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Caffeine 'Dipstick' Test for Coffee

An anonymous reader writes "Researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis are developing a quick test for caffeine that works even with hot beverages and plan to adapt their technology to a simple ('dipstick') test that can be used to check for caffeine in a variety of drinks. The key to the caffeine test comes from llamas and camels since these camelids happen to be among the few creatures whose immune systems can produce antibodies that aren't destroyed at the high temperatures common to brewed beverages. The researchers reasoned that if they could create heat-resistant camelid antibodies that reacted to caffeine, they could potentially build a durable assay suitable for use almost anywhere."

110 comments

  1. Call me ignorant, but... by jo42 · · Score: 1

    ...just WTF is a "durable assay suitable for use almost anywhere"???

    1. Re:Call me ignorant, but... by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2, Informative

      durable: proof against wear and damage
      assay: test for drug existance
      suitable: useful and usable

      They were being redundant. They could have just said, "Durable assay" and left it at that.

    2. Re:Call me ignorant, but... by aborchers · · Score: 2, Funny

      OK, so what's "existance"?

      (JOKE! JOKE! Please don't flame me for spellchecking...)

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    3. Re:Call me ignorant, but... by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1

      Exi-stance is the stance you make just before you dart for the door trying to avoid an angry mob.

    4. Re:Call me ignorant, but... by PMuse · · Score: 1

      assay: test for existence/amount of some component

      Had they said only "durable assay", the thought would have been somewhat incomplete. Saying what it was suitable for was probably the right idea. Unfortunately, they said "suitable for use almost anywhere", which is not helpful. The point they probably should have made was "suitable for use by consumers" (who won't store it safely before use and will expect it to produce accurate results in beverages from 0C to 199C).

      Step 1: develop caffiene assay
      Step 2: make it durable and simple enough for direct-to-consumer sales
      Step 3: profit!

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    5. Re:Call me ignorant, but... by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

      "(who won't store it safely before use and will expect it to produce accurate results in beverages from 0C to 199C)."

      You're going to test the superheated steam for caffeine?

    6. Re:Call me ignorant, but... by 'nother+poster · · Score: 1

      No, my molten lithium, sulpher, and sodium.

    7. Re:Call me ignorant, but... by PMuse · · Score: 1

      Could be a typo. Could be one seriously modded espresso machine.

      Only my barista knows for sure.

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  2. I've already got one of these by guitaristx · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a wooden stick with the words "Not enough" imprinted on it.

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    1. Re:I've already got one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's a wooden stick with the words "Not enough" imprinted on it.

      That would be more worthwhile than having something that actually measured the caffeine levels. Outside of the "coolness" factor, who gives a shit? It's just some gimmickee worthless product to get people to spend more of their hard earned money on shit.

    2. Re:I've already got one of these by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny
      It's a wooden stick with the words "Not enough" imprinted on it.

      You use your penis to test coffee?

    3. Re:I've already got one of these by greginnj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except for the people who have medical reasons to avoid caffeine, and want to make absolutely sure that what was in the orange pot was decaf...

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    4. Re:I've already got one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Except for the people who have medical reasons to avoid caffeine

      Name one condition where caffeine has to be monitored aside from insomnia; in which case, ALL caffeine needs to be avoided.

    5. Re:I've already got one of these by Diashto · · Score: 1

      Heart-related conditions. Stimulants = bad for those on medications to keep heart rhytms in order.

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    6. Re:I've already got one of these by smbarbour · · Score: 1

      We have three coffee pots where I work:

      Black (Dark Brown): Regular
      Green: Flavored (usually Irish Creme)
      Orange: Sludge (double-dose in the filter)

      There is no decaf here. If you don't want caffeine, don't drink coffee. Even decaf has some in it.

    7. Re:I've already got one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Heart-related conditions. Stimulants = bad for those on medications to keep heart rhytms in order.

      If that were the case (I can't think of ANY Heart-related condition that would require monitoring of caffiene intake - off of the top of my head), the patient would be advised to avoid ALL caffeine - no exceptions.

      Again, no reason to purchase this "dip-stick". It's a waste of money.

      Please try again.

