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S. Korea's Stress-Driven Online Gaming Addiction

techsoldaten writes "The Washington Post is running an article about the ever-increasing problem of videogame addiction in South Korea. From the article: 'The situation has grown so acute that 10 South Koreans -- mostly teenagers and people in their twenties -- died in 2005 from game addiction-related causes, up from only two known deaths from 2001 to 2004, according to government officials.'"

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  1. Is it the games? by t0qer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or is it the constant smoke inhalation?

    1. Re:Is it the games? by Aglassis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It says in the article that most of the gamers die due to sitting in cramped positions for hours. Apparently it disrupts their blood circulation.

      It seems to me that if they went out for smokes, a lot fewer gamers would be dying. At least in the short term.

      We have a major lesson here: get up and take a walk every couple of hours.

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    2. Re:Is it the games? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Informative
      RTA:
      Most of the deaths were attributed to a disruption in blood circulation caused by sitting in a single, cramped position for too long -- a problem known as "economy class syndrome," a reference to sitting in an airplane's smallest seats on long flights.
      Apparently "economy class syndrome" is a popular name for deep vein thrombosis... formation of a blod clot in your veins, which can travel to your heart and kill you.

      Maybe these PC baangs should put ReoPro on the menu.

    3. Re:Is it the games? by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This just in: Excessive amounts of ANYTHING is bad, mmkay?

    4. Re:Is it the games? by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm paralyzed from the waist down you insensitive clod!

    5. Re:Is it the games? by boxfetish · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I beg to differ. As a former alcohol/drug addict, online games have been a godsend. Yes, I am "addicted" to a game now, but I have used the MMORPG as a substitute for my previous addiction to drugs and alcohol. I may be somewhat antisocial by normal standards, but at least, now, my relationships to others are somewhat normal.

      Before, I could not hold down a job, or maintain any sort of lasting relationship. My relationships with family members were severly strained.

      Now, that I am a MMORPG addict, my relationships with my (most recent) girlfriend and family are excellent by comparison, and I have been able to hold down an excellent full time job for a year.

      It is all a matter of perspective. There are many worse things in this world that a person could be doing with their spare time.

      And, to be honest with you, how is spending 10 hours "gaming" any different than spending 10 hours reading fiction, or watching TV? They are all "wastes of time", right.

      Time that could have been spent...

    6. Re:Is it the games? by alexandrecc · · Score: 4, Informative
      Actually they probably died of massive pulmonary embolism secondary to a deep vein thrombosis in the legs that traveled into the right chambers of the heart and then to the lungs.

      Reopro is not a prophylactic (prevention) agent. Heparin or low molecular weight heparin is usually used in hospitals to prevent this to happen in the patients who stays in bed for many days or weeks. A filter in the lower vein cave to prevent the migration of the clots are something used. But honestly we can't seriously suggest all these options for these guys. These drugs all have potential secondary effects of bleeding anywhere (skin, GI tube, or even worse in the brain).

      Usually as some of you said, the best advice is to walk like 2-5 min every hour. This is even more true for the women, taking birth control pill, pregnancy, smoking, or obese.

      Deep vein thrombosis is a medical emergency. The symptoms are pain in the calf or leg, asymetric swollen leg, skin color change.

      I did a computer engineering degree from 1995-1999 playing about 40 hours a week Warcraft II online. I then did my M.D. from 1999-2004, playing probably 20 hours a week Warcraft III online. I am now a resident 2 in diagnostic radiology. I was for sure addicted (or at least at risk) to these highly competitive games. I am a competitive person. Japan, Korea and US are all very competitive countries where competition is inherent to the culture. Probably inconsciently, for me these games were a way to show to someone else I was better than him. Any competitive human being gets satisfaction from this. Evolution forced this to be in our genes.

      I disagree a little bit about the opinion saying it is a complete waste of time. Hand-eye coordination and speed is very useful in many works; complex decision about a multi-parameters real-time situation can also be useful in the life. If I had a software company or if I would be on the admission commitee of a medical school, I would hire any top 10 world players of a RTS game. At least if they can show they can be functionnal in the life.

