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Ubuntu 6.06 Reviewed

Mark writes "This year has been a huge step forward for Desktop Linux users. First, Fedora Core 5 was released and featured the new Gnome 2.14. Then SUSE 10.1 showed us how well applications could be integrated to make a desktop look great. Now it was time for Ubuntu to release their latest version: 'Dapper Drake.'" Oh yeah, the inital review is good, too. Worth checking out for desktop Linux users.

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  1. Painless Upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wow...I made a simple change to my sources.list file and ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and 15 minutes later I went from Breezy to Dapper. No reboot required. Bravo to the Ubuntu team!

    1. Re:Painless Upgrade by shreevatsa · · Score: 5, Informative

      The many (equivalent) ways to upgrade to Dapper ("Ubuntu 6.06") are detailed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades. This, of course, is assuming you're already running Breezy ("Ubuntu 5.10").

    2. Re:Painless Upgrade by HankB · · Score: 5, Informative
      sudo bash
      cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.just-to-be-safe
      vi /etc/apt/sources.list
      1,$s/breezy/dapper/g
      <esc> wq
      apt-get update
      apt-get dist-upgrade
      shutdown -r now


      During the dist-upgrade step you will probably have to answer some questions about using new config files vs. existing modified ones.

      You do need to reboot if you want the new kernel running. (2.6.15)

      Afterwards you might have to tweak some things like the wireless drivers or display drivers. I had to download the synaptics driver because the new one has bugs that manifest for 64 bit systems.

      But it really is that easy!

      -hank
    3. Re:Painless Upgrade by mkro · · Score: 5, Funny

      My grandmother's head exploded just after she finished typing the "vi /etc/apt/sources.list" part :(

      Will this be fixed in future versions of the tutorial?

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    4. Re:Painless Upgrade by misleb · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not to take the wind out of the Ubuntu sails or anything, but such upgradability has been a feature of Debian for a long time now. Ubuntu just inheritted it. I have a Debian desktop that was once installed 8 years ago with Debian 1.2 or something like that and through the years it has been upgraded from one stable release to the next (and sometime unstable/testing). The HD was also moved into faster boxes.

      -matthew

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    5. Re:Painless Upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      I have a Debian desktop that was once installed 8 years ago

      so you got the opportunity to use dist-upgrade what, twice?

  2. Here is why it is a big step by El+Cubano · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This year has been a huge step forward for Desktop Linux users.

    I know that people here frequently complain about things like duplication of effort and forking as things that dilute the impact of Linux and free/open source software on the world. I tend to be of the opposite opinion. You want something geared at the business desktop with good integration and commercial support? Get SuSE. You want something that carries the name of a recognized brand? Get Fedora (yes it is still in many places considered the standard, just look at how many hosting providers provide is as the primary or only platform). You want something different that has a reputation for rock solid stability? Get Debian. You want a user-friendly Debian? Get Ubutnu.

    The point is that the diversity is what makes these things possible. None of those things would be done nearly as effectivly under a "one size fits all" approach.

  3. Re:Desktop/Server/Alternate by jmataya · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the Ubuntu website http://www.ubuntu.com/ />, alternate is for:

    * creating pre-configured OEM systems;
    * setting up automated deployments;
    * upgrading from older installations without network access;
    * LVM and/or RAID partitioning;
    * installing GRUB to a location other than the Master Boot Record;
    * installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.

    Sounds to me like something that could be invaluable to people not necessarily running the latest and greatest.

  4. MEPIS: (K)Ubuntu with codecs by rbrander · · Score: 5, Informative

    Probably the two biggest issues that many have with Ubuntu are that it takes extra work to install MP3 support - not to mention every other codec or player.

    MEPIS has recently confirmed the fears of some that Ubuntu is turning into a platform, displacing Debian itself...MEPIS is/was a KDE desktop based on Debian. The founder's concern with the stability and reliability of the Debian base recently led him to base his distro on Ubuntu sources instead.

    So now with MEPIS, you get Ubuntu, except that it's KDE default, and it comes with every player (Real, Quicktime) and codec plugin for Kaffeine that can be found. Plus, the general layout of menus and the installer have won good reviews all around.

