$247.75 a year for Defense
$3.98 a year for FEMA
$22.88 a year for unemployment ins.
$36.82 a year for food stamps
$6.96 a year for welfare
$43.78 a year for civil an military retirement
$4000 for a year for corporate subsidies
Uh, try again. The Oregon rep and the other idiots on that committee would NOT be in charge of anything, the FCC would. Parent is correct.
And, for the record, the FCC does have the legal authority to pass the rules...
Can't wait until this dies in the Senate...
He's not exaggerating, he's lying or is prone to typos. Nowhere in WI is sales tax 6.5% and there is no possible income at which the WI state income tax is almost triple the federal.
I also live in WI. My house is valued at $115,000 and my property tax was $2600 last year. My federal income tax is over 2.5 times my states and I pay 5.5% in sales tax.
"This is a perfect example of punishing people for working hard and taking personal responsibility."
And your post is an example of unexamined privilege. Why do you assume that the things you have are a result of mostly working hard and personal responsibilty rather than mostly an accident of birth? Or at least a combination of both? Or that those that don't have what you have are by implication not hard working and not responsible?
I don't understand why so many people who have so clearly benefited from our society have the attitude of "fuck you, I have mine" when they are expected to support that society that enabled their success. Why are you afraid of being considered well off when you are? Why is supporting society considered bad? Try not to be an example of someone who was born on base and assumes that they got a hit....
Very well stated! This is what it all boils down to. "Unexamined privilege" is exactly what this all boils down to. People who do better have more priveleges and opportunity than those who don't It's a fact.
Mod parent up!!!!
Right, because income tax is the only possible method that the government can use to obtain funds. There aren't any possible [wikipedia.org] methods [wikipedia.org] that would tax the rich more than the poor without making the rich feel unfairly taxed..
I call "bullshit". So, it ins't taxation that the pretender-tarians object to, it's income tax. Riiiight. No doubt we wouldn't have heard a peep from them if Washington State was proposing an additional 5% property tax on all property with an assessed value of over $200,000, 9% over $500,000, we wouldn't have heard a peep.
I understand from your comments below that you felt you were mistaken, but I find your comment
here and the high rating very interesting.
I'm wondering what the driving force is for people who don't make $200K, indeed anywhere near
it, that causes them to try to protect the people who make over $500K.
In short, there are lots of regular joes who want to pamper multi-millionaires.
I see this very often. I find it confusing when these regular joes aren't actually in the
bracket they're trying to protect, and most likely (looking at the quantity of persons who
are in the bracket v. quantity of supportive joes) won't even reach the bracket.
And... the people who are in the privileged bracket are already taking very
good care of themselves because of the power afforded them by their bracket. And...
they're doing it at the expense of or at least in disregard of the people in the regular joes
bracket.
Can one of you regular joes who wants to support multi-millionaires explain to me what
motivates you? I doubt it's because you have a lord-loving serf attitude. Maybe you believe
you will be uber-wealthy before long? Maybe you identify with the multi-millionaires, feeling
like others are always getting you down and being a drag on you?
I suspect you already know the answer to this. It is because they desperately want to be the multi-millionaire and have bought they song and dance that with a little elbow grease and a positive outlook, they too will be a multi-millionaire just like their hero. It's a sort of preverse hero-worship, Stockholm syndrome thing.
Let's see who comes crashing down, the US with its libertarians or the EU with its Eurocrat Eurosocialists. Care to take any bets, fuckstick?
The fun thing about watching Europe disintegrate over the coming decades under the weight of their ridiculous social services burden with their shrinking native population growth and influx of poor immigrants will be the riots. You take one penny of social services or outrageous work benefits from a European and he'll riot like a motherfucker at the drop of a hat.
LOL. What a joke. I'll take that wager, shitstain.
I can't believe that there are asshats like you that advocate income taxes on anyone, regardless of what they're earning. Penalizing people for their success in the market is how you retard growth, savings, and investment. If you want to have the right incentives in place, then tax what people spend, not what they earn.
LOL. The fatal flaw in your reasoning is that you mistakenly assume that the playing field is level and that whatever anyone has, they, by definition, deserve to have. It's an easy mistake to make.
I am all in favor of a tax on consumption (state and federal sales taxes) rather than earning (income tax), as long as it's progressive. Most of you "pretendertarians" wouldn't be in favor of any such thing though.
I'm not finding it hard to make ends meet. No one said that or anything like that.
I'm making two points. One, making $200,000 is not at all like having million dollar homes or yachts. Anyone can do this. There's no reason to punish people for being successful, responsible producers in this economy.
Second, these people are the ones who are productive in this economy, they put their money to use in useful ways and many help create other jobs.