    8. Re:I've already got one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pregnancy. My wife missed the taste of coffee - so she drank decaf. But she wanted to make that what someone called "decaf" was really decaffienated out of concern for the baby. There are limits on caffiene intake that are recommended by doctors (how much is debated, from none to 300mg).

    9. Re:I've already got one of these by Ossifer · · Score: 1

      Caffeine never need be "monitored" as it is not essential to life, and there are plenty of food sources without caffeine. I.e. you don't ever need a certain minimum, and you can easily survive without any. Compare this to say, sugar and diabetics.

      In terms of medical conditions where one would want to limit or prevent intake, gastritis and ulcers are very sensitive to caffeine. Believe me, I speak from experience...

    10. Re:I've already got one of these by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1
      That reminds me of an old joke . . .

      There's this guy named Jack, and he has a girlfriend named Wendy. Jack loves Wendy a lot. To prove how much he loves her, he gets "Wendy" tattooed on his penis. When it's erect, it says her name, and when deflated, it reads "Wy". So, when she sees her name on his masculine member, she is overwhelmed.

      He pops the question, and she accepts. So Jack and Wendy decided to go to Jamaica for their honeymoon. Once there, they try out all the local culture,including a nude beach. They are having a great time, when Jack decides to get up from sunbathing and get something to drink at the beach bar.

      He walks over to the bar with his deflated love muscle, trying not to let his eyes wander and end up embarrassing himself. He orders a drink from the guy at the bar, who is also naked. He is surprised to note that the bartender also has "Wy" tattooed on his penis!

      Jack says to the guy, "Wow, what a coincidence. So, you have a girlfriend named 'Wendy' and her name is tattooed on your dick too?"

      The bartender looks slowly down at Jack's thing, back to his and starts laughing. Flashing a wide grin, he says, "No, mon. Mine says 'Welcome to Jamaica - land of sun and rum. Have a nice day.'

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    11. Re:I've already got one of these by soft_guy · · Score: 1

      Decafinated coffee makes as much sense as dehydrated water.

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  3. roast paradox by yagu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Great, I first had to look up assay:

    3 : analysis (as of an ore or drug) to determine the presence, absence, or quantity of one or more components
    (from Merriam Webster).

    Anyway, sometimes when I drink coffee I seem to have an entirely opposite reaction and am overcome with sleepiness. It only happens occasionally, and counterintuitively it always seems to be a very strong brew of some Starbucks blend. After doing a little research I discovered what you might expect to be a stronger (caffeine-wise) coffee is actually the weakest.

    Turns out the darker the roast, the longer the beans have to be roasted to become that dark. And the longer the beans are roasted, the more caffeine is destroyed in the process. So, while a roast may be described as bold, but it doesn't necessarily mean it has extra kick. I prefer the bold roast taste, but have taken to preparing much lighter roasts for my morning kick-start.

    Interestingly enough, this could also explain why I am positively higher than a kite when I drink someones A&P Maxwell House Drip grind coffee. It is a bland light looking roast/blend, but it can really have a kick.

    Here's one page that answers some questions about caffeine.

    1. Re:roast paradox by Bob-o-Matic! · · Score: 1

      Alton Brown did a show about coffee, and what he had to say about caffiene content vs intensity of roast agrees with you. Also, I, too often feel drowsy from a cup of dark roast coffee.

      Fortunately Starbucks on campus had a somewhat lighter than normal "Papua New Guinea" variety available for the last 2 weeks of the spring term. This coffee was both a refreshing beverage and high test fuel. I hope it is available all summer, as the Sumatra is tasty but makes me a bit sleepy.

    2. Re:roast paradox by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

      Anyway, sometimes when I drink coffee I seem to have an entirely opposite reaction and am overcome with sleepiness.

      Lay off the Irish coffees there, Sparky.

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    3. Re:roast paradox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While it may not be the case here, it is possible to become drowsy from too much caffeine. This is caused by a lack of neurotransmitters due to overstimulation. Something to bear in mind if you intend to use caffeine to keep you awake for a very long time.

    4. Re:roast paradox by mrjb · · Score: 1

      It's not *only* the darkness of the roast, but also the serving size. After all, a proper dark roast espresso is generally served in a *much* smaller cup than a good mug of a lighter roasted filter brew.