      The only thing I was honestly surprised to see about that article was the main cause of death. Before reading it, I was almost sure the main cause would be suicide like in many others addictions. They didn't even talk about it. Maybe this is only a underreporting bias where the relation of suicides aren't that clear with the hardcore gaming like in the case of the deep vein thrombosis relation.

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    7. Re:Is it the games? by DRM_is_Stupid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Reading fiction or watching TV can actually be enriching and mentally stimulating, if you pick challenging things to read or watch. No MMORPGs can really say the same thing.

      Actually, recent studies show that gaming gives the brain more mental stimulus than reading or watching TV because it requires a level of human interation. This is because the gamer has to try to figure out what the opponent's thinking. This type of stimulus helps prevent people from developing a short tempered personality.

    8. Re:Is it the games? by svkal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You don't think what you are watching on TV might matter, do you? I don't think that the GP was implying that watching TV is always mentally stimulating and enriching, but rather that it can be, and I have to agree with him: a good movie or an informative documentary, tends to be much more intellectually advanced and mentally stimulating than a MMORPG. (In my experience, a good novel tends to be better than most things on TV in terms of stimulation of the mind, but I do feel that TV as a medium is unfairly disparaged as culturally worthless simply because some programmes might justifiably be deemed so.)

      Oh, and if online gaming prevents people from developing short tempered personalities, then judging from various chat channels in online games I think we can all agree that the medium is certainly finding the people who need it the most.

    9. Re:Is it the games? by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...helps prevent people from developing a short tempered personality.

      I don't believe that. If you've ever watched someone play AB or WSG in WOW, you'll see just how short tempered players can get.

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    10. Re:Is it the games? by Jon_E · · Score: 3, Insightful

      right - long term recovery generally involves gradually replacing addictions with other ones .. most AA meetings I've seen people move pretty quickly to coffee and smoking addictions .. the trick though is to find better addictions over time. Perhaps moving next towards programming addictions with good opensource projects and perhaps kernel development.

      We're all addicted to things .. it's just a matter of determining if your addictions are destroying your life and others or enriching your life and others. It's always a long term process to get there.

  2. In a poll of 100 gamers, Survey Says... by IAstudent · · Score: 4, Funny

    We require more LAN parties.

  3. Beware MMORPGs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I hate the idea of regulating games, but smart adults should know what these games do to your health. I played WoW for a long time when stress in the real world shoved my ego the wrong way. I stopped fairly recently and resolved my real life problems. Then I realized that I had stopped exercising. I used to run 5 miles a day and lift weights 3 times a week. I'm now about 40 pounds heavier, my muscular strength is about 1/2 what it used to be, and my running endurance is greatly diminished - about 1/5th what it used to be. I'm not blaming WoW per se, but just warning everyone - when I was in the game I had no idea what I was doing to myself. Don't let it bite you in the ass too.

    1. Re:Beware MMORPGs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously, this is just shit from people who don't understand, like, or play games.

      I've been console gaming since the Atari 2600, PC gaming since 1989. Coming out of it I was honstly surprised by how much time WoW had been consuming and how much I had neglected other things. Seriously, online friends are nice, but after a retrospective rational analysis WoW did more to hurt my productivity, creativity, social life, and health than anything else ever has. I'll admit that my play time was above average, but people need to be made aware of how much the game blinds you so that they can make their own rational decisions. Other hobbies are easy to enjoy in moderation, MMORPGs seem designed to promote long term obsessivness like nothing else that's not a drug. You don't realize what you're giving up.

    2. Re:Beware MMORPGs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      These have it as a lifes work.

      Yes, especially if you're a competitive and goal oriented person you can lose yourself. That's what I'm warning people against - I knew I was playing a lot, but it's just a game right? I didn't realize what an impact it was having on the rest of my life. And I didn't play the most, by far. There are people out there who have spent 90-95% of their free time in WoW since it launched. It's something informed consumers should be aware of.

      I had never played a MMORPG before and didn't think I would have problems with one. I did. If you haven't tried one yet it could happen to you, especially if you end up unconsicously using the game as a means to escape real world problems. It's pretty easy to do.

    3. Re:Beware MMORPGs by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm sorry, you think the game somehow blinds players from making rational choice? That's ludicrous.


