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Fortune Magazine Profiles MySQL AB
hdtv writes "Fortune magazine profiles MySQL AB, a midsize company with a fairly large footprint. Fortune magazine popped in on another corporate party, which just happened to take place online across countries and continents." From the article: "'When a company is as spread out as this one,' Basil explains, 'you have to think of virtual ways to imitate the dynamics of what goes on in a more familiar employment situation.' That neatly sums up the broader challenge that many companies are confronting: how to nurture a bond among workers who rarely, if ever, meet. Few businesses are as spread out as MySQL, which employs 320 workers in 25 countries, 70 percent of whom work from home."
"I have a very low opinion of human nature, which is that people are both greedy and lazy," declares Michael "Monty" Widenius, co-founder and chief technical officer of MySQL, which is based in Cupertino, Calif. "Of course you have noble people, but they are a small fraction."
Now that's how to gain customers! Insult them in FORTUNE magazine!
Wouldn't that exclude most of
They really seem to like their workers spread out don't they?
Last weekend, I met the vice-president of the organisation I work for for the first time. I've been working there over a year. I think I've met my boss 5 times.
We try to go to free software conferences more than normal so that we all bump into each other.
Other than that, it's pretty much email all the way, with a little irc.
The next big free software conference in Europe is the 3rd international GPLv3 conference in Barcelona, June 22/23.
Before that, I saw my boss in Manchester, England, and before that we met in Porto Alegre, Brazil.
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You know what they say about companies with big footprints.
They wear big shoes.
MySQL says "Don't get too excited."
Here's a novel idea: when you hire someone give them a headset and a free copy of World of Warcraft and subscription. Hold weekly "meetings" where everyone logs on and you discuss talking points while you slay rats and such. I think that even if you are not a gamer, this could still be fun.
Or you could more closely emmulate a real-world meeting with a sandbox game like Second Life and actually create a meeting area. With Second Life you could even show slideshows and stream a video presentation (given that you have the bandwidth for the video since it streams from you and not second life's servers).
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Telecommuting is huge and is obviously growing... I telecommute from home and enjoy it most of the time, but I also despise not going into a noisy office, seeing others, etc. It can be more profitable and beneficial for companies that allow employees to telecommute as well. Costs on infrastructure is saved, equipment costs, etc., Avaya is huge on telecommuting as well: According to the Avaya commissioned IDC Asia Pacific Business Mobility Survey, an overwhelming 70 per cent of Malaysian managers surveyed trust their staff to telecommute, as they feel that the ability to work in various environments encourages employee creativity and consequently productivity. The survey revealed that more than 50 per cent believe that allowing employees to telecommute improves their productivity. The other major benefits of telecommuting cited include enhanced customer service and seizing new business opportunities. source. I also recall reading about their domestic (United States) operations and how much money they've saved and become more productive.
Anyhow back to the article... spot talent among the company's army of volunteers - a minor league for software programmers. I wouldn't agree with that statement in the article. Most software programmers who do open source programming often have professional programming jobs. Calling them "minor league" is off the mark... There are a few other issues with the article as well: Civilians are being enticed to work free. MySQL owes them nothing for their efforts. Contributors are doing work for enjoyment, for getting a good product they can use. MySQL should and probably does show them via acknowledgment appreciation via mentions. I mean think of placing "MySQL Developer" on a resume. It holds weight...
How long can that last? Eventually, it would seem, these hard-working geeks are bound to feel exploited - or migrate to another product's fan club. Even Widenius acknowledges the possibility. For those that do go, others will pop up in their place. Many choose to support this environment because it is beneficial in the long run to them. If I started a SOHO company, why wouldn't I contribute if I'm getting the program for free as opposed to dishing out for Oracle.
"These users have their own needs to satisfy," he says. "Their main motivation is that they are lazy, and once they fix a problem, they want the fix to be in the next version of the software so they don't have to make the same changes again." I wouldn't call the users lazy by reporting problems. I would call them content with getting a good stable product and contributing to the product.
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I can understand existing without a wife or girlfriend. (This is Slashdot.)
But without parents? The last young bachelor who claimed to be the product of parthenogenesis wound up nailed to a tree.
These days, that's bad for business. Can you imagine trying to explain it to his HMO three days later?
"Few businesses are as spread out as MySQL, which employs 320 workers in 25 countries, 70 percent of whom work from home."
;-)
That's a lot of employees! They need an Oracle db!
the idea here is not profit for greed or pay a ceo millions but to have a job that pays the bills , offers productivity , reward for work and the real face of what socialism will look like as we evolve toward that model . The big corps will not be able to compete and will through evolutionary business practeces cease to exists . True socialism is without a central control head and this gives one an idea how even a country could govern in a true social environment
I bet you that they are also, down to an engineer, a company of very experienced engineers. This sort of organization would be nuts if they had a number of young engineers working for them, the types that would need more experienced people around to help them learn. Or would it make perfectly good sense to a business graduate? If they can't sink or swim, it's just that they really suck, not that they're young and inexperienced!
What would make working in an office a much more enjoyable environment is if there were fewer protections for thin-skinned people and you didn't have to feel like you had to "watch yourself" or an employee could complain like a toddler about hurt feewings to management and get you fired to avert a lawsuit. If people could be themselves more easily while working, that would help a lot.
(Granström, a 50-year-old former veterinarian, has his own management problems. During our phone conversation his 13 sheep escaped and were last seen charging toward his garden.)
Awesome. Just awesome.