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    5. Re:roast paradox by superbondbond · · Score: 2, Interesting
      As a roaster (hobbyist) I find the best of both worlds can be achieved by working with a "Black and Tan" roast of sorts.

      Caffeine aside, you'll find that the lighter roasts have all kinds of flavor profiles (floral, citrus) that combine very well with those of a darker roast (chocolate, nutty*, "earthy").

      I've always enjoyed coffee, but a whole world was revealed when I started raosting it myself. It makes the best coffeehouse brew taste like sludge.

      * please, no Austin Powers jokes.

    6. Re:roast paradox by yukonbob · · Score: 1

      Turns out the darker the roast, the longer the beans have to be roasted to become that dark. And the longer the beans are roasted, the more caffeine is destroyed

      Not to mention that diff't coffee has diff't amounts of caffeine -- regional varieties are not all the same (which is why colombian coffee is diff't than mexican coffee, for example), and there are two main families of coffee -- arabica (which people are trained to think is 'the best' coffee), and robusta --- robusta is generally considered not as good tasting, but *does* generally have more caffeine than arabica beans, and also (in espresso-method preparation) gives good crema... in Italy traditional blends (for espresso) include robusta beans (/me thinks he remembers reading up to 40%)... some American advocates of robusta beans in a blend say between 10-20% of the beans can be robusta and yield a good espresso blend.

      -yb

    7. Re:roast paradox by mediocubano · · Score: 1

      There is also a big difference in caffeine levels between Arabica and Robusto beans. Robusto is the cheaper bean, but more bitter, and the big companies of course went for cost reductions, thus a pretty good bet that your Maxwell House is Robusto. (They'd be making a big deal out of Arabica on the label if they used it.)

      Starbucks, going the quality route, brings the Arabica bean to the masses.

      So drink up!

    8. Re:roast paradox by drooling-dog · · Score: 1
      Turns out the darker the roast, the longer the beans have to be roasted to become that dark. And the longer the beans are roasted, the more caffeine is destroyed in the process.

      This is a true revelation. So I went running to my Merck Index, and read this about Caffeine:

      Hexagonal prisms by sublimation, m.p. 238 C. Sublimes at 178 C.

      I'm not sure at what temperature coffee is typically roasted at, but I'll bet it's not much less than than 178 C. If so, much of the caffeine is just wafting away...

    9. Re:roast paradox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's too bad that Starbuck's Coffee tastes... like shit. Seriously, get a cup of coffee from them sometime. I'm not saying a mocha latte or anything... just a cup of coffee. It is close to undrinkable. And it's not just too strong... there was a time in my life when I'd go for the "switchblade" at my local coffee house. Four shots of esspresso topped off with their house blend in a pint glass. I like strong coffee, but Starbucks is simply ass.

    10. Re:roast paradox by JanneM · · Score: 1

      Easy solution: buy caffeine pills in bulk, crush in a mortar and keep in a bowl next to the sugar. Drink whatever you want and season to taste.

      In fact, just mix it in with the sugar and some MSG, and you have flavour, energy and hyperactivity all in one convenient serving!

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    11. Re:roast paradox by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      Interestingly enough, this could also explain why I am positively higher than a kite when I drink someones A&P Maxwell House Drip grind coffee. It is a bland light looking roast/blend, but it can really have a kick.


      What's far more likely is that the el-cheapo Maxwell House uses robusta beans and Starbucks uses arabica beans. Rubusta beans have about twice as much caffeine in them as arabica beans.

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    12. Re:roast paradox by Crizp · · Score: 1

      A chain shop with a high turnover of kid clerks can never be as good as your local corner coffeeshop / café, the barista of which projecting and demonstrating a love for coffee. I worked at a place like that during the Coffee Shop Craze here, luckily there's not a Starbucks within sixty miles.

      My only Starbucks experience is from various TV reports about the company - and I've never seen a single clerk steam the milk correctly. It takes some practice learning the sound and feel.

    13. Re:roast paradox by anagama · · Score: 1

      So theoretically, if one wished for a real kick in the pants, breathing roasting coffee vapors would do wonders. Hmmmm .... the coffee bong. (I need to run off and start the patent paperwork now ...)