      Is it?
      No seriously, is it?
      I've often felt the way you do about these games, but to me the idea that they might in some way interfere with rational decision making at least sounds plausible.

      Before dismissing the possibility, I'd like to see some scientific research.

      -- Should you believe authority without question?
    4. Re:Beware MMORPGs by Frozen+Void · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course he doesn't know how games work:.
      Its the same game you got interested in.
      Game you started playing.Game you bought.Value of expected entertainment.
      A sense of accomplishment for playing.
      Game that has your friends in.
      Game that you can communicate better then real life.
      Game where you can roleplay anything.
      Game that has strong community.
      Game where you can choose exactly what you want.
      A detachment from real life.
      Real life runs in separate process.
      Game that can compete with real life.
      Game that is superior to entertainment.
      Game that is better then social networking.
      Game that is better then physical activities and sports.
      Game that interferes with real life.
      the crucial step is revaluation.
      Real life is chore,a burden on the better activity such as the game.
      Real life interferes with inferior motives.
      Game works for superior motives,better sounding and much more interesting at this point.
      Game increases happiness more if investment in time increases.
      Game needs concentration and awareness more then real life.
      Real life is boring and bland.

      Connect the dots.That how addiction forms.

  4. Someone's been slacking by 0racle · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is Jack Thompson not doing enough recently to demonize games?

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  5. hmmm by dghcasp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is it wrong that I'm reading this topic while waiting to be respawned in Counter Strike?

  6. Pretty Safe Addiction; by Ruff_ilb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just TEN PEOPLE died?

    Sorry guys, not that significant. How many people die every year due to any sort of drug related addiction?

    A hell of a lot more.

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    1. Re:Pretty Safe Addiction; by bitt3n · · Score: 2

      the point is that while it is perhaps arguable that cocaine cartels, triads, yakuza, etc. may be very nearly as predatory, amoral and rapacious as video game companies, the latter are somewhat easier to sue.

    2. Re:Pretty Safe Addiction; by evileyetmc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would love to see video game manufacturers being sued for "death due to overplaying". I mean they already have to put on rating stickers.
      Next sticker on the box: "Warning: Death or dismemberment may ensue if this product is used in excess"

      Wow. If only people acted like the "advanced species" we are supposed to be.

    3. Re:Pretty Safe Addiction; by rolfwind · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Take it in context. Gaming isn't an inherently dangerous activity, like say, mountain climbing, bungee-jumping, or even driving.

      The danger they are describing isn't a physical one (for the most part) but a social, personal and pyschological one primarily - the deaths simply highlight how extreme the problem is in some people.

      Replace the word gaming with internet, wouldn't you sit up and take notice if several people died from internet addiction?

      That said, I don't blame gaming, because it might as well be replaced with the word internet. But as in everything else, learn (and teach the kids) moderation.

    4. Re:Pretty Safe Addiction; by Propaganda13 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Manufacturers would love to put that sticker on some games. Come on, wouldn't you buy a game that said "Warning: This game is so addictive that you may die from it" and meant it?

      Just put some weights by the computer and lift when you're waiting for respawn. You'll either get buff or you'll get better at CS.

  7. Survey by porkThreeWays · · Score: 5, Funny

    When American gamers were asked to comment about their South Korean counterparts, 86% responded "gogo = boot"

    The last 14% just said "no gooks ffa snipers r0xor teh n00bs kekeke k thx~~"

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    1. Re:Survey by IAstudent · · Score: 3, Funny

      In my own survey, 75% of American gamers responded with a Zerg rush.

      The other 25% were too busy hax0ring Korean MMOs to respond.

    2. Re:Survey by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, there's not much you can say in response to that, except, "1 more googgo googgo ggggoogoogooogogoooggoogoogogog kekekeke"

  8. Damnit South Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You need to get a job and a girlfriend and move out of my basement!!

    Signed,
    Mrs. Korea

  9. Dupe. Marathon gaming still a problem. (plz read) by iamcf13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This item appeared earlier here. I don't have the exact URL to it though....