They are not people whose throats ought to be slashed by the government simply because they can't control their spending habits.
Holy shit! How is a 5% income tax rate "punishing people for being successful"? You certainly do have a monstrous sense of entitlement. Astounding.
The real problem is that cunts like you think we live in a meritocracy where everyone has only what they deserve. If you benefit more from society then you give more back (even if it has to be coerced by force). I can't believe that there are fools actually arguing against an income tax on income above $200,000. Really, this country needs to take out the libertarian trash.
I got a beta key and played through many of the missions last night. Really? Don't bother. The UI is terrible and the graphics are terrible for a game that is releasing this year. They must be using a 5 year old graphics engine or something. There is a 1 or 2 second delay between pressing the F key to interact and the action. Very aggravating.
I will keep playing off and on for the next two weeks and hope for a miracle, but I was expecting much more and barring some sort of miracle, I won't be buying this game at all.
...I had never even heard of this movie/project until I read this story. I am now happily downloading the torrent for viewing. Several orders of magnitude more people will now see this movie than otherwise would have. Way to protect your IP, Nintendo!!
What google did is akin to a phone book company featuring more promonently the phone numbers and addresses for various Chevy dealerships in all of the listings or yellowpages ads for the Ford dealerships. So, when call the first number or drive to the first address that you saw in a Ford dealership ad, you end up reaching a Chevy dealership simply because Chevy paid YellowBook (more)money to have their contact information show up more prominently in the Ford listings than Ford did.
Not sure how this will turn out and IANAL but it seems to me that Google should lose this lawsuit.
Maybe if the competition tried to fill a niche that WoW doesn't instead of trying to copy them? There are plenty of niches that WoW doesn't bother to cater to. Full loot, FFA PvP, Sci-Fi, skill based system (like UO or original SWG), a fusion of FPS and RPG or RTS and RPG, etc. Instead of filling these niches and being content with a few hundred thousand subscribers (at least at first), the idiots calling the shots at these other development companies are trying to release games that are basically carbon copies of WoW, thinking that they can out WoW, WoW. Ain't happening.
Buried in the troopergate report is a sentence that says what she did was within her constitutional powers. The ethics law she supposedly violated is written so broadly that ordering lunch could be a violation. Basically, any decision made is considered a violation if it makes you happy.
If this were true then why wouldn't the Republican majority which allowed this investigation block it? If it is so broad as to be ripe for being abused, don't you think they would have stopped this?
"This is the last chance for America to prove it's not totally made up of braindead, religious, nutbag trailer trash. If the GOP steals this one, too..I'm moving to Canada."
Funny you say that when here is a list of people that support obama:
-Paris hilton
-Britney spears
-Hugo Chavez
A shining example of intelligence and freedom.
I don't think we want you in america anyway..we will be happy to see you go.
There is a big difference between having brain-dead trash as a supporter and picking it as your running mate. If Obama chose any of them as his running mate, I wouldn't vote for him either.
Did the "braindead, religious, nutbag, trailer trash" remark hit too close to home?
I work for the IT division of a state government and I can tell you that taking credit for work or projects of those beneath you is the quickest way to climb the ladder.
That, and kissing the ass of your immediate superiors.
Learning how to cheat without getting caught and learning how to bullshit your way out of the situation if you do get caught are probably more useful skills than any others.
I beg to differ. As a former alcohol/drug addict, online games have been a godsend. Yes, I am "addicted" to a game now, but I have used the MMORPG as a substitute for my previous addiction to drugs and alcohol. I may be somewhat antisocial by normal standards, but at least, now, my relationships to others are somewhat normal.
Before, I could not hold down a job, or maintain any sort of lasting relationship. My relationships with family members were severly strained.
Now, that I am a MMORPG addict, my relationships with my (most recent) girlfriend and family are excellent by comparison, and I have been able to hold down an excellent full time job for a year.
It is all a matter of perspective. There are many worse things in this world that a person could be doing with their spare time.
And, to be honest with you, how is spending 10 hours "gaming" any different than spending 10 hours reading fiction, or watching TV? They are all "wastes of time", right.
They pay more attention to written and mailed letters than email, but, there is no reason that everybody can't take a few minutes of their time to fill out a webform/email telling their reps to support this effort.
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If you make $50,000 a year you pay
$247.75 a year for Defense
$3.98 a year for FEMA
$22.88 a year for unemployment ins.
$36.82 a year for food stamps
$6.96 a year for welfare
$43.78 a year for civil an military retirement
$4000 for a year for corporate subsidies
Are you sure that you're pissed at the right people? sources http://www.commondreams.org/ http://www.whitehouse.gov/2012...