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    14. Re:roast paradox by bsane · · Score: 1

      It's too bad that Starbuck's Coffee tastes... like shit.

      Its because Starbucks isn't a coffee company, they're a milk company.

      Nobody goes to Starbucks for coffee they go for those milk concoctions with some coffee on top. Its probably why their coffee sucks- they burn the shit out of it so when its diluted 10:1 with milk you can still taste it.

  4. Great Idea But They've Got It Backwards by Quirk · · Score: 1

    We need a dipstick that will tell us the caffeine is up to snuff. I don't want to be short changed on my caffeine and would be happy to see something akin to a thermometer poping it's cap, letting me know my fix is just a wicked as I need it to be.

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  5. AUGH! *twitch* by fragmentate · · Score: 5, Funny
    I already have a test...

    If after 15 cups of a beverage (non-alcoholic) in one hour I don't have the shakes, there's not enough caffeine.

    Cost: $0
    Research time: 1 hour.
    Damage to Camels and Llamas: less than .02%

    1. Re:AUGH! *twitch* by fusto99 · · Score: 0

      You mean caffeine can still make you shake? Those were the days...

    2. Re:AUGH! *twitch* by Corbets · · Score: 1
      Cost: $0


      Zero bucks for 15 cups of coffee??? Man, you've got to tell me where you're getting your coffee! E-mail me, otherwise that place will get seriously slashdotted!!!!

      ;-)

    3. Re:AUGH! *twitch* by fragmentate · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it costed someone, somewhere some coin... it just wasn't me.

  6. easier test by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've got an easier one. The black handle means 'caffeine.' The orange handle means 'no caffeine.'

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    1. Re:easier test by NevarMore · · Score: 1

      Unless the gas station attendant is bored and looking for some fun.

      If you're careful you can ease the dosages up so the heavily caffinated come off of it and the non-caffinated start to need it.

    2. Re:easier test by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      It's fairly safe to assume that if you're buying coffee at a gas station you're buying it purely for the caffeine.

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    3. Re:easier test by menace3society · · Score: 1

      Decaffeinated doesn't mean "no caffeine"; it just means "less caffeine". That's why it's called "Decaffeinated" instead of "Caffeine Free". The process for removing the caffeine gets out most of it, but not quite all. So if you're quitting America's (second?) most popular addictive stimulant imported from Colombia, don't look for decaf, look for caffeine free.

    4. Re:easier test by AgentPaper · · Score: 1
      That's always a fun prank to play on your fellow office drones. Over a period of a few weeks, slowly taper the blends in all the pots so they all contain decaf. Once everyone has been sufficiently weaned off the caffeine, abruptly switch back to the fully leaded stuff. Sit back and watch the fireworks.

      I did this to myself as an experiment some years back - completely gave up caffeine for Lent (no coffee, tea, soft drinks, chocolate, Excedrin, etc), and then on Easter Sunday I went to the local coffee shop and had my usual, pre-experiment morning beverage - a dry quad-shot cappuccino.

      The results were interesting, to say the least.

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  7. Ugh by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 4, Funny

    Friend: "Hey, that coffee smells good. What kind is it?"

    Me: (taking a deep breath) Now? Camel-flavored.

  8. Oddly enough.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've found that most people who are that worried about the amount of caffeine in their coffee really are dipsticks.

    1. Re:Oddly enough.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I appreciate the humor, but it's not as funny for some people with heart conditions who cannot tolerate caffeine, yet they are sometimes served regular coffee.

  9. So let me get this straight... by idontgno · · Score: 4, Funny
    You dip a camel... or llama... in your coffee and somehow that tells you (A) whether it's hot, and (b) whether it's caffeinated?

    And then you drink the coffee? Do you at least take the camel or llama or alpaca or whatever out of the coffee first?

    I wonder which llamas work best. Red, Mexican Whooping, or Guacanos?

    Oh, yeah, obviously, you use a "2-L" llama. I don't think most Tibetians would appreciate you using a "1-L" lama.

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    1. Re:So let me get this straight... by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      But only in New York can you get a good "3-L" lama.
      I deserve to be shot for saying that.