    For those 'afflicted', they see it as the only means of escape from a stress-filled, dead end life into a world where they have the power to do just about anything. For a handfull of people, that is all they have to live for hence their marathon gaming sessions and (sometimes unfortunately) subsequent death.

    If society at large wasn't so materialistic and cash-driven (gotta make a buck no matter what the cost), the stress levels would go down dramatically so people wouldn't do marathon gaming anymore as a means of escape from their 'pitiful' lives. Perhaps they could do 'great things' that would benifit society worldwide as a whole without the relentless pressure to 'grab cash' along the way just to stay alive....

  10. in the meantime by Robocoastie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the meantime far more people get injured playing or by fights or even killed over their constant passion for Monday Night Football and yet we see no articles about it because "oh that's normal..." It's just more of the "us vs. those weirdos" mentality.

  11. Industrial rat-race? by Somnus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Individuality and inspiration are grossly undervalued resources in many Asian cultures. So is reason, but it's not as obvious.

  12. Fuzzy statistics by andrewman327 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am sure that more than 2 people died from gaming related causes in that time period. The medical community just wasn't yet aware of the effects of non-stop gaming. I am an EMT, but if someone dies of a blood clot, the cause of death will not be listed as "LAN Party," it will be listed as "Pulmonary embolism."

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  13. Acceptable Addiction vs. Unacceptable Addiction by reporter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The articles hints at two forms of addiction.

    1. One form is simply that a game player likes the computer game. The player might spend hours on playing the game. A good example of an absorbing game is Netrek of the early 1990s. Many geeks at UC-Berkeley spent hours on playing this game instead of working on their Ph.D. dissertations.
    2. Another form is a means to escape an abusive household. The article at the "Washington Post" states, "'I can understand my son's suffering,' she said. ' He could never satisfy his father and was failing at school. But when he plays his games, he becomes an undefeatable warrior.'" When parents physically or emotionally brutalize their children, the victims try to flee to safety. In a Western nation, most people oppose child abuse and would offer to help the victims of abuse.

      In Korea, the story is quite different. In Korea, you would consider someone with different blood to be inferior and to be not worthy of your help. The overwhelming majority of adopted Korean orphans are adopted by Westerners. The typical Korean could not care less about orphans -- or abused children. In this kind of cold, brutal environment, an abused child has nowhere to run. So, the child escapes into on-line gaming: a fantasy world where the abused child can have the wonderful childhood that he cannot have in real life.

    The first form of addiction is probably acceptable, but the second form of addiction is not. The second form is a terrible cry for help.
  14. Re:Not {justabout the deaths by Charcharodon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The problem with video games is they are excellent "success simulators". That feeling of self worth, even if artificial, is very satisfying. Throw in another condition such as OCD and you end up with people selfdestructing online.

  15. At last. . . by LunarCrisis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At last, someone who knows what they're talking about.

    FTA:
    "Game addiction has become one of our newest societal ills," said Son Yeongi, president of the Korea Agency for Digital Opportunity, which offers government-funded counseling. "Gaming itself is not the problem. Like anything, this is about excessive use."

    And later:
    "There is nothing wrong with kids relieving stress through games," Chin said. "But parents need to watch for the warning signs of addiction. If a child gets violent when told to stop playing a game, that's one of the first indications that there's a problem."

    It's refreshing to see a take on this which doesn't involve video games being the spawn of the devil.

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    Nine: One day I will kill him. Then, I will be Ten.
  16. Hm. by Khaed · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd hate for my last words to be:

    "kekekeke zerg rush ^___^"

  17. Re:Dupe. Marathon gaming still a problem. (plz rea by TwentyLeaguesUnderLa · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Well, the "society" is just a collection of individuals. Individuals and their views. To change a society, you have to influence the people in it.

    People generally want to be respected and liked by their peers. And "in a materialistic society", part of the way people are judged is material wealth. It's hard to decide to not be materialistic when that means people you know will look down on you.

    Yes, it's definitely an individual problem, not "just" a societal one - if you pick your friends right, you'll know people that won't think less of you because of your house size. But the more materialistic societies make it that much harder - the same people that would be able to resist in one culture would collapse and go with the crowd in a different one.