Its not clear that Michael and Larry are using the same definition of lazy. Larry is clearly talking about the fact that better automation results is less effort.
As for other comments about languages where the coder does not even put in the "{}"s... well go figure.
Man, I hate when managers refer to their direct reports as sheeple!
--Rob
Towards the Singularity.
We had about 60 staff spread out across US, Asia, and Europe by the time I left. When I started, it was just 5 people (including myself).
We mostly all telecommuted, except for the partners who all worked in their main office 2 steps from the beach. They would even buy lunch EVERYDAY for in-house staff, or staff who happened to be in the office that day. It was a great group of people and a great company to work for, even though it was small and on a (somewhat) tight budget.
I worked via telecommute (phone, IM, IRC) for 3 years, and enjoyed every minute of it in my home office, listening to music as loud as I want, and maximizing my creativity/productivity due to minimal distraction.
The only draw back was it consumed my entire life. I became unable to seperate my work life from my home life, and i was working 10-16hrs a day, sometimes all night long (literally). I felt like I was cracked out on code! hehe
Now, I'm a cubicle farmer, and try to work from home when at all possible, but my present employer isn't as flexible when it comes to working from home (although it is allowed).
I've learned to enjoy working in an office, although it really goes against my beliefs. *Think Kunta Kinte*
the only permanence in existence, is the impermanence of existence.
ok.. i quickly read throught the article, then i stopped to think: Why is this article here? What purpose does it serve?
Yes the article is littered with buzz words of the late 90's dot com boom, with sexless geeks up all night sweating/masturbating over code, but seriously. Is this to promote mysql? who gets the brownie points? But then why mysql, really?
i don't undestand mysql's popularity. Open source? yes. Free? hell no. Unless your in the open source business, this thing just costs money like any other commerical product. Forget about features/speed/open etc. none of that really matters, when from the corporate looking glass, its just another "$ per seat" database product.
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I bet he looks for young women with a wife or girlfriend instead! At least I would. ;-)
They found that 80% of wall clock time was being spent in wait states in about six functions. Redundant lock checking code was also found to spike CPU utilization when loaded with over 100 users. Fixes are expected in CVS shortly.
Done with slashdot, done with nerds, getting a life.
/. readers,
The whole idea behind the distributed organisation is an interesting one, and we are very proud to be featured in Fortune Magazine. And we wouldn't be there where it not for the support from our community - so thank you!
As for the quote that was attributed to me, it is not correct word by word. My point was that if you work from your home, it is important that you have some other devotion too, in addition to the company you work for (MySQL in this case). Otherwise you may lose perspective. That other devotion can be nearly anything. For Erik Granström in Sweden it is his family, his sheep farm (yes, he is also a farmer), and writing books.
I would be keen to hear how others deal with this. What tricks and techniques do you have for enjoying working from home, for being productive, for being social with colleagues who are thousands of kilometers/miles away? Let us know!
Marten Mickos, CEO, MySQL AB
Wasn't MySQL AB recently purchased by Oracle? Just curious...
"Crude and slow, clansman. Your attack was no better than that of a clumsy child."
And if the notion that MySQL's customers actually acknowledge their own laziness — that they know quite well they're paying MySQL to do work they could just as well do themselves, and in some cases actually did — is alien, the fact that a MySQL founder can actually say, in front of all his employees and current and potential customers, that he sees greedy lazy people, absolutely infuriates them. That, and he can still make money? Of course they're going to try to undermine that.
That wasn't "lazy" in the pejorative sense, and that's what they don't get.I mean, you can just hear the tune underneath his words:
As always, all IMO. Insert "I think" everywhere grammatically possible.
this gives a whole new twist to the "not in the same state" excuse ;)
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MySQL's Support group includes:
It also includes a couple of Wikipedia (also mentioned in the Fortune story) DBAs with experience designing systems to scale MySQL from a single box to multiple handling a couple of billion queries a day, among others with excellent real-world experience.
One of the things that makes it a good company to work for? I've met Monty in person a few times. On the occasions where we talked a lot about technical issues, he and I disagreed quite strongly at times. I still work for the company. I've done the same with other senior people in the company, communicating messages they were really unhappy to hear, with the same result. Make good arguments and you can dissagree with anyone from the CEO on down and still do well. As Monty said a few days ago: "Our support people are very pragmatic. They don't recommend things they don't believe in." You can tell the truth. Even unpleasant truth.
That's also part of the reason for MySQL's success.
MySQL grew from about 180 people to about 300 in the year I've worked for the company. It's still hiring anyone from database gurus like Jim Starkey through sales people, teachers and administrators. If you like open source and overturning established business models, it's a company worth working for. One thing it isn't: a high-paying company. If you don't value working form home and the other attributes of the comapny, you can probably make more money elsewhere. If you think this is just a sales pitch, read what Monty wrote about MySQL Support people two paragraphs back. :) He's right.
MySQL is completely free of charge for all companies, commercial or not, provided the company isn't redistributing MySQL outside the company, notably as part of its own products. Support contracts are per-server (except for the MySQL Cluster engine), not per-seat and are optional (though recommended for any serious business, of course).
Those who do get to pay are those who distribute non-open source applications with MySQL and/or its libraries outside their own company.
If you do want to compare on cost and performance:
Source: SPEC jAppServer2004 results and licensing fees from the companies. Please see the SPEC page for full disclosures and system descriptions.
That translates to massive savings coupled with tremendous real-time load capacity, particularly with multiple servers in a modern cost-effective scale-out architecture, and is part of why MySQL is so popular.
And you are posting to Slashdot.. why?