    2. Re:So let me get this straight... by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 1

      You dip a camel... or llama... in your coffee and somehow that tells you (A) whether it's hot, and (b) whether it's caffeinated?

      I can't understand a word you're saying. Hold on while I stick this fish in my ear.

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    3. Re:So let me get this straight... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      I wonder if any old dromedary would work.

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    4. Re:So let me get this straight... by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      Oh, yeah, obviously, you use a "2-L" llama. I don't think most Tibetians would appreciate you using a "1-L" lama.

      Heck, I'm not even Tibetan, but if you try and dip the Dalai Lama (or any other 1-L Lama) into hot coffee, you're gonna get some resistance from a lot of people. ;-)

      I mean, that's just rude!

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    5. Re:So let me get this straight... by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

      You're safe:

      The one-l lama,
      He's a priest.
      The two-l llama,
      He's a beast.
      And I will bet
      A silk pajama
      There isn't any
      Three-l lllama.*

              -- Ogden Nash

          *The author's attention has been called to a type of conflagration known
          as a three-alarmer. Pooh.

    6. Re:So let me get this straight... by Mr.+Firewall · · Score: 1

      Wait! No, I think you dip a camel TOE into the coffee.

      Dunno how that would determine caffeine content, but it should at least make the coffee really tasty....

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    7. Re:So let me get this straight... by Smurf · · Score: 1
      You dip a camel... or llama... in your coffee and somehow that tells you (A) whether it's hot...

      Dude, if you find any camelid hot you've got worse problems than your caffeine addiction!
    8. Re:So let me get this straight... by Ruzty · · Score: 1

      You can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish.

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    9. Re:So let me get this straight... by anagama · · Score: 1

      Given the implications of your comment, I hope you have boned up on the reasons why coffee is better than women.

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  10. Good thing to know... by Billosaur · · Score: 4, Funny
    The key to the caffeine test comes from llamas and camels since these camelids happen to be among the few creatures whose immune systems can produce antibodies that aren't destroyed at the high temperatures common to brewed beverages.

    ...for Perl programmers. We trust anything that can pass the llama or camel test.

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  11. Hmm by Is0m0rph · · Score: 3, Funny

    I need a stick that will give me caffeine and alcohol percentages so I can get that half and half mix of Redbull/Monster and vodka just right.

    1. Re:Hmm by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I believe they already have a device for getting your mix right, it's called either a graduated cylinder or a measuring cup depending on whether you buy it at the chem shop or at the local grocer.

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    2. Re:Hmm by Is0m0rph · · Score: 1

      Hehe I don't want to measure with a graduated cylinder I need a high tech dipstick! How old school...

    3. Re:Hmm by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      The "high-tech" device you're looking for is a hydrometer. Any brewing supply company will sell you one -- even a "special high-tech" one with alcohol percentage graduated on it.

  12. Urine tests by Seoulstriker · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should make these sticks suitable for use in a way similar to pregnancy tests: pee on the stick to see the concentration of caffeine in your system.

    Blue means not enough
    Pink means just right
    Black means you're peeing coffee.
    Brown means you put it near the wrong orifice.

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    1. Re:Urine tests by iNetRunner · · Score: 1
      Brown means you put it near the wrong orifice.
      So, that basically meens you have the shakes from too much coffee, and you can kiss coding goodbye for awhile.
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  13. high-temperature animals = high-temp enzymes by smellsofbikes · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I think it's really cool that they said "we want high-temperature biologicals: where can we get them?" and went and found them in temperature-resistant animals. It's obvious, in hindsight, but it's a great idea.

    When Kary Mullis invented the polymerase chain reaction for amplifying DNA to detectable levels -- which is more or less responsible for the viability of genetic engineering as a discipline -- the original system was extremely expensive because it used enzymes that got cooked in the high-temperature portion of the cycle. So they went to Yellowstone and found similar enzymes from creatures that lived in geyser pools, which dealt very well with those high temperatures, and that made PCR a viable research tool. So the idea was already there, but -- camels. Dude. I don't think I would ever have made that particular leap.