  18. Statistically insignificant, totally irrelevant by TheFlamingoKing · · Score: 2, Informative
    10/6,518,599,483

    0.000000153% of the total world's population.

    10/48,422,644

    0.000020651% of the South Korean population.

    So, yes, compared to the total deaths in S. Korea from cancer (~65,000 in 2004) or suicide (~12,000 in 2004) [source] I would say it is rather insignificant.

    I mean, "every day, 37 Korean children under the age of 14 are killed or injured as pedestrians in road traffic accidents." [source] These people were playing video games too much.

  19. How can people even acomplish this feat?! by APLowman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I, personally, am astonished that people can FORCE themselves to SIT until they DIE.

    OK, serously, how the hell can you find something enjoyable for more then a few hours. I play games all the time; I even read Slashdot while flying in WoW, but I cannot play that game for more then 8 hours with out dying(in game) from lack of attention to my health bar. it just stops being fun after a while and becomes a chore. What do I do? I LOG OFF and DO SOMETHING ELSE! I can see being stuck longer then you want in a raid or something but not 50 hours. I'd be like you guys have wiped over and over for the past 12 hours... bye!

    I don't claim to have a life, I sit around and play games all day, but I get up off my ass every few hours even if it's to roam aimlessly becuase I have to walk. i just don't understand how life could suck so much that you don't move for 50 hours. I guess life in S. Korea is allot crappier then here in the US.

  20. Re:Hmm by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Funny

    If regenerating health takes so long a Gameboy may be a worthwile investment. Only problem I had with it was that the Gameboy game tends to become more interesting than the MMORPG and I forget to stand up and fight the next mob.

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  21. Online Gaming is worse than drugs by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Once you get a taste of Online gaming you want more, but you need harder and harder stuff to fit your bill or you get bored and aggitatted with the gaming industry. With drugs, you just take more and you get your high. Online gaming is so new that there isn't enough to satisfy a hardcore gamer's addiction, so they turn to things like walking outside which renders more FPS than the best video card. ITs the less than hardcore gamers that give addicts a bad name. They play and play without realizing the game they're can be broken down into imbalances, paper rock scissor decisions, repetitiveness, or level capping. These addicts without vision are the one's at true risk. A regular hardcore gamer just isn't satisfied anymore. Can I get a,"I can't get no satisfaction" from the hardcore gaming crowd?

  22. Re:However by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Except that something like that is going to piss people off and make them go play another game. I don't play World of Warcraft all that often any more, maybe once every other week, but when I do, it's usually for a number of hours. Just how I like to do things. I'll spend a Saturday playing and can be logged in for 6 straight hours. Now I'm not always at the console, I'll get up to go to the bathroom, get food, or just to stretch a bit, but I'll stay logged in the whole time (it is inconvenient and unnecessary to log out). If you start kicking me off I'll just get mad and sign up with someone else. Never mind that I could just go and play another game.

    This whole nanny ideal where technology or the government needs to watch out for us in every little way is stupid. Yes, people are dumb, they do things to an excess. It is not the job of everyone else in the world to solve that problem via regulation because it doesn't do any good anyhow. You do not cure an addict through force, they can only cure themselves by choosing to.

    The real answer is to understand what leads to game addiction, what the signs are, and for people who care about the addicts to confront them with their problem and help them through it. It's no different than alcohol addiction. Most people don't get addicted to alcohol, some do. The answer is not to ban alcohol.

  23. Should have been indoors playing games by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 2, Informative

    Let's see... if 37 * 365 = 13505 per year outdoors in traffic, yet only 10 die indoors playing games, then games are 1350.5 times safer, right? A mere 10 is a figure to be celebrated.

  24. Painful flashback by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know, that sounds like just what pushed me towards programming.

    For whatever other qualities my parents had, and much as they did give me some good education too, they had two problems:

    1. Between them and grandma, I had exactly zero privacy.

    It may sound like "wtf, he'll have privacy when he's on his own, not in _my_ house", but seriously, please don't do that to your kid. Even the most affectionate cat needs its moments when it's alone.