    They're currently a week into beta4 on the new version based on the Dapper base and will likely have an RC1 out by mid-June.

  5. Re:Dapper is good, but it's not there yet. by swab79 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah but if YOU do the install, it is ready for grandma to use. I don't think grandma would do too well installing XP either.

  6. Impressive by ditoa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am a [very] long term Windows user and Windows Admin for a large corporation witl 100,000+ desktops. I love Windows. It is a superb operating system for a corporate environment. Sure it can be a pain in the arse because of updates but its ability to be centrally managed, etc is awesome. There is nothing else that can compete with it on an enterprise level, not even the stunning OS X 10.4. However Ubuntu 6.06 is an incredible operating system. While I am a Windows user I have a lot of respect for a lot of other operating systems. Linux being one of them. Ubuntu is probably the most professional release I have ever used. It installed without a hitch on my 6 months old IBM test workstation. I am very very impressed and I take my hat off to the Ubuntu team. The delay was worth it. Easily. They [the Ubuntu team] have done an incredible job and you have to respect that. I could easily give a Ubuntu system to a new computer user and they be able to learn how to use it for general tasks just as fast as a Windows system. You only have to go to the terminal as much as you need to go to the registry in Windows so it isn't really a battle on ease of use anymore. Ubuntu has brought Linux on par with Windows in that regard. Ubuntu just need to push on hardware support so that if it fails it fails gracfully. X server critical errors need to be replaced with a more graceful drop down to 800x600z256 colours similar to what Windows does. Also the most important thing to get working (other than the graphical interface) is the network. Once you have the network up and running you can get any other driver you need to. Ubuntu worked fine with my network card but I know that it isn't perfect from reports I have read online. I hope that this is fixed in the next release (7.01?). In a nutshell. SUPERB.

  7. Good for desktops, bad for certain laptops. by goofyheadedpunk · · Score: 5, Informative

    On May 29th, two days before release, an ATI bug was introduced via the xorg driver that makes Dapper unstable on certain ATI based systems. In my own case this means that my G4 is now unusable. Just as a reminder, if you think you might be affected, don't upgrade.

    Just for reference, the forum post and the bug report.

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  8. Re:Dapper is good, but it's not there yet. by say · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bah! Is MS paying these people to write one post like this on every mention of linux progress anywhere?

    Dear Sir,

    Your post is addressing the needs of a computer user (Grandma). You argue that she could not use Ubuntu Dapper for her computing needs. According to you, she would have problems with the following:

    • Getting mp3 and video support
    • Getting a binary NVIDIA proprietary video driver
    • Getting a driver for her exotic wi-fi card

    Because this is why she can't switch, I am guessing that you presume she does not know anyone who can help her with that. Fine. And because you argue that this is what makes Ubuntu inapt as an XP replacement, you must be arguing that she em can do all of that on her own with Windows XP.

    "Grandma" does not exist, so stop pulling her out. Let's analyse what kind of person Grandma would have to be to fit the description: She is concerned about the performance loss between the nv and nvidia drivers, but unable to follow the three steps documented under "documentation" on Ubuntus webpage to get the nvidia driver. Also, she is completely able to download and install an updated executable from the correct website when she is in Windows. That kind of person does not exist.

    I am really sick and tired over these kind of comments. "It is really good, I use it, but I doubt anyone could manage to use it". What you are trying to say, is that not everyone can setup and manage a computer, and maintain a healthy, powerful and updated operating system on it. This is old news. It applies just as much to your favoured operating system (which pshyciatric examination would reveal to be Windows) as Ubuntu Dapper.

    As a counter-point, and an exercise to the GP, please do compare the routine of installing office applications on Windows compared to Ubuntu Dapper. Oh, it came pre-installed on Dapper? OK, that's unfair. Then compare installing any other application on Dapper vs. Windows. The ease-of-use for new users is vastly better with Dapper's extremely user-friendly shell over apt-get and dpkg. Windows is more difficult on this much more common task for a newbie than installing custom, 4%-extra-performance-gaining graphic drivers.

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