    By the way, the reason they didn't just go back to Yellowstone is because while mammals and birds produce lots of antibodies, other animals either don't at all or don't in a manner that's well understood. (Or at least that's what they were teaching when I took immunochemistry.) Plants and bacteria don't produce them at all. Since an antibody is both incredibly specific and incredibly avid for a given chemical, you can stick their butts to a substrate and their front ends will stick out just waiting to attach to their chosen molecule -- much like a leech, if you've ever seen how they work when they're in water.

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  14. Sensitive by whitehatlurker · · Score: 1
    TFA: those who are highly sensitive to caffeine can feel its stimulant effects for as long as 20 hours

    Here I am on my second pint of Timmy's(*) in two hours, longing to be a sensitive type.

    (* Coffee)

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    1. Re:Sensitive by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

      My girlfriend's sensitive to coffee. It's not a state you want to be in. Yes, a cup of coffee would send her high for days. It'd also make her faint, give her headaches, make her veins stand out, etc. etc.

      Be thankful for small mercies!

    2. Re:Sensitive by whitehatlurker · · Score: 1
      I'm sorry for her condition. It has to be difficult, considering the foods that caffeine is part of - most drinks, chocolate ...

      Thanks for the note.

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  15. Sounds like a car speedometer by kendoka · · Score: 1

    I mean, it's nice to know but I tend to go by the adjust until satisfied method. I mean, would you let a good cup of coffee go to waste just cause it only has half the caffeine? Of course not! You drink it and go get another! =)

    1. Re:Sounds like a car speedometer by Kelson · · Score: 1

      I think this would be more useful for people who order decaf and want to make sure the waiter/clerk/whoever hasn't been a dipstick and given them regular (or some mix of regular and decaf) instead.

      I know someone who has no trouble drinking regular coffee in the morning, but just one cup after dinner means the difference between sleeping well and tossing and turning all night.

  16. New ending for the Llama song by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now it can go Llama Llama Dunk...

  17. Re:Yeah baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Loser

  18. Combo Stick by FrankDrebin · · Score: 1

    Jane: Doctor, what does the test say? Am I pregnant?
    Doctor: No, Jane, you're not pregnant. But according to this stick you should switch to decaf.

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  19. You'd be surprised... by NevarMore · · Score: 1

    Again a lot of it depends on how much the employees like the job (directly tied to the ratio of nice friendly customers to jerks), but the coffee at the Speedway where I worked was pretty good. Not quite a fancy candy-coffee like the local coffee houses, but not a bad cuppa.

    One of the other stores where I subbed in occasion (ie lotta jerks who got switched to decaf), the coffee never tasted quite right because the machines weren't cleaned as often as they should have been nor were the grinders and percolators checked to see if they were measuring the product right.

  20. Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Java+Ape · · Score: 3, Interesting
    When I was a grad student in Biogeochemistry some years ago, many of the students were serious caffeine junkies. Since Think-geek wasn't around to supply everything from bubble-gum to body-wash with a cafeine kick-start built in, they found another solution.

    Next to the coffee pots were all the usual additives, and nice little sugar bowl containing a mixture of pure caffeine and powdered sugar, labled "Caffeine: 100mg/tsp". The average cup of joe contains about 100mg naturally, so a couple of teaspoons of this sweetener would make expresso look like diet cola!

    The truly frightening thing was watching some students add four or five teaspoons to their double-brewed black death fluid in the mornings.

    1. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's insane. Make one mistake "cutting" the caffeine, and you have a bunch of dead coffee-drinkers on your hands...

    2. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Is0m0rph · · Score: 1

      I've overdosed on caffeine before. Not a pleasant experience.

    3. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      "Biogeochemistry"? You just made that up.

      When I was a grad student in Physioarchaeanthropology we would create tradition Egyptian coffee brews for kicks.

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    4. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Java+Ape · · Score: 1

      LOL, it sure sounds like a made up science, but it's not! Google it, you'll find it's a very active field of inquiry. Of course, I wanted to get an additional degree in Astrophysics, just so I could claim to be a Biogeoastrophysiochemist, but my wife wouldn't go for it!