    It's not even just that _they_ were with me all the time (I couldn't even just go to a freaking summer camp, one of them had to come there to keep keeping an eye on me), the worst was that they told everyone every single detail I ever did. It's a freaking nightmare to live with your whole life posted on a public billboard, so to speak. Virtually _noone_ is _that_ extroverted. It gives everyone in town control over your life: e.g., you can't tell your friends "sorry, can't come now, I haven't finished homework" when you know they already know, or will find out, exactly at which hour you were already done with your homework. Or not without quickly losing every single friend you ever had.

    Or to give an example that's still traumatic to think about, I had a girlfriend at some point in high school (yes, I wasn't that nerdy) which pretty quickly got addicted to my computer. Well, fairy 'nuff, I'm not even opposed to sharing the computer, but let's at least try to do something else too. So I pull a "let's go out today, mom doesn't let me use the computer today." (Right, I'm losing all nerd credibility here;) Mom actually called her to tell her that's not true. That was one relationship that went down hill very fast thereafter.

    2. Their approach to "rewarding" any personal initiative was, well, best illustrated by Mac Hall Comics. (It's just a comic and safe for work.) Just about everything I did was most likely to be met with, literally, "*sigh* Who the hell told you to do that?" or "*sigh* Who the hell told you to do it like that?" It was as good as a slap in the face, let me tell you.

    You get the idea.

    Thing is, programming was something that side-stepped both issues and put _me_ in control. Finally. Bloody finally.

    Now they're both programmers and perfectly capable of understanding what I did there, but:

    A) Anyone they _could_ tell stuff like "our little Moraelin used a goto instead of a loop today" (and have any hope they'd understand that) was usually way outside the circle of people I was in. Which was as good as having some privacy for a change.

    B) They were actually pretty easy to satisfy in that domain. I suppose that when a kid writes machine code and it works, it's pretty hard to pull a "*sigh* Who the hell told you to do it like that?" (And I really mean machine code: the 1K RAM in a ZX-81 wasn't enough for an assembler, so I had to convert it to hex by hand.) If nothing else, it works.

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  25. more dangerous even than killer weed! by misanthrope101 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Just TEN PEOPLE died?

    Sorry guys, not that significant. How many people die every year due to any sort of drug related addiction?

    Well, that's about ten people more than die of marijuana overdose every year, and we send you to jail for selling that, don't we?
  26. Heroin vs RPGs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As I sit here I am in my 3rd treatment center for heroin. However, I also was an Everquest addict when I was in high school. In my personal experience, they have had some interesting parallels and interesting differences. I'm going to spell out some of the differences, as I feel that this problem isn't being taken seriously enough. This is just my personal experiences, and in no way does it describe everyone.

    -Isolation as a result of everquesting all day was even more severe than my worst run on heroin. Heroin alienated my friends, but when I was everquesting, I didn't have any friends to go back to because they were all online. Heroin could be combined with school, and even if it suffered, I was still making it to my classes mids and finals. Everquest/rpgs and school are mutually exclusive - You are either doing one or the other. If you are gaming all day, that is ALL you are doing.

    -Self delusional thoughts on heroin and while playing everquest seemed to be similar in ways. In both worlds you feel like you are the master of your universe. The problem is, that feeling gets so strong, both things seemed to be better than experiencing actual life. A fantasy world was way more enjoyable at the time in both cases.

    -Health - Now these two were almost exactly the same. Heroin doesn't "damage" your body (except in cases of overdose), so the health concerns are from personal neglect. In both cases, I would stop showering, brushing teeth, eating as little as I could to stay alive.

    I was an everquest addict before I ever tried drugs. I finally quit playing before college after seeing friends fail out because of everquest. When I finally tried hard drugs (ie opiates), it seemed like I feel right into it at once, I had a learned behavior with addiction. I used to joke when I started heroin that smack wasnt as bad as eversmack. I don't have the answers though, I just wanted to demonstrate any kind of addiction is bad.

    Hope this is insightful.

  27. Re:However by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So download an alarm mod. There's plenty of mods out there that use the ingame clock (it has one) to do things like buzz you after a certian amount of time. Of course it shouldn't be necessary. Just listen to your body. If you are thirsty, get a drink, if you are stiff, stretch, etc. You shouldn't need a reminder for that, your body lets you know.