For convincing me to become a contributing member of the FSF today.
Uh, try again. The Oregon rep and the other idiots on that committee would NOT be in charge of anything, the FCC would. Parent is correct. And, for the record, the FCC does have the legal authority to pass the rules... Can't wait until this dies in the Senate...
Well, I am pretty sure you pretender-tarian types are in the minority. Perhaps you are thinking back to a time when /. had 500,000 users?
He's not exaggerating, he's lying or is prone to typos. Nowhere in WI is sales tax 6.5% and there is no possible income at which the WI state income tax is almost triple the federal. I also live in WI. My house is valued at $115,000 and my property tax was $2600 last year. My federal income tax is over 2.5 times my states and I pay 5.5% in sales tax.
Personally? I'd opt for the spotty 1Mb DSL. No way I give this company my money no matter how much of an inconvenience it would be for me.
How does the ISP win by having no customers?
"This is a perfect example of punishing people for working hard and taking personal responsibility."
And your post is an example of unexamined privilege. Why do you assume that the things you have are a result of mostly working hard and personal responsibilty rather than mostly an accident of birth? Or at least a combination of both? Or that those that don't have what you have are by implication not hard working and not responsible?
I don't understand why so many people who have so clearly benefited from our society have the attitude of "fuck you, I have mine" when they are expected to support that society that enabled their success. Why are you afraid of being considered well off when you are? Why is supporting society considered bad? Try not to be an example of someone who was born on base and assumes that they got a hit....
Very well stated! This is what it all boils down to. "Unexamined privilege" is exactly what this all boils down to. People who do better have more priveleges and opportunity than those who don't It's a fact. Mod parent up!!!!
Right, because income tax is the only possible method that the government can use to obtain funds. There aren't any possible [wikipedia.org] methods [wikipedia.org] that would tax the rich more than the poor without making the rich feel unfairly taxed..
I call "bullshit". So, it ins't taxation that the pretender-tarians object to, it's income tax. Riiiight. No doubt we wouldn't have heard a peep from them if Washington State was proposing an additional 5% property tax on all property with an assessed value of over $200,000, 9% over $500,000, we wouldn't have heard a peep.
I understand from your comments below that you felt you were mistaken, but I find your comment here and the high rating very interesting.
I'm wondering what the driving force is for people who don't make $200K, indeed anywhere near it, that causes them to try to protect the people who make over $500K.
In short, there are lots of regular joes who want to pamper multi-millionaires.
I see this very often. I find it confusing when these regular joes aren't actually in the bracket they're trying to protect, and most likely (looking at the quantity of persons who are in the bracket v. quantity of supportive joes) won't even reach the bracket. And... the people who are in the privileged bracket are already taking very good care of themselves because of the power afforded them by their bracket. And... they're doing it at the expense of or at least in disregard of the people in the regular joes bracket.
Can one of you regular joes who wants to support multi-millionaires explain to me what motivates you? I doubt it's because you have a lord-loving serf attitude. Maybe you believe you will be uber-wealthy before long? Maybe you identify with the multi-millionaires, feeling like others are always getting you down and being a drag on you?
I suspect you already know the answer to this. It is because they desperately want to be the multi-millionaire and have bought they song and dance that with a little elbow grease and a positive outlook, they too will be a multi-millionaire just like their hero. It's a sort of preverse hero-worship, Stockholm syndrome thing.
Let's see who comes crashing down, the US with its libertarians or the EU with its Eurocrat Eurosocialists. Care to take any bets, fuckstick? The fun thing about watching Europe disintegrate over the coming decades under the weight of their ridiculous social services burden with their shrinking native population growth and influx of poor immigrants will be the riots. You take one penny of social services or outrageous work benefits from a European and he'll riot like a motherfucker at the drop of a hat.
LOL. What a joke. I'll take that wager, shitstain.
To whom, exactly, are you referring?
-jcr
Gee, I can't imagine who he is referring to.
I can't believe that there are asshats like you that advocate income taxes on anyone, regardless of what they're earning. Penalizing people for their success in the market is how you retard growth, savings, and investment. If you want to have the right incentives in place, then tax what people spend, not what they earn.
LOL. The fatal flaw in your reasoning is that you mistakenly assume that the playing field is level and that whatever anyone has, they, by definition, deserve to have. It's an easy mistake to make. I am all in favor of a tax on consumption (state and federal sales taxes) rather than earning (income tax), as long as it's progressive. Most of you "pretendertarians" wouldn't be in favor of any such thing though.