    5. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Java+Ape · · Score: 1
      You'll notice I talked about the other students using it. I always wondered how they insured that the caffeine was evenly distributed in the powdered sugar. I'd have felt more comfortable with a liquid solution, but they apparently didn't want to dilute their carefully-concentrated sludge with anything like water. On the other hand, since they were intentionally frying their circuits with five or six hundred milligrams at a pop, they probably wouldn't have cared if the bowl was filled with reagent-grade caffeine.

      For the record, I don't dring coffee, so I did a caffeine analysis on every soda in the vending machine. I found Diet Mountain Dew to be the clear winner, so I just drank that!

    6. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      Biogeoastrophysiochemist

      My wife is a Biogeoastrophysiochemistectarianologist. She observes biogeoastrophysiochemistectarian meetings on Sundays. They meet nearby. Her dissertation covers the effects of caffeine on biogeoastrophysiochemistectarian speculations regarding climatological changes and implications on Saturn's moons. Caffeine intake is strongly correlated with wild-ass guesses and hand-waving.

      IT'S A FACT!

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    7. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1
      Speaking as someone who has tried this, I say it is not practical.

      I drink a lot of coffee, and during finals I'd have to eat caffeine pills and ephedrine (and still sleep through half my final)

      I tried to make things easier by dissolving the contents of a 325mg gelcap of caffeine in a pot of coffee. That little pill ruined my whole pot of coffee. Completely unspeakably bitter nasty chemical nausea-inducing nightmare, with only a 30% caffeine boost. I was poor and pressed for time so I drank it anyway.

      Now, I'd recommend taking the damn pills. Way less barfy.

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    8. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

      Did you consider just going all out and taking amphetamine? I'm guessing that at those doses of caffeine, it'd be far better for you, physiologically. Probably less addictive, too.

    9. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too (though the caffeine was mixed with ephedrine). Let me describe the experience for other people reading this. I became terribly, utterly nauseated and spent the night next to the toilet. Even small movements of my body made the nausea worse. Also, it felt like ants were crawling inside my skull.

    10. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      I'd recommend studying through the semester instead of trying to cram a month's worth of studying into one evening. You get more sleep, and you're more apt to actually remember that information that's probably somehow relevant to your degree.

      But sure, I guess throwing money away on stimulants works, too. Kinda.

    11. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      English is not German, and you can't just cram all of your words together to make one uberword simply because you think it'd look cool. So cut it out, buddy. :)

    12. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by MarkRose · · Score: 1

      Where did they get the caffeine in such a form? The only way I know of getting it is in little bitter pills.

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    13. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I realize this discussion is over, but just wanted to maybe relieve you a bit. You probably didn't OD because the LD50 (lethal dose in 50% of a control group) for caffeine is unbelievably high. I think something like 900+ cups of coffee's worth within a span of only a few hours. In fact, you are more likely to overdose on water swallowing all those pills than you are to OD on caffeine or drinking all that java than for the caffeine to do you in. Not to say its impossible, but fortunately caffeine is an extremely safe drug so an OD is very unlikely. Usually they (not clear who "they" are) divide overdose symptoms into two categories: real overdoses, and just too much caffeine. The latter is elevated heart rate, nausea, vomiting, and tremors, and that's about it. I've even done it myself on accident. I would guess you took caffeine pills, which sometimes have an additive (probably just castor oil or something similar that isn't an "active" ingredient) to prevent accidental overdose. The additive itself causes nausea and vomiting, which is safer than a heart attack. If you're vomiting from caffeine, I'd guess this is the actual culprit (how dare you blame caffeine!). Definitely no fun, but fortunately not as bad as the real thing. Check out this article and you'll see you probably weren't having a real overdose, because real caffeine overdose has some pretty nasty symptoms.

      Disclaimer: I don't know the circumstances. If you did OD on caffeine, and were admitted to a hospital, well, then you're right. That's most certianly not pleasant.

    14. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Update: "they" happen to be NIH again. The false overdose is simply caffeine sensitivity - you have negative effects that aren't overdose, and sensitivity level varies by person. Info on "regular" intake of caffeine (including a sensitivity reaction) is here.

