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Sony Fakes Blu-Ray Demo?

twasserman writes "Lance Ulanoff of PC Magazine reported on Sony's recent event showing the new VAIO AR desktop with a Blu-Ray drive, observing that Sony faked the high-def demo by using a plain old DVD+R of House of Flying Daggers. Even before the rootkit fiasco, Sony has seemed increasingly desperate, but the general consensus seems to be that Sony is looking pretty sad and pathetic." Update 03:07 GMT by SM: Many users are calling shenanigans on this one since there were two laptops side by side, one with the Blu-Ray demo and another for comparison. Independent confirmation or negation has yet to surface, so take with the requisite grain of salt required when reading any news.

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  1. It's probably NOT fake... by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It sounds like Lance Ulanoff from PC Magazine is jumping the gun. According to notebookreview.com:
    The premium model comes bundled with one of the first Blu-ray Disc (BD) movies, House of Flying Daggers, which Sony showed side-by-side tonight, along with the DVD version. Contrary to what some have said, the difference in quality is instantly noticeable
    It sounds like Ulanoff was in too much of a rush for a scoop and didn't realize this when he ejected what was very likely the comparison DVD. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good Sony bashing, though.

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    1. Re:It's probably NOT fake... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In other words, Slashdot posted a faked story without checking the facts? Nothing new, but there should definitely be a warning on this site, "do not trust what you read here, we don't check our facts". BTW, I didn't check my facts, but I'm not a popular website.

    2. Re:It's probably NOT fake... by G-funk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree the demo probably wasn't a complete phony like the original blog insists, but why a burned copy? Could it be they used a re-compressed (via dvdshrink etc) dvd to make the blu-ray content look better than it is?

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    3. Re:It's probably NOT fake... by Mr_Escher · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The reason I'd do it that way is so I could just cut, say, a 20 minute segment without the usual menus and so forth making it easier to sync the 2 machines side by side for comparison.

    4. Re:It's probably NOT fake... by idlemachine · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If you don't want bluray, just don't buy it. If you don't want a PS3, ditto.

      Jesus wept. Every new tech launch. Every new console gen. Like clockwork. Same old bitching about price points, same old conspiracies about fraudulant demos, same old "this company isn't supporting the tech I want/like/own, so they're going to fail" rhetoric.

      Doesn't anyone else getting really fucking tired of this, or am I missing the point, is this what we do now?

  2. Too many holes... by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, wait a second. We've got some guy on some site that has pictures of a DVD in a drive, and this is somehow proof that Sony faked the whole thing? Aren't there just a few holes here?

    1) Sony has the tech, why on earth would they resort to a DVD?
    2) Why would they use a DVD+R with no label when they distribute the actual DVDs?
    3) Why would Sony use a Verbatim DVD+R?
    4) How do we know that machine wasn't supposed to be running a DVD to compare to a computer next to it running Blu-Ray. (Quite coincidentally, there are no pictures of the disc from that machine.)
    5) How do we know the picture wasn't staged by someone anti-Sony?
    6) Howcome nobody else is reporting on this?

    I know Sony's no saint, but this just doesn't make any sense at all.

    1. Re:Too many holes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At CES, I know for a fact that the demos for Blu-ray were run off of hard drives, not off of blu-ray media. it was all smoke and mirrors. my company created content for one of the blu-ray demos, and it never showed on a real blu-ray player.

      But, I have to ask -- this is a surprise? this is something to be outraged at?

      Has the author never attended a trade show like NAB or CES? It's pretty much standard operating procedure for these shows to show off stuff that isn't yet finished - half the high end digital cinema cameras that are shown at NAB are wooden models, for crying out loud!

      If it's not shipping, it doesn't exist yet, as far as I'm concerned.

  3. Gotta love journalists by billcopc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dumbass journalist alert!!!

    Repeat after me: DVD is not HD.

    Would Sony use a burnt DVD for display ? Possible (hey, there's idiot students everywhere), but unlikely. Would Sony use a regular DVD for comparison versus Blu-Ray ? Certainly!

    It's not like they have to fake it, they have the drive. They probably have demo content too. I'm pretty sure Blu-Ray video is encoded at a much higher resolution than boring old 720x480 Mpeg-2 DVD. Now maybe if our overzealous reporter had taken a moment to actually examine the demo and see the difference, maybe even chat with the Sony media monkey, perhaps he would have come up with a more valid article. Or maybe he did all that, but decided the notoriety of his lies would be a bigger hit.

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  4. More than just a laser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, I work on Blu-Ray players(not for Sony), take that for what you will.

    Aside from the article submitter trolling, I would like to state that Blu-Ray is more than just a laser. It's an entire format complete with a software virtual machine.

    When we test content it comes on a DVD-R, we're testing layouts of files, VM access, decoding, video quality etc.

    Now I don't know what was at the booth, but it is certainly possible that they were showing off their software Blu-Ray player with the content burned onto a DVD.

  5. This topic is complete troll bait. by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, I don't know why our poster thinks engaget is the "general concensus", perhaps he finds their comments section mentally stimulating (click the link in the headline and scroll down).

    Regardless if this was faked or not, I don't trust all these band-wagoning fools here or there. All you have to do is read my previous posts that were modded as troll, flame, etc when I predicted a fiaso with Sony's Blu-ray and PS3 releases. People saw big numbers, wanted big numbers, and completely forgot about Sony's failures in the past.

    Kind of reminds me of the idiocy supporting support for multiple wars a couple of years ago. People like to believe things and completely turn off the part of their brain that comprehends history's lessons.