Tom's Overly Detailed Vista Review
prostoalex writes "The weekend is here, and several software sites have published extensive reviews of Windows Vista for your reading enjoyment. Tom's Hardware is running a 500 hour Windows Vista review that spreads out 40 pages." From the article: "This new operating system is huge: it has more than 37,800 files, taking up a total of 10 GB. Part of this size stems from the fact that the current Beta is for the so-called "Ultimate Edition", which contains all available components, including complete versions of both Tablet PC and Media Center capabilities. In addition, many applications have been compiled in debug mode, so some space savings should occur for final versions once that debug switch is turned off. For our Windows Vista preview, we used Build 5381."
Let me save you some time, this is a dupe.
As a "subscriber", I get the preview of articles with the blurb: See any serious problems with this story? Email our on-duty editor. at the bottom. This gives opportunity to correct errors (doesn't happen much) and more importantly help stem the tide of dupes. I replied, told them "DUPE, BIG TIME", but alas. (It's a dupe of Tom's Hardware Looks at Microsoft Vista Beta.)
So, since it's a dupe, and I already posted to that story, feel free to read my post again.
(I don't mind the occasional dupe, I wonder why a mechanism to prevent them is offered if it isn't used. Sigh.)
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Seriously, this is getting out of hand. He's already had 2 articles today, every one of them linking to a different site of his. Did Slashdot's contract with Roland expire or something? This guy is clearly using Slashdot to pad his various semi-scammy sites. Something smells rotten here(and it's not RMS without a shower...).
Maybe the extensive review is a tribute to the OS in question: Bulky and unnecessary.
All I have to say is http://www.nliteos.com/ (nlite Windows software) to the rescue.
You can read the original thread here
And if you don't like clicking through 40 pages, there's a print view here
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im mean really mandriva is 12gigs total debian is 12 gigs i think that just about all the big distros are that big
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http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vis ta/print.html
All you have to do is append print.html to the end.
Thanks a lot dude for the simple trick !!s ta/print.html
The link you gave didnt work though.
Here the right one.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vi
Why does yahoo do this
I tried going directly to the printer friendly version and was redirected to the standard version. Tom's Hardware seems to be checking to make sure that people are coming only from their site when they try to see the printer-friendly version. So if you're running into trouble, try manually changing index.html to print.html.
Not only is this story a repeat, but it is worth mentioning that the Tom's review is basically pictures of the OS with almost NO technical details on Vista. They even are incorrect on features of DirectX 10 in the review.
All these 'wonderful' reviews running around on Vista, and still none exist that talk about the OS itself, all the reviews are doing is throwing up some pictures of the desktop and talking about AERO.
For example have you yet seen a review that mentions key points of the new OS of things that changed, like kernel changes, new memory management, new process scheduling, how the Video Driver is moved up from kernel level to user level, but still getting kernel level performace or even anytyhing on the vector based composer that is behind the AERO or WPF?
Nope...
Until you see these types of reviews, all you are going to get is a taste of the freaking eye candy and nerds going, "Here is the control panel" (Picture)
"it has more than 37,800 files"
For comparison: my Mac (Mac OS X 10.4.6) has:
- about 78000 files in
/System
- about 100000 files in
/Library
- about 40000 files in
/usr
- about 65000 files in
/Developer
- about 110000 files in
/Applications (this includes third-party apps I installed)
The lesson you should learn from this is that the number of files is not really a meaningful indicator of the complexity of a system.Really, a 10GB install isn't that bad, considering that I can get a weenie 250GB drive for $80, and it doesn't even make a dent in the new 750GB drive.
Laptop users may have a valid whine, with low-end drives at 40GB, mid-range at 80GB or so, but I'd expect that a notebook install wouldn't take that much on a low-end product.
I'm not fond of the Microsoft Vista Ultimate Extreme De Luxe Ultra version that's a complete system-resources orgy that wants a few GB or so of RAM or a UI that makes my Geforce run at a good % of max for a good slice of time et cetera.
On the plus side, MS Vista will be shipping (eventually) with a copy of Duke Nukem Forever.
Every goddamn article in Tom's is stretched out over way too many pages, no exceptions. Until they change that policy, they're dead to me. I have better things to do with my time than banging on the Next link like an ADHD 6 year old in front of a whack-a-mole game.
I learned this from a post on another Tom's related link on /.
Just append print.html to end of the Tom's URL and get the one page print article.
I figure if the article is a dupe, might as well dupe any useful comments, right?
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vis ta/print.html
Someone in a previous Tom's Hardware thread pointed out that adding "print.html" to the end of any TH article will magically give you a ONE Page article.
Thank you fief (12961). It looks like you've learned a thing or two since getting that low UID .
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Lots of pictures but not a lot of text... If he removed the screenshots, he could have fit it all on one page! Of course some people *LOVE* screenshots. So, I guess you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Damn you, Tom!
There's essentially no text - it's just lots of pages of screen shots. (Well, up to page four or five anyway, I got bored and stopped at that point.)
Ditto for OS/X.
Not true at all. The default install for my G5 was well over 10 gigs on OSX 10.4.x.
Instead of restricting reporting dupes to subscribers, they could restrict it to those with good Karma. That way only the people that seem to add something to /. can report problems.
Windows isn't a generic OS anymore. You can't program your own devices. You have no control over what drivers are loaded. You can't delve into the inner chamber of ring 1 or 2. Vista means 'You can't get there from here'. Welcome to the world of centralized computing. A Mainframe on your desktop/laptop. Instead of being controled by IT, your computer is controlled by Microsoft.
Its not a personal computer if you don't have full control over it. Its a Microsoft approved appliance.
My two cents.
Enjoy,
It's just the normal noises in here.