    15. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Java+Ape · · Score: 1
      One advantage of working in University chem labs, particularly on the biochem end of things is the ready availability of lots of reagent-grade bioactive compounds. Purified caffeine is readily available from chemical suppliers, and not terribly expensive. Caffeine is quite bitter, but most over-the-counter pills have some very nasty-tasting addatives to discourage just this sort of dumb behavior. One cavaet about reagent-grade caffeine: I haven't looked at the MSDS in some time, but I seem to recall that the LD50 drops dramatically for inhalation doses. Don't snort the stuff, and wear a respirator when working with it.

      As an aside, I often wondered why junkies didn't inject purified neurotransmitters, until I had to buy some of them for my reserch. For a few thousand bucks you get a freeze-dried speck in a glass ampule. In contrast, caffiene was like fifty dollars for a several hundred grams.

    16. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1
      There was a lot of stupid behaviour, after all it's college.

      In my case, I had to work full time to pay for school, so stimulants were more justifiable. At least the college of engineering wasn't full of loud partiers.

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    17. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by MarkRose · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info!

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    18. Re:Sugar, Cream, Extra Caffeine? by Ihlosi · · Score: 1
      As an aside, I often wondered why junkies didn't inject purified neurotransmitters,



      Simple: Many of them cannot cross the blood-brain barrier. The few-thousand-buck ampoule would be essentially wasted.

  21. How about a Caffeine coated dipstick? by macz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Eliminate the coffee, and its subsequent need to be tested, altogether?

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    1. Re:How about a Caffeine coated dipstick? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      some woman like whipped cream on the ol' dipstick, but that caffeine idea is intriguing

  22. Re: 1980s style coffee commercial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Continuing on the parent's idea of making the stick turn pink if you have the right amount of caffeine, I can't help imagining the following 1980s coffee commercial inspired scenario:

    Announcer: We secretly replaced this woman's home pregnancy test with a caffeination dip stick. Let's watch as she reads the results....

    Woman: [ faints ]

    Announcer: There you have it, folks.

  23. not just for drinks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    it is fairly common in the evironmental remediation industry to test for caffeine in soil samples and ground water, as a way to determine location of sewer leakage.

    you see, caffeine goes right through the body and leaves as caffeine. In most of the world, there are no natural caffeine sources. So, if you detect it, there is a good chance it came from that possible faulty sewer line.

    usually these tests are done in a lab, but quick, on-site tests via something like this could provide an easy 1st pass diagnosis.

    cue the jokes, but this just goes to show that there could well be other uses of this product.

    1. Re:not just for drinks... by kazzaerexys · · Score: 1

      I just wanted to say thank you for providing one of the very few non-idiotic comments in this thread, and the only one to suggest that somebody actually bothered to give a little bit of thought to the original post.

      Kudos to you.

  24. Diabetics Rejoice by Blinocac200sx · · Score: 0

    This is good news for diabetics. Hope they get it working.

  25. Your test will degrade by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1

    You'll need to add a cup for every year you drink lots of coffee. I can drink 15 cups and still be tired now, after 20 years of hard-core stimulant abuse.

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  26. Oh okay that is, how do I get off this planet? by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
    I thought the limit was when I saw a warning on a peanut butter that it may contain nuts. Now this. Check coffee for caffeine. Right. It is coffee. What do you think is going to be in it?

    Decaf? That stuff still around?

    If you don't want caffeine drink WATER! Whats next. A test that tells you chocolate has calories. Nicotine detector for cigarets?

    I know their is intelligent live out there because it doesn't visit us.

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    1. Re:Oh okay that is, how do I get off this planet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Peanuts aren't nuts and it's possible to be allergic to one but not the other
      2) Some people like the taste of coffee but for whatever reason they don't want the caffeine
      3) You aren't funny

  27. You wanna put a camel's dipstick in my what? by blamanj · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pervert.

  28. Re:Yeah baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n3g

  29. additives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what else was in that gelcap besides the 325mg of caffine, eh? cornstarch, at least, probably stabilizers and carnuba wax...

    1. Re:additives by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1
      what else was in that gelcap besides the 325mg of caffine, eh? cornstarch, at least, probably stabilizers and carnuba wax...

      Well, there was 325mg of caffeine, anhydrous. You're thinking of tablets, which would have binding agents etc.

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  30. I can save them a TON of research, right now. by merc · · Score: 1

    There's definately caffeine in coffee.

    (still no cure for cancer)

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