Chinese Scientist Admits To Stealing Chip Research
An anonymous reader writes "A prominent Chinese scientist, one of the founders of the chip manufacturing industry in the country, has admitted to stealing his research." From the article: "Chen Jin, a dean of Shanghai's prestigious Jiaotong University and the leader of a government-funded high-tech research project, was dismissed from his university posts this week and stripped of other government titles and perks. The government also said that Chen had been permanently banned from taking part in any government-funded science projects. In a statement Friday, Jiaotong University--one of the nation's elite schools--said, 'Chen Jin has breached the trust of being a scientist and educator. His behavior is despicable.'"
What are the chances that this guy just did something against the Chinese Government's wishes, and so they faked this whole scandal. I mean, TFA makes it seem like the Government is in this a lot more than the blurb makes it seem so.
Meh, maybe I'm just too paranoid. Anyone know more about this? Is that a possibility?
You mean the technology that the american corporations and their contractors in the chinese free trade zones brought with them?
The Chinese have no concept of copyright and patent restrictions like Americans do. This was probably a token sacrifice to appease the whiny US companies who just want to sit on their butts and collect royalties from the billions of masses. I don't know what their concept of plagiarism is, but ironically enforcing copyrights and patents encourages plagiarism - because you just can't be honest about and say "yeah, I did copy it".
Truthfully, I'm glad they don't respect copyrights and patents. It's one of the few freedoms that actually keep China from flying off the deep end. I could't even imagine RIAA types backed by authoritarian Chinese power.
About 4 years ago now Libya renounced their backing of terrorism in the 80s (and 90s) and said they'd like to return to the world community. And since it was Ghadafi in charge then and now, he had no weaseling to do. He just said he was wrong.
It does happen. It takes a lot of humility to do it, which is why we're unlikely to see the US admit wrongdoing soon. On anything like, say, the Cuba embargo.
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Not a big surprise for a country that doesn't respect intellectual property.
The People's Republic of China respects intellectual property more than many nations, though admittedly it is not as paranoid about it as the USA. The PRC is a member of WIPO, and has strict IP laws. Nor is there any discrimination against foreign IP: Chinese courts regularly rule in favour of US companies whose copyrights and patents are being infringed on by Chinese companies.
You may be thinking of Taiwan.
Not a big surprise for a country that doesn't respect intellectual property.
And in 50 years, they'll be at the top of the world in research, industry, and science because they didn't.
At least we'll have our lawyers.
"I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
-Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
And, what about the US? V-2 rockets. German adaptation of the Dutch schnorkel? US seizure of German submarines because Germany lost the war. There's a LOT of shit (technology) THIS country acquired merely through the advantage of having "won" the war. Moreover, the US is NOT innocent of industrial espionage.
Did you know that decades ago many high-level businessmen who travelled over seas were debriefed byteh CIA sand other US-government agencies ast to what tech they gleaned in Japan, Europe and other places?
Doesn't matter that it wasn't patented; IP was taken from Germany, Japan, and other countries, even from UK and other allies. The US is NOT so pristine and squeaky clean as many would like to posit.
No country/nation/power/peoples left behind...
Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
The problem of course is the potential legal/financial liability that goes with that, which is what this new law would eliminate. I read that there's a lot of interest in such a law in many parts of the US as well. Could we be entering a time when governments start to be a bit more honest about their screw ups?
The term "Intellectual Property" is a cudgel designed to confuse those who do not understand aspects of law that deal with copyrights, patents, trademarks, and trade secrets. All four of these areas arose out of different situations, deal with different issues, and have nothing to do with "property".
Forgetting for a moment that the article summary is wrong, IP "borrowing"/"theft" is as old as forever. Ogg started it when he hid behind a bush and watched how Ugg broke flint to make sharp edges. The Europeans stole mathematical, boat building and navigation technology from the Chinese 600+ years ago and from the Indians at least that long ago. Pythagoras (I can't be arsed checking the spelling) put his name on work that he got from others.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
It's pointless. It didn't drive Castro out. He'll die of old age first. It didn't change Cuba. And the major reason for it in the beginning was that Castro nationalized the assets of US compaines. This drove Cuba to the Soviets. He wasn't really a Communist, but after we turned our back on him, he had no choice, he had to survive, and the Soviets would drop money on him merely because he would be the only Communist country in the Western Hemisphere and only 60 miles from the US no less!
Now the major reason is that the anti-Castro Cuban exiles are a major swing party in a state that is important in the electoral college (and thus Presidential election process). So the parties in power subjagate the actual interests of the country to the votes of a small contingent in one area of one state.
Furthermore, and most importantly, if we don't reconcile with Castro before he dies, it will be difficult for Castro's replacement to make up with the US without being branded as going against "the revolution". So, if we wait out Castro, then try to reconcile, it doesn't go well. If we reconciled now, it'd be much smoother going.
Not that I love Castro. He executed people for the same things that Bautista had jailed Castro for (and released him early after treating him well). He ran his country into the ground trying to prove political points and partly out of spite. I do understand what drove him to do what he did, the same as the American Fruit Company (Chiquita) owning 80% of the land in Honduras.
But I do believe this, we are not solving the Castro problem with the current system, and we might be able to solve it if we changed. But we're too pigheaded to do so. We should apply the principles of engagement to Cuba as we do with China.
On the Libya front, Ghadafi, the asshole, showed himself the bigger man by capitulating. And no credit to Bush, Ghadafi had been kissing the US ass for years trying to get back on our good side. Bush was wise to accept and make maximum political hay from it, but he didn't have anything to do with it.
Too many poor decisions are made for the sake of "consistency". Sometimes you just have to say "the situation has change, the correct course is different now".
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