've always found Suse to be a nice distro, but... by QCompson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    is yast still slower than a one-legged turtle on ambien?

  5. GNOME 2.12 !? by slashjunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It might have XGL eye candy, but it's running an outdated version of GNOME. Is SUSE still favouring their KDE heritage? It was Novell that sort of pushed GNOME upon SUSE when they bought them.

    1. Re:GNOME 2.12 !? by richardablitt · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think the features freeze was a month or two ago, and the main changes since then have been bugfixing. Gentoo only unmasked 2.14 a couple of weeks ago, so possibly Suse didn't think it was stable enough at the time either. It also only has kde 3.5.1 since 3.5.2 came out slightly too late.

    2. Re:GNOME 2.12 !? by barefootgenius · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just add Gnome in your installation sources. That way you get the updates as they come along.....Actually, having just looked at http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/suse/Suse/i386/supplem entary/GNOME/ it looks like they only have the updates for 10.0 at the moment so you might have to wait for a couple of days for the update_for_10.1 folder to come up. Have a look around though.
      Novell will be using Gnome as the default on SLES and Novell Linux Desktop but the KDE libraries will be be supplied on both as well. You choose which desktop to use on OpenSUSE.

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  6. Nice for laptop by mattcasters · · Score: 4, Informative

    Last time I wrote on Slashdot that Mandriva was installing fine but refused to even run on my laptop I got modded into oblivion.

    So it's with great joy I have to say that I've been working with SuSE 10.1RC3 for a couple of weeks now and it really IS very nice. I have a brand new laptop: Acer 5612, Dual Core, NVidia 3D card, etc.
    In hours I got everything working, *including* Xgl which is nice.

    Special thanks to the MPlayer guys who installed the video codecs on it at Linuxtag in Wiesbaden.

    Hey, I'm even starting to like Gnome. Who would have though it possible on SuSE? ;-)

    Cheers,

    Matt

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  7. Re:I've always wondered about SUSE, by HaydnH · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was originally a german translation of Slackware.

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  8. Re:I've always wondered about SUSE, by arkhan_jg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    SuSE was originally a packaged german-translation of slackware, but evolved into it's own commercial distro based in germany over time with a number of unique features such as YaST, the configuration and installation tool. I believe they also helped KDE development substantially, another german project. SuSE of course was bought out by Novell a couple of years ago (a US company), and is the basis for Novell's linux line these days. Since Novell also had ximian etc, SuSE stopped being a primarily KDE distro, and is now as much gnome as KDE. SUSE Linux is still a german based operation though I believe, with much of the same structure as when it was an independent company.

    Novell are doing something similar to fedora with openSUSE, i.e. an opensource-only version that's community driven, with commercial/boxed retail versions being spun off that includes licenced and closed-source components such as codecs and java.

    SuSE was my preferred distro for some time, but it was always a pain to update to newer app versions when they updated to a new version bump - the only way I found was to cough up for an upgrade DVD, or wait months for the free ftp version. Now they've got a truly open-source version (including a GPL YAST) with free updates as well as security patches, I've been looking at them again for boxes that don't need the configurability of gentoo.

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  9. Cumbersome Install by Hellboy0101 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The fact that the install covers 23 screenshots should tell you that they need to seriously streamline it. Xandros takes a half a dozen mouse clicks, and it's done. PCLinuxOS (which I think is the best home user desktop distro) takes about the same. PC-BSD is very simple as well.

    An install should consist of:
    1. Create users.
    2. Would like me to create the partitions for you? (offer an advanced feature as well)
    3. Are you going to use DHCP, or a static address?
    4. Would you like to review the software that is going to be installed?
    5. Click next to complete.

    That's it.

    Those who created the OS should know the apps that 95% of computer users use. A web browser (with plugins pre-installed), an e-mail reader, multimedia apps, games, OpenOffice, and of course, the hardware correctly probed and installed. The security settings should be reasonable, and the first set of updates should be applied automatically.

    Once the PC is up, take users to a Welcome screen, and ask if they would like to setup automatic updates, install additional software, and point them to an FAQ, or let them know how to get help.

    Suse does many of these things right, but bombarding the user with so many questions during the install makes an intimidating first impression that turns users off.

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    1. Re:Cumbersome Install by MrResistor · · Score: 3, Informative

      An install should consist of:
      1. Create users.
      2. Would like me to create the partitions for you? (offer an advanced feature as well)
      3. Are you going to use DHCP, or a static address?
      4. Would you like to review the software that is going to be installed?
      5. Click next to complete.


      That's pretty much how the Suse install has been since I first installed it in late 1999. I have a hard time believing those screenshots are an accurate representation of the process (and several of them a just loading screens, btw).

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  10. Re:Multilingual background by Morel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's the one, JDS 2, but I think the one I played with didn't have the black bars in the background, making it, as you say, more similar.

    JDS was quite a disappointment for me. Over a year ago, we were testing it alongside RedHat and Gentoo and we were amazed at the lack of polish of JDS. I mean, a company with the size and expertise of Sun could very easily devote some effort to make its Linux distro not look like some half-finished college project. I wasn't surprised when they killed the project.

    Cheers,

    Morel

  11. Re:I've always found Suse to be a nice distro, but by chadruva · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yast is notably faster now, at least the main window loads faster. The new package manager works faster too.

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