I'm not finding it hard to make ends meet. No one said that or anything like that. I'm making two points. One, making $200,000 is not at all like having million dollar homes or yachts. Anyone can do this. There's no reason to punish people for being successful, responsible producers in this economy. Second, these people are the ones who are productive in this economy, they put their money to use in useful ways and many help create other jobs. They are not people whose throats ought to be slashed by the government simply because they can't control their spending habits.
Holy shit! How is a 5% income tax rate "punishing people for being successful"? You certainly do have a monstrous sense of entitlement. Astounding.
The real problem is that cunts like you think we live in a meritocracy where everyone has only what they deserve. If you benefit more from society then you give more back (even if it has to be coerced by force). I can't believe that there are fools actually arguing against an income tax on income above $200,000. Really, this country needs to take out the libertarian trash.
Wish I had points to mod this up. This is pretty much the most insightful post on "griefing" in this entire thread.
I got a beta key and played through many of the missions last night. Really? Don't bother. The UI is terrible and the graphics are terrible for a game that is releasing this year. They must be using a 5 year old graphics engine or something. There is a 1 or 2 second delay between pressing the F key to interact and the action. Very aggravating. I will keep playing off and on for the next two weeks and hope for a miracle, but I was expecting much more and barring some sort of miracle, I won't be buying this game at all.
...I had never even heard of this movie/project until I read this story. I am now happily downloading the torrent for viewing. Several orders of magnitude more people will now see this movie than otherwise would have. Way to protect your IP, Nintendo!!
What google did is akin to a phone book company featuring more promonently the phone numbers and addresses for various Chevy dealerships in all of the listings or yellowpages ads for the Ford dealerships. So, when call the first number or drive to the first address that you saw in a Ford dealership ad, you end up reaching a Chevy dealership simply because Chevy paid YellowBook (more)money to have their contact information show up more prominently in the Ford listings than Ford did. Not sure how this will turn out and IANAL but it seems to me that Google should lose this lawsuit.
Maybe if the competition tried to fill a niche that WoW doesn't instead of trying to copy them? There are plenty of niches that WoW doesn't bother to cater to. Full loot, FFA PvP, Sci-Fi, skill based system (like UO or original SWG), a fusion of FPS and RPG or RTS and RPG, etc. Instead of filling these niches and being content with a few hundred thousand subscribers (at least at first), the idiots calling the shots at these other development companies are trying to release games that are basically carbon copies of WoW, thinking that they can out WoW, WoW. Ain't happening.
Buried in the troopergate report is a sentence that says what she did was within her constitutional powers. The ethics law she supposedly violated is written so broadly that ordering lunch could be a violation. Basically, any decision made is considered a violation if it makes you happy.
If this were true then why wouldn't the Republican majority which allowed this investigation block it? If it is so broad as to be ripe for being abused, don't you think they would have stopped this?
"This is the last chance for America to prove it's not totally made up of braindead, religious, nutbag trailer trash. If the GOP steals this one, too..I'm moving to Canada."
Funny you say that when here is a list of people that support obama: -Paris hilton -Britney spears -Hugo Chavez A shining example of intelligence and freedom. I don't think we want you in america anyway..we will be happy to see you go.
There is a big difference between having brain-dead trash as a supporter and picking it as your running mate. If Obama chose any of them as his running mate, I wouldn't vote for him either. Did the "braindead, religious, nutbag, trailer trash" remark hit too close to home?
LOL. This is my experience.
I work for the IT division of a state government and I can tell you that taking credit for work or projects of those beneath you is the quickest way to climb the ladder.
That, and kissing the ass of your immediate superiors.
Learning how to cheat without getting caught and learning how to bullshit your way out of the situation if you do get caught are probably more useful skills than any others.
I beg to differ. As a former alcohol/drug addict, online games have been a godsend. Yes, I am "addicted" to a game now, but I have used the MMORPG as a substitute for my previous addiction to drugs and alcohol. I may be somewhat antisocial by normal standards, but at least, now, my relationships to others are somewhat normal.
Before, I could not hold down a job, or maintain any sort of lasting relationship. My relationships with family members were severly strained.
Now, that I am a MMORPG addict, my relationships with my (most recent) girlfriend and family are excellent by comparison, and I have been able to hold down an excellent full time job for a year.
It is all a matter of perspective. There are many worse things in this world that a person could be doing with their spare time.
And, to be honest with you, how is spending 10 hours "gaming" any different than spending 10 hours reading fiction, or watching TV? They are all "wastes of time", right.
Time that could have been spent...
Please! Write/email your congressperson and senator and tell them to support this legislation!
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You can easily submit an email or find their mailing addresses here:
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information
They pay more attention to written and mailed letters than email, but, there is no reason that everybody can't take a few minutes of their time to fill out a webform/email telling their reps to support this effort.