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Remaking The World

Via GameSetWatch, an Edge Online article about rebooting the .hack series of RPGs. From the article: "Most RPGs work like this: a princess is kidnapped, or in danger. A brave young man comes to the rescue and fights off some great evil. We wanted something different. We wanted a duality between the user and character, between real and virtual worlds. With that, you can play between both those worlds, both realities. You enjoy the virtual world for its environment and story, but then you have the real world interacting with and affecting the virtual world."

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  1. FreeBSD by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Funny
    I must be losing it. I saw the title "Remaking the world", and all I could think was:


    # cd /usr/src
    # make buildworld
    # make buildkernel
    # make installkernel
    # reboot


    Of course, that's the "new and improved" method of doing it. IIRC, we used to type "make world" to just build everything.

    (In case you too want to "Remake your world", the instructions can be found on this page.)
  2. Want something different? by lpangelrob · · Score: 3, Funny
    Most RPGs work like this: a princess is kidnapped, or in danger. A brave young man comes to the rescue and fights off some great evil. We wanted something different.

    Well, all right then. What about, after fighting off the great evil, telling the player, "Sorry, #PLAYERNAME, but our princess is in another castle!"?

  3. Re:A Duality.... Pretentious writing by Psmylie · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Here is a link to the wiki for the PS2 game.

    To sum up, both the game and the anime are about a fictional MMORPG called "The World". The anime is mainly about a person who is somehow trapped in the game and can't log out, and the game is about a player who is investigating why some players of the game are rendered comatose while playing. So, in the game you are role-playing a character who is role-playing in an MMORPG. The game itself is sort of a virtual MMO, with all the other "PC's" being computer-controlled.

    It's actually a kind of neat concept, and a fun enough game, though the endless repetative dungeon-crawling takes its toll.

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  4. It's called a "framework." by ZombieRoboNinja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And it's not exactly a revolutionary concept - it seems like pretty much every stage play written in the past 20 years has at least one scene with audience participation, "breaking the fourth wall," or something of the kind.

    For that matter, Final Fantasy Tactics: Advance does almost the exact same thing. (You play as a kid sucked into a video game.)

    And, of course, there was an entire huge four-novel series ("Otherland," written by Tad Williams) with pretty much the exact same plot years ago, even down to the "kids playing an MMO fall into mysterious comas" aspect.

    Personally, the framework strikes me as kind of cutesy and ineffective in a video game context, because the writers have to strive to make us care about TWO levels of characters when it's hard enough to make us care about one.

  5. Now where have I seen this before? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2, Interesting
    We wanted a duality between the user and character, between real and virtual worlds. With that, you can play between both those worlds, both realities. You enjoy the virtual world for its environment and story, but then you have the real world interacting with and affecting the virtual world.

    Isn't that just like in Tron?

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  6. Re:Video game rules by smbarbour · · Score: 3, Funny

    Namco...

    I just had this sudden image in my head of a Pac-Man MMORPG.

    (And now you just did too!)

  7. Screw Hollywood! by MMaestro · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Were you surprised by its success in the US, or had you planned for it?

    Oooh no, this came as a really big surprise. We were actually stunned and asked to double and triple check the figures. I always thought that, in the US, people liked simple stories like in Hollywood movies.

    Screw Hollywood, they've been out of touch with what their audiences want for years. Where are my 'bad/lukewarm endings' in movies? Why the hell does the one girl always live when ten other guys die? Why does Hollywood even put guys in action movies if they're all going to simply die before the end?

    Same with video games. Why does one hero/heroine always manage to save the world single-handedly? What about the hundreds of other NPCs? Why doesn't anyone (important) DIE and STAY DEAD? Storylines in movies and video games are just plain boring as hell these days. Where are my Alfred Hitchcock style storylines where the hero FAILS to stop the evil plot and merely succeeds in simply killing the villain?

  8. Re:Changing the storyline by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually the standard RPG plotline is "random guy finds magic girls and go out to save the world. Turns out the girl is the key to saving the world and the guy had some sort of important past/heritage which [roll d6: 1-2: Makes him a former bad guy, 2-5: Makes him a legendary warrior, 6: Makes him the brother of the girl, roll twice if so desired]".

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  9. Mizuguchi? by tepples · · Score: 3, Funny

    As a general rule of thumb, whenever you see the bandai brand on a videogame, just walk away.

    Does this include Lumines and Meteos?